Seducing a girl with a bf, messenger or face to face ?

[ZaCool]

Iam a college student, and ever since getting into college it was obvious that girls liked me a lot, some admitted it and told me i was very good looking, others showed through actions, stares and looks,even my male friends knew this ...

now heres the situation iam in right now, this girl who's cute (not super hot rhought or anything) has been showing interest in me for months, looks, eye contact, smiles ...etc , i decided a month and a half ago to message her, she was receptive and all, we had two conversations, then a day later she blocked me, 2 weeks after that she saw me on campus and said hi, unblocked me and sent a message telling me shes sorry she couldnt talk to me and we should meet ... i told her its cool and we should meet tomorrow after her class to which she agreed .

next day we messaged back and forth to meet, and during messaging her i saw a classamte (hot chick) and had a small chat with her, the other girl saw me and sent me a message telling me shes already on her way home but its cool cause i have plenty of other girls ... to which i lol'ed and told her shes just a classmate.... nevertheless we agreed to meet a few days after that and again she flaked on me and ran away and sent me a message with a smily face telling me meeting was harder than she thought ...

Here's the real issue though - a couple weeks ago while hanging out with some friends at a bar 2 after midnight, i saw her with a guy and it was obvious that he's her bf but he studies in another city 2 hours away .

i wanna give it another shot and try to bang her, iam not gonna take her seriously or date her long term but i wanna get whatever i can get from her , she still has me on fb and didnt remove me even after she saw me while with her bf ... iam planning on messaging her or talking to face without ever bringing up the bf thing and just continue whatever we had and maybe go out with her .. any ideas ?

 

[marmel75]

Stop worrying about anything else and just proceed as usual with isolating and escalating.

I swear guys are their own worst enemies with how much they over think every little detail.

 

[Alvafe]

feh new kid....

I would not waste time with her much, play around, go out with others girls, the very least she will be more interested in you if she sees you with other woman, plus doing this can make you find a girl you will like more who is single, then after all this you can try to do the old isolate and escalating on her, but please don't do this only on her

 

[dude99]

Iam a college student, and ever since getting into college it was obvious that girls liked me a lot, some admitted it and told me i was very good looking, others showed through actions, stares and looks,even my male friends knew this ...

now heres the situation iam in right now, this girl who's cute (not super hot rhought or anything) has been showing interest in me for months, looks, eye contact, smiles ...etc , i decided a month and a half ago to message her, she was receptive and all, we had two conversations, then a day later she blocked me, 2 weeks after that she saw me on campus and said hi, unblocked me and sent a message telling me shes sorry she couldnt talk to me and we should meet ... i told her its cool and we should meet tomorrow after her class to which she agreed .

next day we messaged back and forth to meet, and during messaging her i saw a classamte (hot chick) and had a small chat with her, the other girl saw me and sent me a message telling me shes already on her way home but its cool cause i have plenty of other girls ... to which i lol'ed and told her shes just a classmate.... nevertheless we agreed to meet a few days after that and again she flaked on me and ran away and sent me a message with a smily face telling me meeting was harder than she thought ...

Here's the real issue though - a couple weeks ago while hanging out with some friends at a bar 2 after midnight, i saw her with a guy and it was obvious that he's her bf but he studies in another city 2 hours away .

i wanna give it another shot and try to bang her, iam not gonna take her seriously or date her long term but i wanna get whatever i can get from her , she still has me on fb and didnt remove me even after she saw me while with her bf ... iam planning on messaging her or talking to face without ever bringing up the bf thing and just continue whatever we had and maybe go out with her .. any ideas ?

So she blocked you. Unblocked you. Agreed to meet you. Flaked on you and has a boyfriend.

Invest nothing. She wants another orbiter.
Go date other women.

 

[ZaCool]

my friend knows this girl and has known her for few years he tells me she must have some issues cause she is very weird and doesnt seem to be able to make up her mind ... iam talking to 2 other girls atm, one actually approached me first, and all is good ... thing is i wanna get whatever i want from this girl but again iam not looking to date her or make her my gf, my plan was to accidentally bump into her on campus and just throw "been a while" kind of thing, and if she brings up the fact that i saw her with her bf i will act like he doesnt exist and see how far i can get .

if i message her and shes in her comfortn zone it can be tricky and she may suddenly feel like toughening up and insulting me for messaging her so my plan is to do it face to face ... you raise some good points guys, maybe she does want an orbiter maybe more but iam not gonna invest anymore time or effort in her i will let luck play its role and just talk to her if i meet her again if i dont then it be it, if she ignores me ... well i have other opitions lol

 

[RangerMIke]

Low interest... she likes the attention she's getting... and the drama. Just go find another chick, this one is going to be way too much work.

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

I know the more aggressive crowd will disagree here, but if you know she's got a bf why are you trying to f*** her?

It may be old fashioned but there's supposed to be a bro code with this stuff. Would you want some Chad f***ing your GF at first opportunity? Trying to get her drunk, or lure her away? No. So why are you trying to do that to another man? D*ck behaviour.

It's different if a guy is beating the s*** out of his GF or something. But this is just a standard guy with a GF.

Doubly so if "so many" girls like you. You've got the pick of several, go get a single girl. Sticking your d*ck in a woman is not more important someone else's committed relationship with them.

For the record: if you were hitting on my GF at college and I found out, I'd come and give you a piece of my mind at least, a bloody good hiding at most. Expect that if the guy finds out.

 

[ohrein]

I know the more aggressive crowd will disagree here, but if you know she's got a bf why are you trying to f*** her?

It may be old fashioned but there's supposed to be a bro code with this stuff. Would you want some Chad f***ing your GF at first opportunity? Trying to get her drunk, or lure her away? No. So why are you trying to do that to another man? D*ck behaviour.

It's different if a guy is beating the s*** out of his GF or something. But this is just a standard guy with a GF.

Doubly so if "so many" girls like you. You've got the pick of several, go get a single girl. Sticking your d*ck in a woman is not more important someone else's committed relationship with them.

For the record: if you were hitting on my GF at college and I found out, I'd come and give you a piece of my mind at least, a bloody good hiding at most. Expect that if the guy finds out.

People have no integrity anymore. It's a shame. Living a dishonest life is poison to the self. It just takes some time to realize it.

 

[Spaz]

Going after a taken girl.

Seems like u hv some confidence issues.

After all there's plenty of available and single girls, why bother with taken or even married girls?

Personally I don't care if a girl is taken or not, nor do I care abt her bf/husband. I just care enough not to drag drama into my life. All men should aspire to not seek unnecessary drama.

 

[ZaCool]

Going after a taken girl.

Seems like u hv some confidence issues.

After all there's plenty of available and single girls, why bother with taken or even married girls?

Personally I don't care if a girl is taken or not, nor do I care abt her bf/husband. I just care enough not to drag drama into my life. All men should aspire to not seek unnecessary drama.

generalising much ? confidence issues ? you really think a guy who knows he can take any girl from her bf has confidence issues ?
the last 4 girls that i approached after they showed a lot of interest in me for months turned out taken, i didnt plan on making this happen or even pursued such girls i just saw a girl i like who liked me and i said hi, a week or two later i find out she has a bf so i drop her and stop pursuing her anymore, iam not really into drama iam very laid back and would rather i find myself a girl who isnt into drama either so i agree with you there .

i do have two girls iam talking to right now, one approached me and the other i approached so iam not exactly planning on running after a taken girl lol but if she at some point starts drifting towards me more and decides to make her intentions known iam not sure if will let such an opportunity pass , but again iam not gonna actively seek her, cause i will be honest i've had my share of approaching taken girls and everytime i back off cause iam not into drama, i would say easily 5/10 girls that show interest in me and are open to my approaches have bfs .

buttom line is i dont like ruining someones relationship but if i dont have to put any effort in it idk if will actually do it .

 

[Spaz]

generalising much ? confidence issues ? you really think a guy who knows he can take any girl from her bf has confidence issues ?
the last 4 girls that i approached after they showed a lot of interest in me for months turned out taken, i didnt plan on making this happen or even pursued such girls i just saw a girl i like who liked me and i said hi, a week or two later i find out she has a bf so i drop her and stop pursuing her anymore, iam not really into drama iam very laid back and would rather i find myself a girl who isnt into drama either so i agree with you there .

i do have two girls iam talking to right now, one approached me and the other i approached so iam not exactly planning on running after a taken girl lol but if she at some point starts drifting towards me more and decides to make her intentions known iam not sure if will let such an opportunity pass , but again iam not gonna actively seek her, cause i will be honest i've had my share of approaching taken girls and everytime i back off cause iam not into drama, i would say easily 5/10 girls that show interest in me and are open to my approaches have bfs .

buttom line is i dont like ruining someones relationship but if i dont have to put any effort in it idk if will actually do it .

Lots of married women and taken young girls r attracted to me.

I dismiss them. Not because they r not attractive. It's just part of my principles.

I desire less drama in my life. That's all.

Why did I hv these principles in the 1st place?

These women r basically unhappy and thus an easy lay. And also because I've been on the receiving end of a jealous boyfriend/husband.

And all these just boils down to confidence issues and also being lazy to game available single women.

That's the reason why I have been following this principle for the last 20 years. It's worked well and I still get hot women.

 

[ZaCool]

My problem is kinda simple but at the same time complicated, i have no shortage of girls showing interest in me, and alot young and old alike have complimented my looks and personality,my friends tell me iam a great guy and a catch, and in all honesty iam not perfect and far from it but i do put an effort into looking good, smelling good and acting good, iam not a creep nor abuse or use women and most importantly i have principles, i admit the last few weeks i got carried away but i will explain why ...

My relationship with women has been kinda tricky, as a highschooler i wasnt very mature or attractive but it was a phase that i grew out of, now i know that when i walk into a room all the women have their eyes on me, my friends thought i was being a ****, faking confidence or dreaming, util they had the opportunity to hang out with me around women and saw with their own eyes that i do get the exact amount of attention i tell them i do ... however so far i havent been lucky in the dating world, girls that sleep around and have sex with countless guys decide to leave that life behind and have something serious with me ...i reject them for obvious reasons, usually iam not looking for anything serious but they are (with me at least ... no matter how i show them iam not into that ) .

girls that are attractive, and get a lot of male attention also do show a lot of interest and when i do approach them they are more than happy talking to me but usually turn out taken, a year ago i talked to this girl for over a month, everyone kept telling me shes great, realy shy, reserved and a great gf material, turns out she was engaged and talking to me behind her bfs back .... i live in a not so big town, my college isnt particularly big either, and for over two years i havent met any hot girl who was single, iam not even exaggerating, its been a realy long time since i met an attractive girl with a decent personality who is also single and looking for a bf , such girls dont exist, such girls are either married, in long term relationships since highschool or change guys like we change car tires, yearly .

this doesnt mean i should be an ******* and get involved with a taken woman ... however I dont have many options here .

 

[Spaz]

There r available single girls everywhere.

Go into a small village u will find a few single girls.

Go into a church and there r available single girls there.

Go into a shopping mall and there r available single girls there.

Need i say more?

No excuses, no more reasoning. Just go out have a good time with single available girls. Game them. It's fair game and good practise for you.

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

i have no shortage of girls showing interest in me, and alot young and old alike have complimented my looks and personality,my friends tell me iam a great guy and a catch...girls that sleep around and have sex with countless guys decide to leave that life behind and have something serious with me ...i reject them for obvious reasons, usually iam not looking for anything serious but they are

Okay so first mistake here IMO. You shouldn't be rejecting these girls, you just have to be the man and control the parameters of the relationship.

Do you want sex? Well, if she likes you but wants to get serious, just have awesome sex with her and chill out, see where it goes! It's not a marriage contract, you can end things whenever. It's not dishonest to have sex with someone that wants an LTR, you don't have to sign a contract at the start stating EXACTLY what kind of relationship it's going to be forever. If it gets serious and LTR that just means more sex for you. If you don't want it to go that long, just be honest with her when you start having sex and say that you really like her but you want to take it easy.

Don't let what someone tells you they want pressure you into having a certain sort of relationship. It's up to you as a man to have the balls to shape where the relationship is going based on what you both want. You can always compromise too - give her more of a relationship vibe while still keeping it casual, if that's what you want. Then everyone's happy.

this doesnt mean i should be an ******* and get involved with a taken woman ... however I dont have many options here .

Dude you've got plenty of options. You're only kidding yourself that you don't have options because you want to f*** this girl and it makes it easier on your conscience to do the wrong thing for selfish reasons. People try to justify doing bad stuff all the time by kidding themselves that they have no other choice.

Your options:

Option 1: Don't have sex with a guy's GF just because she flirted with you one time. Go find one of the other bazillion girls that will be interested in you. This is the moral option and it's not even hard to do.

Option 2: Have sex with a guy's GF. Get 10 minutes of fun and f*** up someone else's relationship, violate the bro code and treat someone like you'd never want to be treated. This is the immoral option.

Option 3: Just chill and don't bother f***ing anyone, because you're not in some sort of death race to have sex. Instead just relax and let single hotties come to you (this will happen if you're as cool as your posts say).

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You seem like a decent guy who's desperate to listen to the little devil on his shoulder. You got no reason to be desperate. Be the good guy (i.e. the real man with cojones instead of the creep) and go find one of these other girls that likes you. It won't take much effort.

 

[ZaCool]

Okay so first mistake here IMO. You shouldn't be rejecting these girls, you just have to be the man and control the parameters of the relationship.

Do you want sex? Well, if she likes you but wants to get serious, just have awesome sex with her and chill out, see where it goes! It's not a marriage contract, you can end things whenever. It's not dishonest to have sex with someone that wants an LTR, you don't have to sign a contract at the start stating EXACTLY what kind of relationship it's going to be forever. If it gets serious and LTR that just means more sex for you. If you don't want it to go that long, just be honest with her when you start having sex and say that you really like her but you want to take it easy.

Don't let what someone tells you they want pressure you into having a certain sort of relationship. It's up to you as a man to have the balls to shape where the relationship is going based on what you both want. You can always compromise too - give her more of a relationship vibe while still keeping it casual, if that's what you want. Then everyone's happy.



Dude you've got plenty of options. You're only kidding yourself that you don't have options because you want to f*** this girl and it makes it easier on your conscience to do the wrong thing for selfish reasons. People try to justify doing bad stuff all the time by kidding themselves that they have no other choice.

Your options:

Option 1: Don't have sex with a guy's GF just because she flirted with you one time. Go find one of the other bazillion girls that will be interested in you. This is the moral option and it's not even hard to do.

Option 2: Have sex with a guy's GF. Get 10 minutes of fun and f*** up someone else's relationship, violate the bro code and treat someone like you'd never want to be treated. This is the immoral option.

Option 3: Just chill and don't bother f***ing anyone, because you're not in some sort of death race to have sex. Instead just relax and let single hotties come to you (this will happen if you're as cool as your posts say).

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You seem like a decent guy who's desperate to listen to the little devil on his shoulder. You got no reason to be desperate. Be the good guy (i.e. the real man with cojones instead of the creep) and go find one of these other girls that likes you. It won't take much effort.

What you said does makes sense, ever since i started dating i was actively avoiding taken girls, in fact i hate people who have a partner and still cheat i can never take such people seriously or date anyone like that, and i refuse to do it yourself, i was kinda down for some reason and tried to convince myself that its cool to get with such girls in all honesty i would rather not get involved with a taken girl .

I had this girl a couple weeks ago approach me ... well not exactly shes a friend of a friend and has been eyeing me for a while so when i went to say hi to my friend she started talking to me and walking next to me, we message sometimes and i kinda hinted at taking her out and her reaction was good, and as far as i know shes single, i will see where it goes with her .

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

i was kinda down for some reason and tried to convince myself that its cool to get with such girls in all honesty i would rather not get involved with a taken girl

Good lad. I'm of the opinion that a clear conscience is better than a quick shag with someone you don't even like that much. You also avoid setting yourself up with a girl who will just as soon as cheat on you as the guy she cheated with you on.

I had this girl a couple weeks ago approach me ... well not exactly shes a friend of a friend and has been eyeing me for a while so when i went to say hi to my friend she started talking to me and walking next to me, we message sometimes and i kinda hinted at taking her out and her reaction was good, and as far as i know shes single, i will see where it goes with her .

Go for it dude.