Secret Society Of Women - "I’ve had multiple affairs"

[azanon]

Discuss? Well, I'm not even sure the purpose of the OP. Married people have affairs all the time, both men and women. And everytime I've seen stats on it, the percentage of men that do it is always higher. My question back to the OP is, What about it?

Quite simply, to some people, being married doesn't necessarily imply/require exclusiveness.

 

[synergy1]

Men are generally bound by codes of honor, truth and logic.

Care to explain this in the context of the financial institutions on wall street who betted the ****ing house and swindled taxpayer money? Logic per greenspan dictated that a free market is infallible and needed no regulation. Than in 98 when LTCM needed private bailouts, the cat was out of the bag but they insisted that this logic was still infallible. Now 10 years later, we end up holding the bag.

Honor? Truth? hardly. These people acted out of (mutual) self interest and brought down the ****ing house. Their actions were predicated on lies and deceit. Sure, they might have been honor, but their honor was limited to high stakes shareholders, Washington Bureaucrats, or their own compensation.

Lets understand one thing that has been well known for a long time. When the stakes are high, people will cheat. No amount of honor, integrity, or logic will change this. The act of cheating is based upon the self interest of the individual involved which is more likely to be dictated by emotion than logic ( logic says this is wrong, but my emotion says....$$$$$)

**On a side note, I don't want this to veer in a political thread. What I said might have been inflammatory to that regard, but rather than play the predictable semantics game, it would be easier to look at the overall picture and understand that greed got us to where we are. **

Women have had an adverse effect on politics because they don't focus on content.

Based on what? Provide evidence that womens voting has had adverse effects on politics. Such an analysis would be very exhaustive and beyond the scope of this post, yet people seem content with these trite easy conclusions. A logical thinker would feel the need to dig deeper before answering it...so how are YOU thinking about it? Not logically I can see..

 

[Darth]

^^Obviously I've never done a study to back that up. Such a study would be fascinating. I don't have time right now.

Point taken, though. Don't jump to conclusions without supporting evidence.

Here's one more anecdote though:

My mom was called a couple years ago for a political survey. They asked her what she thought of a particular candidate. She only had one comment to make. Was it on a position? No. Her only comment involved the candidate's hair and how it was out of place, or didn't seem like it was combed right.

 

[synergy1]

^^Obviously I've never done a study to back that up. As such, I would never publicly say this. But I think it's true.

My mom was called a couple years ago for a political survey. They asked her what she thought of a particular candidate. Her only comment involved the candidate's hair and how it was out of place, or didn't seem like it was combed right.

Being uneducated shouldn't be used as a basis for drawing conclusions. If you asked me about a candidate i didn't know anything about, i'd make up some bull**** too.

I generally agree that women act more on emotions than men do, but men act on their own emotions at times as well. Back to the topic of this thread, I think that we over analyze women who cheat and chose to focus on them more than the ones who won't cheat. Of course the women who don't put out are also called out as prudes. However, posts like this one tend to focus too much on negative aspects of women, while other posts written by men about cheating etc are simply glossed over - exonerating men from the equation.

I tried posting a link to an article about a chick who shared this communities point of view. She even said that if women want equal rights, they have to step it up and start acting like it. Yet, the threads point was completely lost in folks arguing over a 700 dollar diner.

I guess all i am trying to say is we shouldn't be so negative on women all the time. Sure there are the crappy ones, but there are the good ones too. Life is much happier focusing on them and subsequently getting them. Women aren't perfect, but neither are guys. I am cool with that.

 

[TizZle]

Here's a lesson for you guys. Things i have learned in my philosophy class.
According to plato the soul is made up of:

Appetite(seeks to satisfy biological instinctive urges)
Spirit(self-assertive tendencies)
Reason(part that calculates, measures, decides)

In a well-balanced moral character, reason governs both appetite and spirit.

There are 5 character types:
Timarchic: Spirit Driven
Oligarchic: Appetite Driven
Philosopher King/Ruler: Reason Driven(temperate,courageous,wise,just,distinguishes between reality and appearance)
Democratic: Appetite/Spirit balanced, but aimless
Tyrannical: Possessed by master passion

Ideal Character according to plato is King/Ruler. All other types are imperfect. In Kings/Rulers no physical appetites or material desires enslave them.

So acting out of greed/lust at the sake of your honesty/loyalty(good morals) just means you are an imperfect character because you are appetite driven.

 

[Alle_Gory]

You are talking about a very small subset of people in VERY powerful positions. They are the exception to the general rule that men as a whole abide by logic and their word much more so than women.

In my life I have found this to happen on rare occasions. Honor is a learned trait same as intelligence and logic. To prove my point, tomorrow I want you to go outside and find an idiot to chat with. No matter how much logic you use, there's no way he could understand what you're saying.

As far as honor among women it does exist... kind of. When women stick up for each other. They don't know each other but will defend a fellow woman no matter how stupid the decision. I'm sure there's a whole lot of logic behind this as Rolo Tomassi frequently points out with his talking points on female social dynamics.

It's a different flavor of the men "fix things" (which is why we focus on issues) and women "feel things" (which is why they do NOT focus on issues).

Women try to fix things also. It's called "meddling" when they stick their noses in other people's business. While men deal with physical things, women prefer politics and relationships and try to "fix" those.

 

[Alle_Gory]

While I am unsure how you can believe that women use logic as often as men do as opposed to feelings, I will not argue with you about it. My experience has taught me countless times that they just do not do this.

My experience has taught me otherwise. Yes women are emotional, that I agree with. My argument is that men are just as emotional and all this logic and reasoning and honor is not something that is natural. I am arguing that it is a learned behavior passed from man to man.

I have NEVER known an everyday woman give any kind of opinion on how to fix any of the issues afflicting a Nation at any time.

Neither have I but I haven't really asked so I can't say either way. I can say that when dealing with guys that this is still a rare behaviour.

Women are emotional creatures, their values reflect it and their voting habits reflect it.

Yes. Just like all those white men who didn't want to vote for Obama not because of real thought out issue but because he's a "negro". That's not emotional to you?

 

[Alle_Gory]

I admire your passion on the subject, but it is clouding your reason.

I think my reason is doing pretty fine, but if you can find any evidence to back up your claims I will reconsider my position.

Let's look at some numbers. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find any studies directly on this so we're going to have to look at some related statistics and then assume.

I would say that religion is very emotional, so let's look at attendance ratios for men and women. Sports? Emotional but it's male dominated (attendance wise) for the most part. Except figure skating, women love that but there's not many sports they do like.

Besides religion, what else would you consider to be gender neutral and emotional or logical? Should fit into either category fairly clearly to compare easily.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Math and Science jobs?

Wouldn't be a fair comparison. But if I could get the stats on College and University attendance numbers for those careers and then compare them to the numbers of workers in those fields we'll see who cuts it and gets a job.

Going to dig up some info now.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Why do you think that would not be a fair comparison?

Because fields like mathematics are not very attractive to women, it carries the social stigma of "geek" and "loser" and we know that women buy into stupid things like what other people think. So if we look at how many women go in and how many women come out, if the numbers are the same then we can say that yes, women are just like men when it comes to sciences, at least for the few that make it through the grinder.

Unfortunately, I have found information that proves YOUR point, not mine.

https://womenandmath.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/proportions.jpg

The chart summarizes this information: http://ec.europa.eu/research/science-society/pdf/she_figures_2006_en.pdf

If we look at this chart we see that although more women get accepted into the sciences, they don't make it when it comes to the workplace by a massive margin. As the level of difficulty increases, the less women you will see in that field.

Therefore women can't cut it when it comes to pure logic, or there is something else that makes them unreliable. Maybe they just can't meet the demands on them when it comes to actual work.

There's still more to look into. That's only the situation in Europe which is more influenced by men. America, the world's shopping mall, will have different statistics. Looking for those.

 

[Midnight_Oil]

Is anyone else bothered by women having the right to vote but they don't have to sign up for the Selective Service? I don't see Feminists running in the streets demanding the responsibility of serving their country.

All the rights and none of the responsibilities.

 

[Crissco]

Because fields like mathematics are not very attractive to women, it carries the social stigma of "geek" and "loser" and we know that women buy into stupid things like what other people think. So if we look at how many women go in and how many women come out, if the numbers are the same then we can say that yes, women are just like men when it comes to sciences, at least for the few that make it through the grinder.

Unfortunately, I have found information that proves YOUR point, not mine.

https://womenandmath.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/proportions.jpg

The chart summarizes this information: http://ec.europa.eu/research/science-society/pdf/she_figures_2006_en.pdf

If we look at this chart we see that although more women get accepted into the sciences, they don't make it when it comes to the workplace by a massive margin. As the level of difficulty increases, the less women you will see in that field.

Therefore women can't cut it when it comes to pure logic, or there is something else that makes them unreliable. Maybe they just can't meet the demands on them when it comes to actual work.

There's still more to look into. That's only the situation in Europe which is more influenced by men. America, the world's shopping mall, will have different statistics. Looking for those.

Doing your work bro! This is coming out to be a good thread.

 

[Noodles]

Inadvertantly, you have mentioned in the above another reason why I think they are just not capable of voting intelligently. Their tendency towards groupthink. Don't get me wrong, men do this too, but not nearly to the extent that Women do.

I think this is observationally true. Women are often swayed by their peer group - if their friends like something, so do they. Hence women are so much more fashion concious then us.

However...we are equally as bad. We have tribal loyalty. You see it all the time in supporting a sporting team - a guy will support a team through thick and thin even through cold logic may tell him it's better for him (in terms of stress and reward) to change to a better team.

We do this in politics too - we wear it as a badge. 'I'm a conservative/republican' or 'I'm labour/democrat'. We often don't examine the policies and what it means - we simply vote for out team. How can you support a political party? Cold logic means you weigh up the policies of all the parties and vote for the one that supports the most important ones for you.

So men often vote for the people they 'support' and women often vote for the popular party. Neither is ideal.

This is also the reason that the average man is not as important when it comes to winning elections. We rarely change our loyalties (unless we feel we've been betrayed), so no one pays a lot of attention.

 

[Alle_Gory]

At least they thought about it to start with though.

That's a good point. From my experience (with logical women) they have been forced into the position of having to think for themselves instead of following the group think.

On the other hand I have met plenty of older gentlemen and guys my age who subscribe to the chick method of doing things. "Just do what your bros do, cause that's cool. Yeah whatever..." Not a care in the world and don't give a damn to learn.

 

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http://www.secretsocietyofwomen.com/secrets/marriage/forum/topic/ive-had-multiple-affairs/


Discuss...?

Meh..do we really care if some bird phucks around behind some random losers back? I know I can't.

http://cdn.imgfave.com/image_cache/1283018586836404.jpeg

 

[Alle_Gory]

Meh..do we really care if some bird phucks around behind some random losers back? I know I can't.

Most of your posts are saying you don't give a fvck, and you say things very well.

 

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Most of your posts are saying you don't give a fvck, and you say things very well.

Most of your posts are lots of words saying nothing, and you mental masturbate very well.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Most of your posts are lots of words saying nothing, and you mental masturbate very well.

You're like a teenage girl looking for attention. "Look at me not giving a fvck!! Look at me!!"

Keep posting how say you don't give a fvck. It's HILARIOUS.

 

[( . )( . )]

You're like a teenage girl looking for attention. "Look at me not giving a fvck!! Look at me!!"

Keep posting how say you don't give a fvck. It's HILARIOUS.

U mad?

 

[The College Jock]

Posting misc threads to sosuave? Lold. Phaggytime.