Scientists cure cancer

[Road Demon]

Are you guys smoking the chronic...Cure for cancer. I believe the Information was WAY oversimplified...DCA has been around for along time.

Sure the research is promising , but I'm with Whistler on this one...they have not even spoken about clincial trials. I 'll take a look at the publications.

In toxicocology their is the concept of species difference. IE different species(rats vs mice vs dogs vs primates) have different metabolisms, so what happens in say rats cannot be directly extropolated to humans.

Cancer is a disease of 'old age' as it takes time to develop a certain number of mutation for the cells to become transformed.' Because of that, many 'cancers' have unique mutation profiles. Last time I checked rats are short lived species, primates are not. Think R vs K selected species.

As far a Big Pharma, it takes millions to bring a drug to market that actually works. For every drug that works, 10,000 potentail agents did not work and were abandoned somewhere in the drug discovery pipeline for whatever the reason. In addition, last time I checked Pharma companies actually what to make some money for their stockholders...

~RD

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

One thing I have wondered about was hasnt many people in the Pharmaceutical company already died or lost loved ones from cancer already? I mean, these companies have been around for decades and cancer even longer. I would think many at the top of the Big Pharma companies have already died from cancer, it was inevitable.

So what did they do when they found out they had cancer? Did they treat themselves with the weak drugs they create or do they secretly go to alternative medicine who claim to already have a cure for cancer and the Pharmaceutical companies dont want you to know about? Also, if DCA has been around for a while, wouldnt the pharmaceutical companies alredy have decided to donate for human trials given that its almost certain people in that industry have already died from cancer?

I do agree with RD, I am skeptical about this. If its been out for so long, I would have expected it to already have been done with human trials by now. I would also expect there to be some bad side effects to it. It might stop cancer, but maybe it would create heart problems or other deadly side effects?

I usually go with the old saying "it its too good to be true, it probably is". That saying is often so damn true. But I do want to beleive its true, I hope there is a cure for cancer around the corner.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

Have you contributed millions of dollars to cancer research lately? If not, then according to your logic, your entire family should get cancer and die.

By the way guys, I recently heard about a new drug that makes people immortal! But due to the pharma and oil companies blocking research with the use of ninja assassins, the drug has been sabotaged!

Seriously though, this is the 100000th time I've heard of some "miracle cure" for cancer, AIDS, renewable energy, and everything else. I'll wait until I see absolute proof before believing the next snake oil line.

lol, the difference between me and those companies is:

1. my family is not rich, we couldnt afford to donate to research

2. Those Pharmaceutical companies are rich, and can afford to donate.

3. Those Pharmaceutical companies are held with the reputation that they are the ones who invent cures for disease and do "cure finding" research.

4. They know they have the money to donate, they also know that many people would expect them to donate to this kind of research due to their reputation, so intentionally not donating becuase they wont profit makes it clear they are scum, and deserve to die from cancer.

you have bad logic diplomatic lies.

 

[PRMoon]

In all likelyhood, DCA will not go to clinical trial for cancer treatment. It's been around too long for any drug company to put an exclusive patent on it and it's so dirt cheap that they'd never be able to recoupe the losses, which would be in the millions of dollars, that trials would cost. They have no reason to test it because there's no money in it for them at all. Healing humanity is not their primary concern, paying their stock holders is. If anything were to happen, it's likely they'd try to fabricate another version of DCA and then patent that treatment drug and charge a very high charge for the substitute. Maybe some canadien company MIGHT cough up the money for DCA testing or a charitable organization but again we're talking about alot of money and it has to come from some where. As it stands most of the caritable money is directed towards groups who are already established with cancer treatment, which kinda puts the whole thing back to square one.

It's a tough pill to swallow but again dems the brakes.

 

[diplomatic_lies]

lol, the difference between me and those companies is:

1. my family is not rich, we couldnt afford to donate to research

Funny, you can afford to waste money on beer, clubbing, internet, and other luxuries. You're actually quite rich compared with 90% of the world.

2. Those Pharmaceutical companies are rich, and can afford to donate.

So are you. I'm sure you can afford a $1000 donation. Just go without beer for a year.

3. Those Pharmaceutical companies are held with the reputation that they are the ones who invent cures for disease and do "cure finding" research.

Wouldn't a company get ENORMOUS profit from discovering the cure to cancer? Think about it this way. It would be more profitable to sell a "cancer cure pill" to the MILLIONS of babies born each year, than to sell cancer treatment to the few thousand cancer sufferers.

you have bad logic diplomatic lies.

You're the one who wants to kill corporate employees because their company doesn't want to donate millions of dollars to research that has a 0.5% chance of suceeding. You've got some interesting logic there, Jim Jones.

 

[Jariel]

I'm sceptical for a lot of reasons.

For one, it sounds like a potential scam to get donations.

Secondly, it could be that there is no real proof behind this. I mean, to me it doesn't sound like they have actually tried it on humans and cured a case of cancer at all. It sounds like this is all theory at the moment. Too many scientists jump the gun these days and we've already been promised 100s of cures for cancer before now.

Alternatively, it is indeed possible that the government wouldn't want a cure, simply because cancer acts as a effective form of population control.

Please excuse my scepticism. I seriously hope and pray that there is some substance to this. I have lost a number of family members and friends to cancer, I stand to lose more and I am personally at a high risk due to genetics.

 

[PRMoon]

The rats that were tested were intentionlly infected with human cancer cells and the cancer cells died with the tumors shrunken significantly but I'm telling you, it'll never happen. There's no way any drug company will spend there money on R&D on a drug that has no potential to be patented, especially one as cheap as DCA. Lets say Merck spent millions of dollars and found that infact DCA is the wonder drug that everybody speculates it is. After they've sunk all that money into it they're looking at neglegable profits and since they don't have a patent, there's nothing stoping phizer or some other company from making and identical drug and selling it for a comparable or cheaper rate, giving them pure prophit. "Thanks so much for doing the multi million dollar foot work for us...suckers!!" now at ANY rate they sell it at (which would be presumably one to undercut the company that did the testing) is green for them.

It's like a stand off and nobody's going to shake on it. It's just not going to happen.

 

[Deep Dish]

Let's see here. DCA causes liver cancer in lab rats and—ahem—clinical trials, which by the way do exist, have shown mixed results, although patients notably still die.

Thanks to CNN, here is the word from the American Cancer Society:
"DCA: Cancer Breakthrough or Urban Legend?"

God, how do conspiracy theorists annoy me.

 

[spesmilitis]

lets digg and reddit it!!!!!!

I don't have digg or reddit accounts, so someone else do it.

 

[Vincent]

The cure for cancer is mostly funded by universities (hence why this guy happens to be at a university). If they really did find a cure it would be spread around hospitals like wild fire. The drug companies do not run medicine.

 

[Flabbergasped?]

Polio was a pretty grimy disease, and then one vaccine was discovered for it and its extremely rare now. Same with smallpox and plague. The violence of a disease has nothing to do with whether there is a direct cure for it.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case. Granted, pharmaceuticals are evil, but there's been many "miracle cures" before, so it isn't surprising for pharmaceuticals to be reluctant. In any case, most of the primary killers of humans (AIDS, Cancer, heart disease in the US) can be prevented or treated decently well. It's a matter of lifestyle and exhorbitant costs.

 

[bbestar]

Timothy 6:10 (King James Version):

For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

DevanE, i understand where you coming from, but when you research people like david icke and what they have found. You will begin to understand how depraved they are, their minds are so warped that they live in a entirely different reality where human life means nothing to them and will stop at nothing for your deprivation of your life.

Read up on Kevin Truedeau book, its a real eye opener
http://www.naturalcures.com/freebook.aspx or goto barnes and noble