Saw a lady get mugged...

[crowes22]

I never said I would or would not help out. It all depends on the situation. I thought it was funny how you referenced the media in your post. The media will report only what helps thier bs agenda. They protect and destroy people, they're as corrupt as the UN. I certainly would not count on those idiots to get my story out.

Another thing, people easily say they would tackle the dude and kick his ass for the woman. This is easy to say. People don't know the facts. Actually being in the situation makes a HUGE difference. HUGE. I'm not saying you are full of it or wouldn't have stopped him, but I prefer not to make predictions on what I'd do in these situations b/c in America, the criminal has all the rights, the victims have none.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by SELF-MASTERY
Did you live in FULTON County???? It is far from liberal where I live.... 2 of the 3 biggest counties in GA are fulton and dekalb, both are very liberal. A guy was arrested for making a citizens arrest in fulton about 2 yrs ago. There gos ur conservatice GA/ media wont allow it arguement. The APD PR guy said you can not use force in a citizens arrest, they have to willingly comply (At the time i was angry). And your damn right im never going to put my life on the line for a stranger, i might call a cop or something, nor would I ever count on the rational thinking of the media or my fellow man.

I'm familiar with both counties...and I lived just outside Atlanta. I've lived in many different states and I'm telling you that GA is a conservative state, even in Atlanta. Around Atlanta may be less conservative than the rest of the state, but it's still conservative compared to a lot of the rest of the country.

 

[diablo]

Originally posted by crowes22
the criminal has all the rights, the victims have none.

I find the contradiction amusing. If the purse snatcher did in fact sue you, then you would be the criminal and him the victim (technically speaking). Therefore according to you, he would have no rights and you would have them all.

 

[crowes22]

Originally posted by diablo
I find the contradiction amusing. If the purse snatcher did in fact sue you, then you would be the criminal and him the victim (technically speaking). Therefore according to you, he would have no rights and you would have them all.

Well, if the moron hadn't robbed somebody neither of us would be in the situation, would we? That's assuming I got involved. All the more reason for me NOT to get involved.

There are stories of people having to endure all sorts of legal problems for shooting people that broke into their home. In my mind, if he breaks in my house, and I have to shoot, I KILL him, not wound him and leave him alive for some ambulance chasing attorney to talk him into suing me and dragging me through the courts ruining my reputation and financial well being, and possible prison. Which I've heard of this happening.

The contradiction you cite is an addage, not a fact. But there are plenty of cases where it does seem that the crook gets all the perks/breaks and the innocent victim gets a slap in the face. Hell look at all the benefits felons get in prison, off of taxpayer money, it's insane. And when I spoke of the HUGE difference I was referring to the reality of the situation, not the contradiction you cite. Reality being, "If some dude tried to mug me, I'd kick in the balls, whip his ass, yaya.

But if he really gets mugged, he's digging in every pocket, saying "I think I have some more here".

Look down the end of a gun from a stranger once and your perspective may change, at least in reality, that is.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by crowes22
Well, if the moron hadn't robbed somebody neither of us would be in the situation, would we? That's assuming I got involved. All the more reason for me NOT to get involved.

There are stories of people having to endure all sorts of legal problems for shooting people that broke into their home. In my mind, if he breaks in my house, and I have to shoot, I KILL him, not wound him and leave him alive for some ambulance chasing attorney to talk him into suing me and dragging me through the courts ruining my reputation and financial well being, and possible prison. Which I've heard of this happening.

crowes, as long as the burglar is shot inside the home and not when he is running away you have every right to shoot. If you shoot and he gets out the door...drag him back inside.

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
I'm familiar with both counties...and I lived just outside Atlanta. I've lived in many different states and I'm telling you that GA is a conservative state, even in Atlanta. Around Atlanta may be less conservative than the rest of the state, but it's still conservative compared to a lot of the rest of the country.

I dont think your as familiar with metropolitan Atlanta as you think. Fulton and Dekalb are both ultra liberal, not as liberal as California, but liberal enough to arrest a do-gooder its already happened. Georgias a RED state, but fulton and dekalb are NOT representative of my states REDNECK southern baptist ways.

3 biggest counties

fulton/ dekalb---liberal

cobb-- mostly wall street republican, at least east cobb is.....West cobb, home of the newly discriminated white male...

you would be the criminal and him the victim (technically speaking)

I have to be an ass... Technically, Your not considered a criminal in civil cases. Criminal are only prosecuted under the states penal code.... You can't be sent to jail based on the outcome of a civil case. Different burden of proof and everything...

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by SELF-MASTERY
I dont think your as familiar with metropolitan Atlanta as you think. Fulton and Dekalb are both ultra liberal, not as liberal as California, but liberal enough to arrest a do-gooder its already happened. Georgias a RED state, but fulton and dekalb are NOT representative of my states REDNECK southern baptist ways.

3 biggest counties

fulton/ dekalb---liberal

cobb-- mostly wall street republican, at least east cobb is.....West cobb, home of the newly discriminated white male...



I have to be an ass... Technically, Your not considered a criminal in civil cases. Criminal are only prosecuted under the states penal code.... You can't be sent to jail based on the outcome of a civil case. Different burden of proof and everything...

I lived in Duluth and Norcross...very close to Atlanta. Gotta love the bumper to bumper 85 mph traffic around Spaghetti Junction.

I have searched online for Georgia cases where someone has been either tried criminally or sued for using force to stop a crime and I can't find even on such case. When I lived in the outskirts of Atlanta I didn't meet a single liberal person at all. I met a ton of conservatives, though. I'm going on what I saw with my own eyes.

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

Duluth and Norcross aren't in fulton or dekalb. The rules of outskirts of atlanta do not apply fo' the city.