savin it for marriage
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Jukeboxhero
Senior Don Juan
Well, I highly doubt anyone besides you and me are Christians here. So more than likely they won't reply or advise you to forget about saving it for marriage. I think you should do what feels right. I'm glad to know I'm the only one who is trying to save it for marriage or at least a girl whom I'm really sure I want to be with as opposed to trying to get laid as much and as soon as possible.
However, this site is great for advice on improving yourself in general, as well as your social skills. So whatever you choose to do you can get a lot of useful information from this site.
However, this site is great for advice on improving yourself in general, as well as your social skills. So whatever you choose to do you can get a lot of useful information from this site.
B-Lemond
Master Don Juan
saving what? :crackup:
syncmaster
Master Don Juan
I'm christian/catholic - just thought i'd drop that in... do what you think is best. I'm not a virgin if that does anything ....
im christiian
jsut not hardcore, i never been to church willingly sicne primarmy school
but still sort of believe in god and stuff, but yeah,
i rekcon theres nothign wrong with sex, abortion or divorce
though i just dont really like the idea of divorce
jsut not hardcore, i never been to church willingly sicne primarmy school
but still sort of believe in god and stuff, but yeah,
i rekcon theres nothign wrong with sex, abortion or divorce
though i just dont really like the idea of divorce
Keeper
Master Don Juan
I still believe being able to get all the ***** you want, yet rejecting it all so you can save for your 'one true partner' (overdone), is a beautiful thing. I sure as hell can't say no that easily. 
Go with what you believe in. If your church says sex before marriage is bad, then don't do it. :-/ Don't ask us about religion, as your pastor or priest or minister.
Go with what you believe in. If your church says sex before marriage is bad, then don't do it. :-/ Don't ask us about religion, as your pastor or priest or minister.
MetalFortress
Master Don Juan
I don't know why you even have to ask, requested. Do it. I am as well.
Alphathree
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Dude, don't advertise that you want to abstain from sex, yet do it anyway. You'll be uber confident because you won't "need" anything from women.
(Incidentally this is a good attitude to have even if you do want sex.)
I personally LOVE to make out with women. It sounds dorky, but I have made out with so many women without really wanting sex. Kissing is so intimate. Heh, I sound like a woman now...
(Incidentally this is a good attitude to have even if you do want sex.)
I personally LOVE to make out with women. It sounds dorky, but I have made out with so many women without really wanting sex. Kissing is so intimate. Heh, I sound like a woman now...
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
As odd as this is going to sound, I totally respect a guy who can actually live up to his convictions - so few do, which of course makes those convictions suspect. The problem is that more often than not, nature conspires against those convictions and I don't respect a guy any less for giving into nature. God made us imperfect and it's this imperfection that makes us human. We're going to desire to do what nature (and God) intend us to do, whether you act on these desires or not isn't the issue, it's that you do desire them that frustrates men of conviction.
Jesus said "I tell you that if you look upon a woman with lust in your heart, you have committed adultery", this scripture alone is enough to damn every male on planet earth from puberty to old age. I commit this sin on a daily basis because it's hardwired into our bio-psychological chemestry. I don't think Jesus meant to illustrate how screwed men are in this life so much as that there's really nothing we can do to avoid sin on our own accord.
If you are in fact sincere in this conviction I'd have to stress that what is offered to the men on this site in the most positive refelctions of what a man should be is far more important to someone such as yourself than to guys how don't share your outlook on sex. I say this because the very requirements of saving yourself until marriage don't allow you the luxury of being wrong in your assessment of women that having multiple partners will teach you by experience. You have to know your worth by learning it from the experiences of others rather than doing for yourself. You have to adopt the idea of being the PRIZE and understanding what women truly want (not what they say they want) in a man without the benefit of learning this first hand. You also have the hinderance of achieving the goals and ambitions you have either by accepting the responsibilities of marriage and driving towards them or remaining celibate while you do so. Sex is a strong impulse for the gender with the most testosterone and it becomes far too easy to compromise your personal identity and life's ambitions to accomodate the ONLY way to have sex - in your case marriage being the only option. Likewise it's far too easy to settle for a woman without the maturity to handle the reponsibilities, liabilities and accountabilities of marriage in ordrer to plot the shortest distance between your desire and her intimacy - again, marriage.
It is far more important to put your own self-interest ahead of women and everything else if this is your conviction, because you stand to lose so much, without the benefit of experience. I know at some point of reading this you'll say to yourself, "I'll just trust in God to bring me the best wife." And while that's a noble, faithful consideration, I'm sure you wouldn't say "I'll just trust in God to keep the cars away from me while I go play on the freeway." There is still an aspect of making the best decision for your life.
Personally I think there is far too little positive masculinity emphasized in any denomination of the church today. Women have learned from countless generations that the next best means of controlling men besides sex is their own self-righteous religious virtues. Beware this dynamic, it's exactly why most churches are as feminized and retain such a high concentration of AFCs as they do. I have yet to encounter the church guy who isn't a complete AFC and supplicates to his wife because she's controlled the sex for the entirety of their marriage.
Better to live under the corner of a house than share it with a quarrelsome wife.
Jesus said "I tell you that if you look upon a woman with lust in your heart, you have committed adultery", this scripture alone is enough to damn every male on planet earth from puberty to old age. I commit this sin on a daily basis because it's hardwired into our bio-psychological chemestry. I don't think Jesus meant to illustrate how screwed men are in this life so much as that there's really nothing we can do to avoid sin on our own accord.
If you are in fact sincere in this conviction I'd have to stress that what is offered to the men on this site in the most positive refelctions of what a man should be is far more important to someone such as yourself than to guys how don't share your outlook on sex. I say this because the very requirements of saving yourself until marriage don't allow you the luxury of being wrong in your assessment of women that having multiple partners will teach you by experience. You have to know your worth by learning it from the experiences of others rather than doing for yourself. You have to adopt the idea of being the PRIZE and understanding what women truly want (not what they say they want) in a man without the benefit of learning this first hand. You also have the hinderance of achieving the goals and ambitions you have either by accepting the responsibilities of marriage and driving towards them or remaining celibate while you do so. Sex is a strong impulse for the gender with the most testosterone and it becomes far too easy to compromise your personal identity and life's ambitions to accomodate the ONLY way to have sex - in your case marriage being the only option. Likewise it's far too easy to settle for a woman without the maturity to handle the reponsibilities, liabilities and accountabilities of marriage in ordrer to plot the shortest distance between your desire and her intimacy - again, marriage.
It is far more important to put your own self-interest ahead of women and everything else if this is your conviction, because you stand to lose so much, without the benefit of experience. I know at some point of reading this you'll say to yourself, "I'll just trust in God to bring me the best wife." And while that's a noble, faithful consideration, I'm sure you wouldn't say "I'll just trust in God to keep the cars away from me while I go play on the freeway." There is still an aspect of making the best decision for your life.
Personally I think there is far too little positive masculinity emphasized in any denomination of the church today. Women have learned from countless generations that the next best means of controlling men besides sex is their own self-righteous religious virtues. Beware this dynamic, it's exactly why most churches are as feminized and retain such a high concentration of AFCs as they do. I have yet to encounter the church guy who isn't a complete AFC and supplicates to his wife because she's controlled the sex for the entirety of their marriage.
Better to live under the corner of a house than share it with a quarrelsome wife.
WORKEROUTER
Master Don Juan
That would really suck.
MetalFortress
Master Don Juan
Well, I don't believe that my 1986 Ford Ranger is made by Ford. I believe that Chevrolet made it. The Bible expressly forbids fornication, and it uses the word "fornication" too. Fornication is defined as extramarital sex.
So pimp its scary
Master Don Juan
Religion is merely a form of social control.
If you wish to repress your nature, then by all means save it for some catholic girl that you met in your church...
if you wish to follow nature, then your going to have to abandon your ideas of saving yourself for marriage.
Then again, I am a corruptor of catholicism, and have changed at least 3 girls from saving themselves for marriage.
If you wish to repress your nature, then by all means save it for some catholic girl that you met in your church...
if you wish to follow nature, then your going to have to abandon your ideas of saving yourself for marriage.
Then again, I am a corruptor of catholicism, and have changed at least 3 girls from saving themselves for marriage.
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
allknowledgenoxp
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If you really are a Christian, you will not have sex outside of marriage, because the Bible clearly states that it is wrong... check out Ephesians 5:5.
no sex before marriage is just as arbitrary as various religious laws about eating pigs or cows.
they're just "best practices" from back in the day that were made sinful as a means of social control...
supposedly we are supposed to be made in god's image... are you a giant d1ckhead? would you make people burn in hell for freakin having sex? come on, i promise you if there's a god he's not that big of a d1ck. I doubt he cares what you do as long as you're a nice guy...(but not an AFC nice guy )
they're just "best practices" from back in the day that were made sinful as a means of social control...
supposedly we are supposed to be made in god's image... are you a giant d1ckhead? would you make people burn in hell for freakin having sex? come on, i promise you if there's a god he's not that big of a d1ck. I doubt he cares what you do as long as you're a nice guy...(but not an AFC nice guy
)you can be a christian and still think the bible is made up and stupid.
p.s.
Proverbs
23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
real christians beat their children with rods. Disfigurement is ok! He'll thank you for it in heaven...
Iamnotacrook
Senior Don Juan
You are awesome.
Skydiver43127
Senior Don Juan
I've always wondered what the bible has to say about masturbation... I mean, I doubth most christians REALLY save it for marriage
