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I have been thinking about this BB... feminism is not so much anti-male as it is anti-love.

That statement is easy to tear apart on the surface but I'm gonna get into this in some detail sooner or later.
 

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backbreaker said:
i pretty much don't agree with anything yous stated
Of course you didn't, he portrayed white heterosexual men in a positive light. Hell even my ingrained indoctrination knee jerk reaction to refute anything positive said about white males flinched for a second "wtf did he just suggest white genes should be conserved and prosper? sh!t we don't do that do we?" and I'm not even black.

backbreaker said:
I will say this.. that i do believe that America's biggest problem is the demise of the nuclear family.
Ah so it was just that one yucky part you disagreed with. BB's cleverly crafted subtle racism shines through again.


Excellent post LiveFree but unfortunately I think Howiestern nailed it, you can only live feminist cancer free over there for so long, it's on it's way I fear. Whether or not Chinese men have more intestinal fortitude than Western and Japanese men to stave off the threat is yet to be seen. On the bright side at least they have witnessed the heights of raw phaggotry among Western men to know this is where they are headed if it's not cut out like a tumour earlier on. I'm am happy for you though, enjoy it while it lasts my friend.
 

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you know what i hated most about being raised by a single parent.. my dad was around but i didn't live with him. i saw him 2-3 times a week if not more but i lived with my mom.

anyway, it wasn't lack of money or support from my dad. it wasn't not having my dad around he was around enough, it wasn't even the lack of attention, i mean my mother is like me we are introverted people but if i wnated to talk to her i could...

every day i would get home from basketball practice about what..5pm.. and my mom worked across the state so she would get home usually sometime between 7and 8:30pm and the entire 2 hours i hated wating for her beucse it was like, i can't really explain it.. just impending doom. it didnt' matter how good of a day i had, it didn't matter what my report card looked like, it didn't matter if i got a new job or anything.. she was going gto find something to ***** at me about for the simple fact that she was ****ing tired. she was irritable and she'd take it out on me, for bieng there. there's no man to come home to and "take the edge off" so to speak. to give her a back massage, ask how her day was, to make sure dinner is ready... not saying he should be doing all that but just saying, one person can't do all this.

that's why i'm such a neat freak now.. every day i would go through the house and make sure she couldn't possibly find something to ***** about , but sure enough she'd find something. there better not be a butter knife in the sink, don't ask me to ****ing cook lol, your homework better be done, your TV better not be u too loud. she was just so damn irritable. yeah she provided. we had a kick ass house. friends loved coming to our housewe lived in the good part of town and had the jacuzzi and the 55' screen TV and marble floors.. but every ****ing day and i mean EVERY day, she'd just ***** and ***** and *****.

I see out out of my wife single friends with kids it's not just my mom..; **** you work 9 ****ing hours a day and come home to a kid you'd be irritable too and there is no one else in the house to help out.

anyway my point is, it lowers self esteem. it lowered mine. it took me going out in the real world and doing something to raise my self esteem to get over it. i see it out of my wife's gay son who just turned 12 or 13 friday he treis to do right but she comes hom and just *****es him otu everyday and i want to say look woman **** he's ****ing 12 lol. he's going to be 12. she makes him go to bed like at 8:30 for no other reason than she doesn't want to deal wtih him.

that's not ****ing parenting. man raising a child is hard as ****. they need a lot of attention and youc an't do this **** alone. it's not supposed to work that way
 

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Before anyone sells his house and buys a one-way ticket to Shanghai, do a little ground work first. Go to San Francisco and have a good look-see. Not in the financial district at rush hour. Over in Sunset. Get an eyeful of what LiveFreeX is selling.

Chinese may not be the most butt-ugly women in the world. But they are flat-chested, flat-assed, and have awkwardly short calves. If you can't get used to the flat face, don't worry -- it'll quickly change. Chinese age very badly even compared to white women.

I can understand wanting to leave the problems of America. But you'd have to have a real bad case of yellow fever to detest the great variety of eye candy in any Western city with a population of a million or more.

Why China? On the Western side of Asia, women have yellowish skin too. Just not as yellow as in the Far East. If you're white, your children are going to look a lot more like both the mother and the father than with a non-Caucasian wife. Also, one out of every 20 or so -- including skinny ones -- have ridiculously huge breasts. See for yourself: go to the welfare office and check out the refugees.

Colombia and Venezuela have much prettier women than China. Spanish is much easier to learn than Chinese or Arabic or Farsi. It's also much easier for your woman to learn English. Latin America has a thoroughly Western culture. We laugh at the same jokes.

If you have to pick the Far East, why not Manila? Filipinas are overwhelmingly Catholic, divorce is illegal, and adultery is punished by prison (yes for women too). The country used to be part of the US, their government is modeled after the US, most of them learn at least some English in school, many of them have family in the US and/or in US armed forces, their economy is floated by remittances, and marrying an American is like winning a beauty contest for them. You can actually settle there and be accepted as an ex-pat without people pointing and yelling "FOREIGNER!! FOREIGNER!!" as they do in China.

Oh yeah. BB, I'm not entirely unsympathetic to your situation. Just that it looks bad for you that, as has been said, you're selling yourself as alpha when you married an older woman and you're raising another man's kid. Worse still, after you showed up, he's gone from just talking like someone's trying to recruit him to homosexuality, to you now saying outright he's "my wife's gay son." It's getting more and more difficult for men on this forum to escape the conclusion that it's more than just coincidence -- that there's some cause from your behavior that's associated with the effects you narrate to us.
 

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I boost Asia because I'm living here and can provide real help to anyone who comes this way. I can't do that in Colombia or Brazil because I'm not living there. I can only give you an account of what I see around me and an offer of help from where I'm standing. I've been to many places around the globe and I'll say you are right when you promote the Php, South America too... yeah those are some nice places to find girls. I'm coming from the standpoint of marrying a 'family model' not a hot xyz feminine type. They are pumping them out like crazy over here. Its possible that feminism may take over the PRC at some point in the future but for right now there is a great window of opportunity to scoop up a good girl. Eventually things will change and somewhere else may become the focus. I'm not promoting China, just the women that live here, big difference.

For instance, I promoted Brazil for a long time because I was down there and things were going really well, this was during the boom. I went back a few years ago and things had changed completely as had the women's attitudes. That said, I don't think EVERY attitude changes with feminism just the ones in the blast zone. I know the old Chinese girls haven't really been affected by the ideals of the new ones and outright reject a lot of the stuff going on in the big cities. You can still find great girls out in the countryside to the tune of 100's of millions. Right now the PRC is booming and it'll stay this way for probably another 10 to 40 years. The old attitudes are still present in the 3rd tier cities and country-side villages and its pretty easy to meet the girls from those places as they flood into the big cities to look for work. I met one within my first week of getting to China.

Chinese women do age like other women, but they age a lot better if the guy they are with actually cares about how they look. Chinese marriage and relationships almost seem robotic and the men are definitely spoiled by the overall femininity of girls here. For instance the typical dress code in China for ALL women is pantyhose + shorts/pantyhose + dress. Rarely will you see a girl wearing jeans unless shes cold. That said, I was hit hard by yellow fever and it changed my whole perspective on women... couldn't even look at a white woman now, its just not the same, something about the eyes. China is a land of 7 and 8 clones, you are probably not going to find 9s or 10s here because the girls would rather be 'cute' than 'hot'. China is not an oversexed country in the way that Brazil or North America has become. Here girls feel pressure not to hold hands in public or show displays of affection. My girl still refuses to kiss or touch in public, its just not done and is viewed as being lewd and slutty. You have to figure out what you really want out of a girl: hot and sexy with all that comes along with it or cute and reserved. As a sidenote: I have an american friend here who goes AFC on his wife every night, he is 60 something and says so many sweet words to her, he'd make the Gingerbread man sick. Yet even with all his kissy face crap, his wife still treats him like gold and they get along very well. They have been together for about 15 years here and are the cheapest people I know. All of the guys here with wives will all attest to this, you can marry here and be quite happy. The women will follow your lead. If you cheat, they'll cheat, if you take the moral high ground, so will they. You are the leader.

Anyway it is a good time for anyone who wants to get married to come over and take their share of the women folk. They can always bring them back to America or wherever it is... there is also alot of job availability here if you don't mind working as an English teacher or if you just want to live on your own without working, you can do it on 500 bucks a month.

Do a bit of research before hand. I whole heartedly recommend coming here and seeing it for yourself, if nothing else you can go home reassured that all the world's women are not as horrible as the North American models. You can always have China as a back up plan... and for those guys not getting laid on the forum, they can likely come here, date lots of girls and find one to marry and settle down with quite easily. Chinese girls...the ones from the middle and lower class, tend to have much lower expectations of a relationship. Most are happy with food/water and a roof of any kind over their head. Mine lived in dirt poor poverty so if I take her home to a trailer park, she'll think she'd won the lottery. The advantages of dating inside the 3rd world are huge and I don't think most men can completely grasp what I'm saying without seeing it first hand. Anyway, my door is always open for those that venture out here.

I've made mention in this forum before about the cost of my marriage/wedding. 12 rmb... its about 2 bucks. My wife was the biggest supporter of us keeping and putting our money towards a house and not wasting it on a stupid one day ceremony. I'll likely spend the extra cash that I would have spent on the ceremony on instead buying some land at home and putting down a mobile home. She is really excited about possibly making a farm at home like the one she was raised on here.

I'm not trying to sell you a product or promote a business idea, I'm just posting in hopes of networking with a few new friends that are on their way out here. I have a decent job and manage to bank a good amount of money, I have a plan for the future and I have no debt. I feel I've got my head screwed on pretty straight here, so I'm not asking for anything from the forum people or have some sort of ulterior motive, I would just like to see more people happy. I know from being dateless in North America, throughout my early twenties, that it sucks doing all these approaches and learning all this game to still have to be on your toes at every second. There is a massive amount of energy a guy has to spend on dating in North America, its not as effortless as it should be even with PUA material backing you AND most North American girls are low quality ungreatful b1tches that can never truly understand the amount of hard work you and time you have to sink into sosuave just to meet and date them.
It should get easier, not harder right? Well here its super easy, especially if you apply the principles of sosuave and whats more, the charm and persistence pays off and is truly appreciated over here. There is very little in the way of romance in China and its quite a breath of fresh air to a girl here as opposed to a mandatory ritual in the West.

They will thank you for it and want to keep you, isn't that a better reward than getting a one night bang?
 
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LiveFreeX said:
For instance, I promoted Brazil for a long time because I was down there and things were going really well, this was during the boom. I went back a few years ago and things had changed completely as had the women's attitudes.
Yeah, it shocked me when Mexican and Central American women changed from baby machines to feminists in the 1980s.

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Anyway it is a good time for anyone who wants to get married to come over and take their share of the women folk. They can always bring them back to America or wherever it is... there is also alot of job availability here if you don't mind working as an English teacher or if you just want to live on your own without working, you can do it on 500 bucks a month.
It's just disgusting that you have to have a Ph.D. to teach English at many community colleges here. To teach high school, you have to get a credential, which is usually not part of the BA and requires additional graduate schooling.

I'm wondering how much college is needed to teach English abroad.

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I'm not trying to sell you a product or promote a business idea, I'm just posting in hopes of networking with a few new friends that are on their way out here. I have a decent job and manage to bank a good amount of money, I have a plan for the future and I have no debt. I feel I've got my head screwed on pretty straight here, so I'm not asking for anything from the forum people or have some sort of ulterior motive, I would just like to see more people happy.
I didn't mean to imply that you have any ulterior motive.

What I mean is that women in the Far East tend to be two cup sizes less buxom and substantially less muscular (butt and thighs) than the rest of the world. On my rating scale, that alone knocks them down 3 or more HB points.

As far as the eyes go, many Chinese have "big eyes" (almond shaped) instead of the much narrower eyes that are more common in, say, Japan. Many Filipinas and South Asians have the epicanthal half-fold, which gives larger eyes than the full fold.
 

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PS -- OP, I would never trust the chinese government's model of family...someday they're going to run the world and force all of us (including in the USA after our economy is sold out to them) to submit to the One Child Only Law.
This has since been changed to a two child policy.

I'm wondering how much college is needed to teach English abroad.
Not much.
 
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