"Sarging" is For LOSERS

chickenlegs03

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Sarging, or approaching lots of women just because they are hot, shows you have no understanding of attraction. It's a waste of time, and you're just proving that your time isn't worth anything else.

When you start treating yourself as already being what you want to become, you have a lot more self-respect, and don't waste time on petty sh*t like "sarging." You grasp the fact that time truly is money, and you just wasted your money.

Women choose you, as Player_Supreme says. And then you go talk to them.

The more you start to chase your dreams and passions, the concept of sarging becomes more lame. I just don't get it. I see women during the day and I go talk to them. Why should I dedicate or schedule a time to go out for the sole purpose of meeting chicks if I am already taking the opportunities life throws at me?

I work in an office setting, in front of a computer nearly all day. And after my day job, I spend several hours working on my businesses. If I was a lame-ass moron, I would use that as an excuse to never meet any women outside of my workplace.

Luckily, I am smarter than that. Rather than sulk, I go out often. I'll go do my business work at a local coffee shop. I spend my afternoons walking in town, talking to people.

You must be able to enjoy your own company for anyone else to enjoy it with you. I have had a hard time grasping this for most of my life, and I am finally getting the hang of it. I am starting to just go out and do whatever. Treat myself to dinner at a fancy restaurant, going to just check out the Maserati at the dealership, just doing whatever that I feel like doing, and having FUN with myself. Managing my time wisely, and not using work as an excuse to be boring. Everyday is an adventure.

That's why I think sarging is lame and boring. I live everyday...I think most people just exist, and sarging is not nearly as exciting.

If you don't get it now, I hope you do someday.

Thanks for your time, you may now go back to your bullsh*t discussions.
 

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I agree with player_supreme that "the woman chooses you." I also think that your entire day can become a sarge without even trying-- I've met women at banks, in the checkout line, in bookstores, at gas stations, and just randomly. I can't bring myself to llook down on guys that are out in the field trying to gain experience. Yes, they might be "ho chasers," but who gives a fk, because some of these fools are trying to build confidence, and are overcoming their fears.

One step at a time.

BTW What a regurgitative post...
 

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To each their own....however..

Player_Supreme is only half right. Yes, women do choose you, but it usually takes your intial effort to start it all. By telling us that talking to girls, getting phone numbers and getting to know them is a waste of time, you deny yourself that very chance.

Yes, I whole-heartedly agree that dreams should be always a main focus, but you're telling me that I shouldn't even bother with a girl. That's nice and all, and you might be happy about it, but when your dreams are achieved (or not), and you decide that it's time to find that girl, all you will have left are used, abused, divorced and aged ones to pick from. Yum!

I'll be honest, I don't feel that for half of my life, the only contact I should invoke on myself with women is a random passive discussion..

Go on a date, damn man!
 

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Wow, I definitely don't agree with that. Sarging is REALLY fun, I sarge with friends when we're just chilling at the mall all the time. Now I KNOW that doesn't make me a loser... lol, and who exactly do you think you are that you're saying that walking up to a girl who you find physically attractive shows that you have no understanding of attraction? The way I see it is, I'm 19, I know I'll be at the peak of my sexual appetite for a while, and sarging is fun. I've got goals, I've got self-respect, that has nothing to do with sarging and there really is no reason NOT to, especially when it's natural to do so.

When you see an attractive girl, you don't go up to her, when I see one, I do go up to her. With your post you'd be calling me a loser for doing that but... IMO i'd say it's the opposite.

Lastly I do choose all of my women, I dunno bout anyone else but besides the girls i know from high school/my town/job/college/networking, every single other girl I know because I just plain walked up to her somewhere. When I walk up to a girl, she'll either be obviously interested in the first minute or she'll be acting cold which... is not my problem. So besides misc. factors like walking up to someone in a bad mood, I wouldn't know why a girl would NOT like me or at least not give me a chance...
 

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I agree with Chicken Legs here. He has a great point. You shouldn't ever have to devote time to sarging.
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

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Wiesman44 said:
I agree with Chicken Legs here. He has a great point. You shouldn't ever have to devote time to sarging.
Do you go to a bar once in a while, or get a girl's number?
Essentially, you just devoted that time to sarging.
 

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I think that chickenlegs is just saying that you shouldn't go out for the SOLE purpose of sarging. However, if you are already out for another, more productive reason and you see a girl you want to approach, you should go for it.

I agree with this in that I never "plan" to sarge. However, if I have a blank spot in my schedule and there's nothing productive that I can fill it with, I'll just go out and cruise for chicks.
 

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Aite I wrote in bold. Everyone is agreeing but iunno...
chickenlegs03 said:
Sarging, or approaching lots of women just because they are hot, shows you have no understanding of attraction. It's a waste of time, and you're just proving that your time isn't worth anything else.
I thought talking to more and more girls would create a better understanding of attraction???
When you start treating yourself as already being what you want to become, you have a lot more self-respect, and don't waste time on petty sh*t like "sarging." You grasp the fact that time truly is money, and you just wasted your money.
What If I enjoy going to meet hot new girls? Then arent I treating myself as a person with self respect? Wouldnt that make me happy? And doesnt happiness overide time and money? Also have you ever gone clubbing and paid a cover charge to go to a club when girls get in free? You are paying to talk to girls...In instances like that I can understand it seeming like a waste of time and money but not in the streets when you are bored on a saturday afternoon or getting over a breakup or whatever...GFTOW is the phrase that comes to mind
Women choose you, as Player_Supreme says. And then you go talk to them.
LOL...Fvck that. If you are the guy and you got a pair, who gives a fvck what some chick says
The more you start to chase your dreams and passions, the concept of sarging becomes more lame. I just don't get it. I see women during the day and I go talk to them. Why should I dedicate or schedule a time to go out for the sole purpose of meeting chicks if I am already taking the opportunities life throws at me?
What if you passionate about gettin your d!ck sucked?
I work in an office setting, in front of a computer nearly all day. And after my day job, I spend several hours working on my businesses. If I was a lame-ass moron, I would use that as an excuse to never meet any women outside of my workplace.

Luckily, I am smarter than that. Rather than sulk, I go out often. I'll go do my business work at a local coffee shop. I spend my afternoons walking in town, talking to people.
You are going out your way to meet girls...aint that sarging. Im confused. Is this some kinda active disinterest tactic or something. You want to meet girls but you do actual work and meet them as opposed to meeting them straight on so it isnt sarging?
You must be able to enjoy your own company for anyone else to enjoy it with you. I have had a hard time grasping this for most of my life, and I am finally getting the hang of it. I am starting to just go out and do whatever. Treat myself to dinner at a fancy restaurant, going to just check out the Maserati at the dealership, just doing whatever that I feel like doing, and having FUN with myself. Managing my time wisely, and not using work as an excuse to be boring. Everyday is an adventure.
real talk
That's why I think sarging is lame and boring. I live everyday...I think most people just exist, and sarging is not nearly as exciting.
sarging is not as exciting as doing your business work at the coffee shop? Im lost...
If you don't get it now, I hope you do someday.
I hope so to... Apparently you are seeing something I am not. I "live" everyday at my job and I havent work less than 6 days a week for almost 3 months now. I am making money and balancing life, but this is not fun for me. Maybe you enjoy making money and doing businesswork at coffee shops but I like meeting new people, trying to fvck girls and talking to the fellas about it afterwards. The life you speak of doesnt really appeal to me. Maybe you can go deeper into that. I aint trying to come off bad in the post, just when I discuss stuff I always get into it and my fingers type faster than my brain thinks at times, lol.
Thanks for your time, you may now go back to your bullsh*t discussions.
 

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Lol. You, sir, are an idiot. Honestly, you do know that you're making yourself sound like some jealous KBJ right now, don't you? This won't change anyone and you're only making yourself look bad.
 

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chickenlegs03: Obviously YOU are the one with little to no self respect or confidence when you sit here condemning a practice that allows us to achieve our GOAL of meeting and attracting beautiful women. I have goals too, business and leisure oriented, but I'm mature enough to understand that you need to devote time in your life to women, or else you will never truly be happy.

And your whole concept of women choosing you really makes you look an AFC. I would recommend you delete your post if you want to save some dignity on this board.
 

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If Mystery or Ross Jefferies never sarged, where would we (the clueless hoards) all be right now?

Sorry....I respect your conclusions and opinion on this point chickenlegs, you've obviously given it some thought, but you haven't convinced me. I sarge 3-4 times a week. I enjoy it and it's a great learning experience.
 

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I go out to have fun. Sarging is a side effect of being out and meeting new people. But sometimes I go out with sarging being the first purpose, if I don't put getting chicks as a priority, then I don't get chicks. When I go out to sarge, I am focused on the goal.
 

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after sarging for some weeks now i think i finally understand how much of a time waster sargin is. go to events and places where you have something or a discussing to talk to girls about. only teenagers sarge because they got time on thier hands to waste. you can still meet women in every activities. if you have no other way to meet women then keep on sarging your time away.
 

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Sarging just to sarge is definately a waste of time, do what you enjoy doing, then if you see a hot babe, in the shops, at the beach, or at some party or social event, approach her and start a conversation, but don't just go out to sarge for hot babes as your sole purpose of going somewhere, go to places for other reasons and then if you see a hot babe there then make the most of the opportunity, live to enjoy your life, not to sarge for hot babes, then one will come along when you least expect it. :D
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

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Docs said:
Do you go to a bar once in a while, or get a girl's number?
Essentially, you just devoted that time to sarging.

Fvck off. Quit being so technical and go back and su#k on your bf's c#ck.
 

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Wiesman44 said:
Fvck off. Quit being so technical and go back and su#k on your bf's c#ck.
I sure as hell did not deserve that you little prick. I proved a point, so don't throw a hissy fit.:down:
 

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This post is one of the reasons why people say this site is garbage. Yeah, let's tell guys who are trying to improve their skills with interacting with women to do it only when they run into women instead of going out and getting approaches under their belt. Sorry, some people would like to get better at this within a year or two by pushing through it and gaining the experience instead of taking their laptop to a starbucks while doing business presentations and talking to maybe one girl a day. Basically it just sounds to me like you feel insecure with going out and sarging so instead you like to make yourself feel like you're going for another reason and just happened to be talking to them because they are there.
 

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OnTheEdge said:
This post is one of the reasons why people say this site is garbage. Yeah, let's tell guys who are trying to improve their skills with interacting with women to do it only when they run into women instead of going out and getting approaches under their belt. Sorry, some people would like to get better at this within a year or two by pushing through it and gaining the experience instead of taking their laptop to a starbucks while doing business presentations and talking to maybe one girl a day. Basically it just sounds to me like you feel insecure with going out and sarging so instead you like to make yourself feel like you're going for another reason and just happened to be talking to them because they are there.
You obviously veiw the hot babes as being the ultimate prize and not yourself, I feel sorry for you, there are so many opportunities to meet hot babes in everyday life situations, if you are desperate in your search for a hot babe you will never meet one, never think about them until you see one that you like then approach her and speak to her, you should be the prize and not her, live your life for yourself, not for a hot babe, they are everywhere that you go, you don't have to specifically spend all of your time searching for them, they appear in your everyday life, if you build a power within they will come to you, walk like a King, talk like a King, see yourself as the Prize and do what you want to do, don't let them control how you live, I used to and it caused me nothing but heartache misery and devastation. :D
 

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Breaking it down

Now I'm gonna have to break this down.

Apporaching girls:
But if a guy sarges girls for ALL his life. Yes that makes him a loser.
If a guy wants to be a pua and apporach every single girl that is attractive that comes in his range for the rest of his life. Yes that is pretty lame.
But if he doing it to solve this most of his girl problems then no he is not a loser
If he doing it to have fun and become more social no he is not a loser
If he hits a bar or club to meet not only women but people then no he is a loser
Sarging can help men, help re-program them.
Sarging is not for losers if they plan on using it for self-improvement and change their lifes

Feminism:
Yes it is here and it is alive. Yes girls get into clubs for free. What can we do ? Divorce rate is rising by 50% because of feminism. It's also slowly saprating down to other courties. The best thing to do is to be aware of it, their are some websites against this stupid act of women trying to become men.

To chickenlegs:
You sound pissed off bro, I wonder why ?
This stuff takes awhile and you haven't updated your apporach journal. I think you have thrown in the towel and quit. Sadly dude don't believe the media, if you don't understand attraction and get it down. Because you are never gonna know what it is like to have a good woman in your life. You could end up hating girls.
Don't quit bro :nono:

Cold Apporaches:
I disagree with player_supreme. Why want for a women to smile at you then you apporach her. A real man apporaches a woman he wants, shows her that he alpha male by his body language, and dosen't let her affect him. If she reacts rude to him, he simply moves on and finds another chick.

Even a beautiful woman doesn't know what she wants until she sees it. ~ Hitch
I have apporached many many girls without them smiling at me first and had many many girls begin to smile at me after I apporached them. A guy should do cold apporaches so he stops caring what women think of him. Yes he will have girls react rude, but he is learning to take what he wants.

Shallow men believe in luck. Strong men believe in cause and effect.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
I'm sadly seeing more and more guys letting women choose you. Thats what feminism wants. They want women to choose their men, a man should go up and say: "I'm a real man and guys like me are rare to find. Take it or wait 10 more years for another guy like me to apporach you" Listen to the women: Where the real men at? It's like all the real men are gone ??

Risk & Success:
“Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." Ralph Waldo Emerson
Winners never quit and quitters always quit. Their is more to life then just women, but not being able to successful apporach women will have some other affects on you in life.

A man must take risk in his life. He must drive a car, even tho that he could be killed driving that car. He must go to work even tho he can get hurt at work. He must eat food when the food could make him sick.
He must be social even tho he may have people back stab him and lie to him. But tho failure and mistakes he learns from them and contuines to move on within life.

Life:
Ask yourself, do you want to wait for 6 days for some chick to pick you. Or do you want to be picking the girl YOU want.

THIS IS YOUR LIFE !!!

You control your life, make your life work for you. Won't it suck if the government gave you some average chick and some average car you don't like ?

Won't you rather wake up to a girl you love to death and cool ass car and living in a cool house you bought yourself ?
Or
A house that the governement told you to live in, a car you don't even like and a girl who just boring to death.

Be happy to be alive and having the power to choose what you want in life.

"You creat your own universe as you go along."
Wintson Churchill
Women:
Thier is more to a book then it's cover, Sadly alot of hb 9 and 8's. Are girls with super high egos, AW, drama queens and rude down right b!tches.
I'm not saying their no such thing has a good hot chick but I'm being truthful.
I'm not saying that you should go for ugly chicks when their are ugly girls who are aw, drama queens and rude b!tches.

But men are first to judge women by her looks. Women are first to judge men by personailty.

A guy shouldn't just like a women because of her looks and should get to know her.
I agree having a life of chasing after hot chicks to boost your ego is bad for you and makes you a loser.

Having women in your life is fun. Come on if I was a post to topic going is banging girls fun and have a poll going yes or no.
99.9% of men would vote yes. Face it men love women and women love men. God made adam and eve. Your are better off accepting that you want women then being a femenist saying you don't ( their are some femenist who are married to men ). Most men who don't want women actually hate women. Most women who don't want men hate men. Hate will have you destoring yourself.

Final Point:
Whoever reads my post ask yourself.
Do you want to have all the things your heart desire ?
Or
Do you want to have things you don't want ?
Get out their make things happen, quit making excuses for not getting girls, quit making excuses for not getting rich.

The greatest risk is not to take any risk at all
 

Well I'm here to tell you there is such a magic wand. Something that will make you almost completely irresistible to any woman you "point it" at. Something guaranteed to fill your life with love, romance, and excitement.

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