For the milf lover vote :cheer: .Alle_Gory said:I wonder why McCain chose a hot VP....
For the milf lover vote :cheer: .Alle_Gory said:I wonder why McCain chose a hot VP....
Nahh. Easier access to her as Governor.ketostix said:For the milf lover vote :cheer: .
i'm pretty sure a useless and illegal war that forces us to borrow trillions from the chinese hurts the countryTruman181 said:Everyone says that the economy is poor because of 8 years of Bush....but I wonder....
Sure the economy was GREAT in the 90s....but was that because Clinton was in office and he magically made it all better???? Or was the economy great in the 90s because of the previous 12 years of Republicans in the White House??
And the economy is lousy in the New Millennium....is that because a Republican has been in the White House THIS decade??? Or is the economy bad this decade because Clinton was in office for 8 years before this decade???
Which came first, the chicken or the egg...
By no means am I a fan of Bush....but we are living in an economic crises here....it makes you wonder what really happened....is it what the media wants us to believe? That Bush was the cause....hmmm
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The Iraq war may have been useless and built on erroneous information and all that but an illegal war? It had UN approval by vote and UN resolutions. I hate when people say "illegal war" as if we need a war to be "legalized" (whatever that means) by other countries' opinion who don't like us and are our enemies anyway. I do think the Bush administration is responsible for this economy but now I see why they don't allow politics on this site, people say the most ridiculous things.Desert Fox said:i'm pretty sure a useless and illegal war that forces us to borrow trillions from the chinese hurts the country
but you know, it might've been clinton who did all that
:cheer:Levex said:This thread is already so getting locked up, so i won't feel bad throwing this in:
Defend this administration all you like, but if we took all those trillions spent on Iraq war and invested it in America's crumbling infrastructure we'd be a hell of a lot better off and safer than we are right now.
Now we're broke,our military is drained and tired, the rest of the civilized world quietly hates us, terror cells are getting more recruits than ever, and Russia is running circles around us poking us with a stick and calling our mom a b1tch.
So lets all vote for a trigger happy senile old man who can't remember any of his previous votes or statements when asked, and a rifle-shooting housewife who doesn't believe in contraception and birth control(that worked out real well for her daughter btw..) and hope for the best.
People, seriously?
I don't accuse everyone who doesn't like Obama to be against him because he's black. Some people simply don't like his positions, that's fine. If that's the reason you are against him, that's perfectly legit. But we can't deny the fact that in a close election, if you have people that won't vote for him because he's black, that is going to make the difference in the election. Think about this, why are so many Hillary voters going to vote for McCain? Obama has basically the same policy positions as Hillary, so why would all these working class whites in middle America who were going to vote for Hillary now switching over to vote for McCain? Why would they vote for someone from the OPPOSING party when there is someone in their own party with the identical views of Hillary running? And I'm to believe it's not because of Obama's race? Look at this article here, it has PROOF from exit polls that Obama's race is a large factor. At least 12% of the electorate OPENLY ADMIT that they won't vote for Obama because of his race. So you can only imagine what the number would be if it included those who don't have to guts to openly admit it: http://www.philly.com/inquirer/colu...scussed__but_Obama_s_race_may_be_decider.htmlTyTe`EyEz said:There are plenty of reasons that I'm going to vote Republican; Obama's skin color is not one of them.
Yeah but that works both ways. Some people are voting for Obama just because he's black and won't vote for McCain no matter what,and some women liked Hillary just because she's a woman. I'm sure Edwards felt that Obama being black was an advantage. People also vote for the candidate that they think will most benefit their identity group or vote against the candidate they think will unbeneficial to their identity group. The thing is you can't shame people into voting a certain way.speakeasy said:I don't accuse everyone who doesn't like Obama to be against him because he's black. Some people simply don't like his positions, that's fine. If that's the reason you are against him, that's perfectly legit. But we can't deny the fact that in a close election, if you have people that won't vote for him because he's black, that is going to make the difference in the election. Think about this, why are so many Hillary voters going to vote for McCain? Obama has basically the same policy positions as Hillary, so why would all these working class whites in middle America who were going to vote for Hillary now switching over to vote for McCain? Why would they vote for someone from the OPPOSING party when there is someone in their own party with the identical views of Hillary running? And I'm to believe it's not because of Obama's race? Look at this article here, it has PROOF from exit polls that Obama's race is a large factor. At least 12% of the electorate OPENLY ADMIT that they won't vote for Obama because of his race. So you can only imagine what the number would be if it included those who don't have to guts to openly admit it: http://www.philly.com/inquirer/colu...scussed__but_Obama_s_race_may_be_decider.html
I guarantee you that the net number of people who won't vote for Obama because he's black is greater than the number who would vote for him because he's black. If anyone denies that being a minority running for president is a liability(not necessarily a deciding factor per se, but a liability) then you just aren't seeing the forest for the trees.ketostix said:Yeah but that works both ways. Some people are voting for Obama just because he's black
Whoa whoa whoa...illegal? If you can close that moveon.org tab for 2 seconds and actually do some real research, you will find out that Saddam violated the U.N. ceasefire agreement 17 times. We had every right to enter Iraq. Bet ya didn't hear THAT on MSNBC, did ya?Desert Fox said:i'm pretty sure a useless and illegal war that...
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Well if someone had taken that same advice with regards to Abraham Lincoln, the U.S. would be two seperate countries right now. Obama has more experience than Lincoln had, and yet Lincoln turned out to be one of the greatest presidents in history. Licoln isn't the only great president that had little political experience, and there are many presidents that had lots of experience but were failures. Experience certainly counts for something, but more important is ability to lead, judgement and command of the issues. Bush has much more experience in politics than Obama, but as we can see, he lacks judgement and intelligence. If Bush had 10 more years in government, he's still be a cluster****. When Obama announced his candidacy, I found myself wishing he had ran for governor or Illinois first before trying for the white house, just because his experience issue would be a liability, and with race already a liablity amongst many voters, he doesn't need a second.Wired for Sound said:Anyway. Obama has VERY little executive experience, and would fail miserably in the White House. That's all that really matters.
Nobody says you should vote with international opinion just for the sake of doing so. I only point it out to show the contrast. How America and Americans think is just SO different from the rest of the world, and not always in a good way. For example, if a European candidate was talking all this religious nonsense like Palin about creationism and no abortion even in the case of rape, they would be laughed off the stage. Or even her being a global warming denier. That kind of cowboy, small town talk that Americans eat up would make someone a laughing stock in most the world where polished, articulate, scholarly candidates are sought after(think Tony Blair). In American the right calls them "elitists". In America these simple-minded clowns like Palin and Bush are taken seriously. Americans are low information voters. They care more about how a candidate makes them "feel" than whether that candidate's policies are in their own best interest. Bush is case in point. He basically uses the Christians. Most of them are lower or middle class, he gives tax cuts to his rich buddies, loots the treasury and plunges the nation into massive debt, handing out untold billions in no bid contracts to his oil mogul buddies while the middle class gets to watch their jobs shipped over seas, gas skyrocket, food and healthcare skyrocket, inflation up the ass. All studies show that the rich have benefitted immensely under Bush while wages for the average person are falling. CEO pay has gone into the stratosphere, and McCain/Palin think these people should get even more tax breaks. But noooo....Palin is better because she makes stupid jokes about being a hockey mom, lipstick and pit bulls. Who cares if her economic policies will rape the middle class up the ass...you know especially when the other guy is black. Meanwhile Bush vetos any attempt for a windfall tax on oil companies who make more in one year than the GDP of many countries. Yet all Bush has to do is wave a bible in the air and have the Christian coalition rally the base on "morals and values" and the typical American will fall in line and vote for someone who is detrimental to their own economic well being and say nonsense like "Bush seems like a guy I could have a beer with, he's a straight shooter! Yeehaw!" Such morons. Such, utter, utter morons. And here we go again with Palin.ketostix said:See, this just strengthens the argument in favor of Palin/McCain. I'd never vote the way other countries want me to or believe they have America's best interest at heart and not their own.
illegal war as it was not approved by congress. congress must declare war, not the potusketostix said:The Iraq war may have been useless and built on erroneous information and all that but an illegal war? It had UN approval by vote and UN resolutions. I hate when people say "illegal war" as if we need a war to be "legalized" (whatever that means) by other countries' opinion who don't like us and are our enemies anyway. I do think the Bush administration is responsible for this economy but now I see why they don't allow politics on this site, people say the most ridiculous things.
lmao another pro war foolWired for Sound said:Whoa whoa whoa...illegal? If you can close that moveon.org tab for 2 seconds and actually do some real research, you will find out that Saddam violated the U.N. ceasefire agreement 17 times. We had every right to enter Iraq. Bet ya didn't hear THAT on MSNBC, did ya?
Anyway. Obama has VERY little executive experience, and would fail miserably in the White House. That's all that really matters. Vote for the other guy, unless he has some equally bright red flag on his resume. As far as I know...he doesn't.
That's the funny part. They get all frustrated because she's a woman in power, yet she's not a liberal. They can't stand it! Women are only supposed to be liberal feminists like Hillary Clinton...ketostix said:To see a woman hold views in opposition to most feminist and see them all riled up is entertaining. It's like watching a cat fight lol.
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