So I have this older buddy, I believe he's 42 and he's talked about his triumphs with women throughout growing up, how he landed his wife who's pretty stunning even at her age, he's more on the smooth side then the looks side but you could say he's a decent looking guy. We talk about the women I date and girls I see and stuff all the time as he's been out of the game for years now and still enjoys the conversations.
This guy knows most of the rules and a lot of advise he's given me in the past I have been skeptical of, done stuff my way I thought was right and it's turned out wrong and his way looking back would of been the correct path. So at lunch today we were talking about an EX of mine, the one I met up with last Wednesday and had an awesome time with, UNTIL the alcohol got the better of me and I totally blew it. http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=225437
Anyhow, we talked last night on the phone for a bit about it and I'm surprised she even reached back out after that night, but she did. I did apologize and told her I'd make it up to her somehow, asked what she was doing this weekend and she said a few small things and I said let's go do something and make a night out of it. She said "yeah, give it another try huh" but in a funny way and agreeable with it. I said a few things we could do and she countered with "Let's take baby steps and maybe just meet up in your area and grab a drink and hangout instead of making a night out of it" I sorta took that as a rejection, but after last week I can see how she has some walls up. I didn't agree or disagree with it but said that I would text her and we'll figure something out.
So my friend and I talked about this and he's saying I should do the friend role with her, but keep seeing other women which I am, and that she's the type who doesn't prioritize sex, she wants a partnership and she's looking at the longterm of things and that if you start stuff off sexually and all physical it eventually fades away and that this type of women needs more emotional/friend type of bond that it would then turn into something more and everything else would follow. She's always said sex wasn't important in a relationship to her and she planned on no sex the last 4 or 5 months she was engaged and waiting till her marriage night from what she believes in. Her last boyfriend and her didn't have sex for 5 months or something when they started dating, and we hooked up very fast in the relationship and she felt like she lost some of my respect that way.
I know we preach it on here all the time "Escalate sexually" and I know why we do, because we don't want girls to view us as a friend and we want the sexual benefits, so basically. Do you guys agree with him? I know some people are going to say "Would she not fvck Brad Pitt" etc yeah probably so but I'm not Brad Pitt so let's leave that out. Have you guys had high quality girls in the past who were actually like this and didn't put a lot of importance on sex and went the friend route and built something that way and it worked out? Don't get me wrong, I am dating another girl at the moment and will keep dating others, but I don't feel like totally tossing away a girl of this quality, more like keeping her back and playing the game, playing that route as a "Friend" but somehow I have to keep a romantic interest in her and have her keep it in myself. Possibly just having good times out with her, but maybe kino and putting my arm around her, and even kissing a bit. Also, once you've had a girl as a girlfriend and you don't use the term lightly and neither does she, and she doesn't date around a lot, and you've hit all the sexually stuff, spending weekends together, different special moments, do you ever really fall into the HARD friend-zone? She'll probably always feel something for you as she's not a slutty girl and doesn't date a lot.
Anyways, success stories on this? Or failures? I'm all ears...
This guy knows most of the rules and a lot of advise he's given me in the past I have been skeptical of, done stuff my way I thought was right and it's turned out wrong and his way looking back would of been the correct path. So at lunch today we were talking about an EX of mine, the one I met up with last Wednesday and had an awesome time with, UNTIL the alcohol got the better of me and I totally blew it. http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=225437
Anyhow, we talked last night on the phone for a bit about it and I'm surprised she even reached back out after that night, but she did. I did apologize and told her I'd make it up to her somehow, asked what she was doing this weekend and she said a few small things and I said let's go do something and make a night out of it. She said "yeah, give it another try huh" but in a funny way and agreeable with it. I said a few things we could do and she countered with "Let's take baby steps and maybe just meet up in your area and grab a drink and hangout instead of making a night out of it" I sorta took that as a rejection, but after last week I can see how she has some walls up. I didn't agree or disagree with it but said that I would text her and we'll figure something out.
So my friend and I talked about this and he's saying I should do the friend role with her, but keep seeing other women which I am, and that she's the type who doesn't prioritize sex, she wants a partnership and she's looking at the longterm of things and that if you start stuff off sexually and all physical it eventually fades away and that this type of women needs more emotional/friend type of bond that it would then turn into something more and everything else would follow. She's always said sex wasn't important in a relationship to her and she planned on no sex the last 4 or 5 months she was engaged and waiting till her marriage night from what she believes in. Her last boyfriend and her didn't have sex for 5 months or something when they started dating, and we hooked up very fast in the relationship and she felt like she lost some of my respect that way.
I know we preach it on here all the time "Escalate sexually" and I know why we do, because we don't want girls to view us as a friend and we want the sexual benefits, so basically. Do you guys agree with him? I know some people are going to say "Would she not fvck Brad Pitt" etc yeah probably so but I'm not Brad Pitt so let's leave that out. Have you guys had high quality girls in the past who were actually like this and didn't put a lot of importance on sex and went the friend route and built something that way and it worked out? Don't get me wrong, I am dating another girl at the moment and will keep dating others, but I don't feel like totally tossing away a girl of this quality, more like keeping her back and playing the game, playing that route as a "Friend" but somehow I have to keep a romantic interest in her and have her keep it in myself. Possibly just having good times out with her, but maybe kino and putting my arm around her, and even kissing a bit. Also, once you've had a girl as a girlfriend and you don't use the term lightly and neither does she, and she doesn't date around a lot, and you've hit all the sexually stuff, spending weekends together, different special moments, do you ever really fall into the HARD friend-zone? She'll probably always feel something for you as she's not a slutty girl and doesn't date a lot.
Anyways, success stories on this? Or failures? I'm all ears...
