Same Crap, Different Decade

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Sup gents,

In my past AFC life, I would have approached this situation differently. Taking a different approach in my 30s, I'm working toward developing a strong DJ skillset and mentality, especially toward women who aren't qualified.

I've been dating this chick for a few weeks. We work for different employers, but on the same floor, so we still have interaction but it's not exactly "dating at work".

I recently cancelled our most recent date because I was sick with the flu. She was like "Ok, there's always next week."

She came into work today, dressed hotter than usual. I was in a meeting and didn't acknowledge her presence immediately. When I got around to it, she was behind closed doors with another guy...not conducting business, but OBVIOUSLY going out of her way to provoke some kind of reaction on my part. i.e. they talked for 2 hours, laughing, you name it. I ignored it, then turned around out of my desk to get a drink, and caught her staring at me.

The only reaction I was ready to give was cold withdrawal and a general attitude of dismissal. I held off, wanting to hear what the MM's have to say. I guess women still pull this crap in their 30s as well, and probably until they're old and unattractive/powerless.

Personally, I have no time for shi*t tests anymore and my tolerance for women who play such games is nil. I've recently gotten away from a relationship with a BPD nut, so I'm acutely aware of this kind of crap.

So what's next? Ignore and play it cool? Next? Her behavior pissed me off, no doubt, and I'd like to just blow her off without telling her why.

She also never calls or texts unless she's called or is texted first. She doesn't respond to "not calling" like most women do. I've also caught her giggling about one of her exes she has "eating out of her hand" whom she refers to as a "Disneyland mess with a huge c*ck".

Gents?
 

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samspade said:
Non-responsiveness is the best way to go.

You've been dating - did you sleep with her already?
Yes, a few times. There was some apprehension at first because of the work scenario, but so far no issues that I can see.
 

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Well, idk man, you just can't care. Not sure what else to say.

You just pretty much need to treat her like a side project or hobby or
whatever you want to call it. If you don't get emotional about her, which
it looks like you are, then you can't lose.

Its kind of like if you were out and saw some HB9 talking to some guy and they seemed
kind of close but you did not know her and never met her before. If she ended up in your
bed that night are you thinking about that guy she was talking to earlier? No. So you just
have to keep that mentallity until you are in a LTR which is far down the road.

So to your question "whats next"? Well, if you can place yourself in the mind frame I outlined above
what would you do? Probably nothing. Maybe invite her over for a f*ck, whatever.
 

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Dear Origin,
Work place relationships are fraught with Danger...In this Country we have Draconian work place relation laws,in which the Great Goddess Woman is ALWAYS right...To make this worse,many individual work places establish even more stringent requirements,often with dire consequences..'spose it shows how switched on they are...Just another view from a deck chair on the Titanic,2012 is going to be an interesting year.
 

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That sounds like sexual harassment. Have you considered approaching your HR dramaqueen and letting her know you feel harassed.
 

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We've discussed the workplace situation at length, and the only reason we moved forward with it is because I'm leaving soon to make my side business a full-time venture. The current companies are both start-ups so the environment is ridiculously lax. The women are "harassed", well, what corporate America would deem as "harassed", on a daily basis. It's more of a "giant dysfunctional family" type scenario. I treat the women here like my little sisters.

She did pull the "I don't feel comfortable around you" BS one day when I called her out on some other bad behavior. Apparently I was "too direct" with her and it made her "uncomfortable" when I asked her to quit barking at my team about mundane things like not answering the phone after a ring and a half. My response to her attitude was "well, don't act like an ass then." In most other organizations I'd be up sh*t creek with a statement like that.

Anyhow, complete indifference seems to be the most effective dish. Thanks MDJ’s for verifying.
 

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if this sort of low behavior gets to you, it means she already has you hooked.

most natural response would be to just laugh it off, and break her ego by referring to it afterwards by " you really lower your value in my eyes when you hang out with bums" and maybe adding " that was hilarious, I hope that wasn't to get back at me!" .. only much later though.

Right now, you are going to give her a cold shoulder, no calls, no texts, no next weeks. And she'll come back to you.

The fact that you were silent and tense about it already gave it away. You cared. And you were hurt.

I suggest immediate indifference, find something else to think about and be very reluctant for a next date. Possibly, put it off again.
 

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Boilermaker said:
if this sort of low behavior gets to you, it means she already has you hooked.

most natural response would be to just laugh it off, and break her ego by referring to it afterwards by " you really lower your value in my eyes when you hang out with bums" and maybe adding " that was hilarious, I hope that wasn't to get back at me!" .. only much later though.

Right now, you are going to give her a cold shoulder, no calls, no texts, no next weeks. And she'll come back to you.

The fact that you were silent and tense about it already gave it away. You cared. And you were hurt.

I suggest immediate indifference, find something else to think about and be very reluctant for a next date. Possibly, put it off again.
Fair enough.

I wouldn't say it's the type of behavior that's pissing me off. It's the random, wtf, unpredictable nature of her behavior. It's not really normal. It breaks my trust and makes me think I've got another unstable woman on my hands.

I'd disagree about the silent and tense part. The only response she saw was one of indifference. Let's be real, I know better than to let an attractive woman perceive she has any kind of power. That would be a disaster. I discuss any frustration with her crap behavior here on SoSuave, not with her directly. I'm trying to gauge where other men would be on this topic and if it's even worth any further investment.

As far as being hooked, I'd equate a statement like that with not being able to walk. She followed up with another sh*t test after my original post a few hours ago. I've since ended things and told her I'm no longer interested and didn't give her specifics. She can chew on that while I spin others.

Thanks for the replies :)
 

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dude you need to relax ! women test you to see if you are solid and not going to get up tight etc so see it as a blessing instead of a curse. You also need to put your foot down if you think it is necessary i.e her behaviour is seriously going to unhinge you. But overall just see it as her way of saying I'm interested.

When you cancelled the date because of the flu you should have given her another day or at least said you definately want to take her out when you are better if that is what you wanted. So it seems like you put her on a bit of unstable ground ?

This is funny btw..."Disneyland mess with a huge c*ck".
 

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window said:
dude you need to relax ! women test you to see if you are solid and not going to get up tight etc so see it as a blessing instead of a curse. You also need to put your foot down if you think it is necessary i.e her behaviour is seriously going to unhinged you. But overall just see it as her way of saying I'm interested.
Possibly, yes. I guess I see sh*t tests as a sign of immaturity and chalk them up to red flags. I didn't see her behavior as the problem so much as the unpredictability of it all. It's always the same though. Things will be coasting along drama-free, we'll have a solid night together, then boom - sh*t test. It gets old, and it breaks my trust.

When you cancelled the date because of the flu you should have given her another day or at least said you definately want to take her out when you are better if that is what you wanted. So it seems like you put her on a bit of unstable ground ?
We rescheduled when I cancelled.

This is funny btw..."Disneyland mess with a huge c*ck".
Yea, it was pretty funny.
 

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To me its not a sh!test what she is doing - it is blatant disrespect.

I will not tolerate a women that openly flirts with another guy.
 

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Zunder said:
To me its not a sh!test what she is doing - it is blatant disrespect.

I will not tolerate a women that openly flirts with another guy.
I'm glad you see this in a similar light. I started to think I was being too uptight about this.

She tried MORE sh*t tests today even after I broke it off, as if I was somehow joking when I told her things ran their course. Then she attempted to compare me to this guy and his AFC, people-pleasing, "do whatever the women want" attitude. “Why can’t you be more like that?” she asks. Insulting to say the least, but I think the fact I laughed in her face about her attempts to undermine the conversation by comparing me to this guy pissed her off.

Then she throws out "so we aren't even friends anymore?" I told her I have enough friends, and wished her well on her journey to make more friends and that we're simply "co-workers" and all conversations moving forward should be 100% work-related. She then pulled the “I’m so confused, I don’t understand any of this” attitude. Then she complained to the company owner about perceived harassment. After showing him her oversexualized Skype messages and no reciprocation on my behalf, he now knows who the problem is.

Lesson learned, listen when people tell you to not date at work.
 

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Sounds like this girl has tons of issues... are you looking for LTR or ****-buddy?

Personally I have a perfect LTR whom don't play games and truly don't even ****-test (Meaning to say Smooth sailing all the way with no unnecessary dramas)

And a Fling or F-buddy whom likes to create dramas to hype up her life.
 

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Sounds like this is a situation you would best avoid entirely. You know how to pick the damaged ones don't you?

Unfortunately if you try to cut this one off now, she's going to start drama. The best thing IMHO to do would be continue to be fun and friendly and flirtatious but never be alone with her ever again. She will get bored and move on to an easier mark.

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She tried MORE sh*t tests today even after I broke it off, as if I was somehow joking when I told her things ran their course. Then she attempted to compare me to this guy and his AFC, people-pleasing, "do whatever the women want" attitude. “Why can’t you be more like that?” she asks. Insulting to say the least, but I think the fact I laughed in her face about her attempts to undermine the conversation by comparing me to this guy pissed her off.

Then she throws out "so we aren't even friends anymore?" I told her I have enough friends, and wished her well on her journey to make more friends and that we're simply "co-workers" and all conversations moving forward should be 100% work-related. She then pulled the “I’m so confused, I don’t understand any of this” attitude. Then she complained to the company owner about perceived harassment. After showing him her oversexualized Skype messages and no reciprocation on my behalf, he now knows who the problem is.

Lesson learned, listen when people tell you to not date at work.
HA! I wrote this post before reading that. Good to know I was not off the mark. Yep, doesn't surprise me one bit. And yep, never date at (or near) work ;)
 

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Then she complained to the company owner about perceived harassment.
Jeez, what a CVNT!!
 
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