Rotating Polyandry article

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I found the link to this article in the comments section of the George Clooney link that Warrior 74 posted over in the Clooney thread. I didn't want to hijack that thread so here it is. Anyone who is considering getting married should read it:

http://www.counter-currents.com/2011/06/rotating-polyandry-and-its-enforcers-part-1/

A few things that caught my interest:

The author talks about how "after four years of happy marriage and shortly after her 27th birthday, she began to feel bored and unhappy for no apparent reason". Her study showed that this is part of a normal cycle for women.
Most people know that couples go through a "honeymoon phase", so this was her leaving that phase.

I have always maintained that pairs bond for at least long enough to ensure the survival of the child, so this doesn't surprise me. But I am surprised this phase isn't a little longer. A four year old child is still going to need a lot of parental support to survive.

When studying this phenomenon, the author found that some women
“claimed that when their husbands touched them, they felt violated; they said their bodies would freeze up and they would feel tightness in their chest and/or a sick feeling in their stomach.”
Ouch.

She also notes:
"One thing that usually does change after the wedding is the woman’s willingness to overlook her man’s faults. Many men will tell you: “when my wife and I were dating, I could do no wrong; now that we are married, I can do no right.” "
I experienced some of this in my own marriage. She starts out treating you like you're perfect, never criticizing you, supporting you in everything. Then, once the honeymoon phase wears off, the complaints start to come about all your faults, real or imagined.

Here's a great point she makes:
"women want to get married, not to be married. They often love not so much their husbands as their bridal-fantasy in which the man serves as a necessary prop."
I think there's a lot of truth in that. There's an old saying that the marriage is for the man, and the wedding is for the woman.

This results in:
"Females want to wear the dress and have the wedding. Many women have looked forward to that day their whole lives, which ultimately sets them up for a huge crash"
And eventually the woman goes on to seek other lovers.

When you read this and see the process pointed out so exactly, it makes you wonder how it is that some relationships actually last longer than the four years, or the honeymoon stage, or whatever. I suppose the key is that both people have to genuinely like each other.


Oh, there's a second part also, about how the divorce courts screw guys over. You can read that if you like. I'm not going to comment on it, since that topic's been covered pretty well here over the years.
http://www.counter-currents.com/2011/06/rotating-polyandry-and-its-enforcers-part-2/
 

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Dear Zecko,
You've done it again....every stupid bathbun considering marriage should read this..Really guys,never let them get their feet under your table unless you want Kids....And then accept that you have a 50-50 chance of losing them.....Still there is always the consolation that yours and your forbears genes carry on....They can't take that from us,but doubtless they are working on it.
 

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I used to wonder why in the old days men would subject their wives to wearing a chastity belt. As I have learned more about true sexual sociology (as opposed to the cr@p perpetrated by the matriarchical media), I now understand why men have had to resort to such drastic measures.

Of course nowadays, men have the DNA test as the ultimate chastity belt. :D
 

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This stuff can make the toughest guy on earth weep like a little bi4ch. Its just horrifying.
 

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It never ceases to amaze me how post-marriage oral sex (the wife's gaping maw) stops once a woman is legally bound to the man she went through the trouble of duping into marriage.

Every married man I know (I reiterate that statement:), EVERY MARRIED MAN I KNOW has repeatedly told me, when I bluntly asked, his wife stopped sucking his c0ck after they got married.

It's not to say that a few of the guys who I've begun to unplug from their dreary-eyed hell haven't sac-ed up and gotten their wives to take his shaft to the back of her throats (with renewed vigor I gladly add).

I wholeheartedly believe that women are in love with the spectacle of the wedding. The marriage is the baggage she has to deal with on the ass-end of the honeymoon.
 

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you guys are a bunch of pansies, no offense. Go out and bang lots of girls and have a good time. All this circle-jerk hand-wringing is starting to make me think this board is populated by homos.

Why are all the "mature" threads so full of self-pity? I think a lot of guys here need some testosterone injections.

Go out. Bang women. Have fun. Don't get married. Don't expect women to be there fo'evah and evah.
 

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I'm not trying to say don't get married (although I can't recommend it either). I'm saying if you do be aware of this stuff, and don't go into it for reasons based on wishful thinking. Anytime you get involved long term with a woman, you should sleep with one eye open. I don't see this as self pity, it's just accepting reality.

I don't regret getting married, even though it failed. I thought it was a great life and learning experience. I figured going in that I would try it once. I lost a little money doing it, but I came out of it okay.

Look, none of this stuff is new. My grandparents used to refer to this as the "seven year itch". And I already mentioned the old saying "the marriage is for the man, and the wedding is for the woman". What has changed is that women can now better economically support themselves (often with the help of the state), plus the moral standards are decayed, so they feel more free to move on from the marriage.

KarmaSutra said:
I wholeheartedly believe that women are in love with the spectacle of the wedding. The marriage is the baggage she has to deal with on the ass-end of the honeymoon.
And why does the wedding appeal to them? For that one day they are the center of attention (we know how women love that). She gets to wear the fancy dress, get photographed, get gifts, and have everyone tell them how beautiful she looks. The marriage is an afterthought.

In light of all this, you almost wonder how some marriages actually survive. How can I still be living with my LTR after eight years? How can Rollo still be married after 14? Obviously there has to be more keeping you together than mere chemicals.
 

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Zarky said:
you guys are a bunch of pansies, no offense. Go out and bang lots of girls and have a good time. All this circle-jerk hand-wringing is starting to make me think this board is populated by homos.

Why are all the "mature" threads so full of self-pity? I think a lot of guys here need some testosterone injections.

Go out. Bang women. Have fun. Don't get married. Don't expect women to be there fo'evah and evah.
OK tough guy - you've had 15 years of experience with this stuff - as your signature says.
Instead of coming out with cheap shots (and your a brave man if you are calling the likes of K/Sutra a "pvssy") elaborate for us please. You must have lots of interesting stories with all that experience...........
 

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Yeah,I thought Zarky was a bit over the top too....the general thrust of the article supports what many of us have been saying for years,"I would recommend working hard, saving money, refusing to socialize with spoiled women, and reading Michelle Langley if you want to learn what kinds of things you are missing out on. If you still cannot rid yourself of the desire to marry, learning an Eastern European language might not be a bad investment."
 

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Zunder said:
(and your a brave man if you are calling the likes of K/Sutra a "pvssy") elaborate for us please.
Indeed, it must take a lot of courage to stand up against the most cutthroat bully of our brotherhood.

I congratulate Zarky, too.
 

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Hey Boilermaker,
the correct spelling of Fred's surname is:
Nietzsche
 

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That's why I'm not married and have no intention of getting married.

I have casual sex with different women. I spend my money on myself traveling the world. It's a good life.
 

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Zarky said:
all the whining on the 'Mature' board makes me ill.
I don't see how warning about the pitfalls of marriage and the true nature of women is whining.

When you see reality as it really is, then you can make more educated decisions.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Dear All,
Thought I would like to buy a copy of "Womens Infidelity" on line the cheapest copy secondhand on Amazon,was about A$100 bit more for you blokes buying with US Dollars.....Seriously,I have read that article four times now,each time I get another insight.
 

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Dear Scara,

keep it real and don't worry too much brother.

it all is going to end for all of us at some unexpected point; and then all the meanings in the world will evaporate, if you know what I mean.
A guy like you should read less and see more in my humble opinion.
best regards,

:)
 

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Scaramouche said:
Thought I would like to buy a copy of "Womens Infidelity" on line the cheapest copy secondhand on Amazon,was about A$100
It looks like you can still get it directly from their website but it's still ridiculously expensive ($59 US for the paperback, &39 US just for the e-book).
Not sure why it costs so much.

http://womensinfidelity.com/

The pattern of behavior stages she talks about sounds pretty realistic to me from what I've seen, but I still wonder what happens when the pattern gets broken.
I kind of agree with Boilermaker in a way, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just go out and enjoy life and your women/woman. If things go sour, at least you'll know why and won't blame yourself.
 

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Dear Zecko,
Just occasionally one comes across an article that lifts the shards from your eyes,this is just such an article....Sure there is a sense in which there is a certain futility in analysing why things go wrong...and yeah rather than fixing the clutch or the carburettor on your Motor yourself,there is a lot of sense in just stepping around the whole issue,handing it over to a specialist and pick up the tab....but what a great journey it is sorting something out for yourself...In doing so and pushing things through to a successful conclusion,you learn all sorts of things about not only the offending item but yourself...you Grow and thats what life is about,the moment you stop growing they might as well slap you in the face with a shovel...This article completely vindicates the way many Don Juans on this site lead their life...The experience of the only real success mentioned,a guy who turned around his sinking marriage.this was a remarkable learning lesson for me....I have always held to the maxim,that you never give ultimatums....this guy did and had I done the same in my last marriage it could have made my kids at least,a lot happier.
 
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