Role of Sexual State in Pick-Up

[SickAgain]

I want to start a discussion about something a little bit more pertinent for the forums, as I feel that we aren't getting a good dosage of actual DJ material, and overdose of AFCesque topics i.e. "this girl dumped me" or "what do i do when she looks at me".

So a topic in pick-up that I feel that is important, but however widely overlooked is the sexual state required when approaching women. This requirement is imperative not only to elude the friend zone, but also make it known that you are looking for primary sex from this person you approach and all other things are secondary. Furthermore, it lets your target understand you as a person is willing to risk a rejection rather than be a coward and wait hope that you will just become lucky. Basically let it be known that you are not a pvssy, but a dominant character who takes initiative and deals with the repercussions later on.

Now I don't want to confuse other in believe that you must be a complete sexual monster, but you need to put the vibe out there that talking to you will in one way or another open the possibility of sex. I feel that this is best accomplished through playful kino and/or suggestive flirting upon a first encounter.

If anyone has anything to add along these lines please add and hopefully we can develop a better understanding of one of the key aspects in pick-up.

 

[Scars]

Agreed. A lot of guys try to hide their sexuality when talking to a woman in fear of coming off "creepy" or "perverted," when rather you really want to make it apparently obvious what your intentions are from the very start. It clears away any confusion or misunderstandings that you would then later have to deal with.

 

[Poonani Maker]

What exactly are "sexual state" and "vibe"?

Well, basically, it's being cut physically, lean like a 4X4 piece of lumber standing unmovable on the Earth. You're a M A N. You're wild. Your mind is free, like Lawrence Fishburn, I'd say. You're intelligent. You're just on fire basically. You're not masturbating on a regular or even weekly basis. Your blood is warm.

You should BE as if ANY woman could see herself step in front of you, and slip your penis in her, at a moment's notice.

 

[Poonani Maker]

How specifically is this accomplished? I've never had that last part happen even once in my life. (They don't make any such first moves, let alone get directly physical on the spot, in my life so far.)

The key words in the last part are "as if." I have had a woman (young tan blonde devil hb9 in blue mini-skirt) make eye contact, walk across the room to the bar where I was standing, and sorta push her tush into my penis, her back into my chest, her hair swished into my mouth/face, just so's I's could feels. It felt great, I guess like some of you guys feel when you get grinded on the dance floor.

Anyway, you asked how? Well, you gotta WORK. You gotta accomplish something, on your own, or with help from others. You gotta have direction, be on the "path" so-to-speak. You must be travelling towards a destination. You must be moving forward with hope, turned toward the light, toward the Sun. You must love a good woman's (that you've found's) mind and smile. Just treat her beautiful face as an energizer to your life. You've gotta be loving. She's gotta see that you've got love in you. She helps you, you help her.

If you've ever teared up at beautiful scenery that you've seen in either real life or in a movie, then I suggest you CAUSE yourself to tear up again, and again, and again. Whatever causes you to FEEL emotion, then return to the well so-to-speak. Keep nourishing your eyes or ears with things that make you love not only the beauty outside of you, but also the beauty within you.

Women are attracted to this, someone who will improve them or make them FEEL better, someone who could possibly make their future kids FEEL better. You've gotta be that loving caring source of strength and, yes, power.

 

[ready123]

Chronocidal, go google Gunwitch Method. That's where the idea of sexual state comes from. It's subcommunicated sexual intent.

 

[Poonani Maker]

I haven't had something like this happen, as I said.

Well, I'm telling you, I have. Understand?

Huh?
Is this about a specific woman or about any and all women? Please check this and compare it to your previous post; I see a contradiction.
What specific sort of "work" is necessary? (I.e. where would I find a good, direct, step-by-step guide to gaining the ability mentioned in the previous post?) I'm seeing you get all metaphorical here and it's not really so helpful. Accomplishing unrelated things has nothing to do with random women walking up and flirting physically nor with all women viewing one as sexually attractive; I can tell you that from experience.

The WORK I'm referring to is being given a task into the "unknown," accepting that mission, and going forth enduring risk after risk after risk, sometimes in the dark while in the snow, or up a mountain, and then coming out on the other side, intact, and with a few more white hairs on your head. Women, can sense that you've risked life and limb at one time or another. They want someone who might one day risk life and limb for her children that she spends 9 months to bare, and then raise from the ground up. If you do things that you're afraid of, you get a swagger or carry about you that is unmistakable to women, AND men. Men respect me when they see me coming. Some even salute me just out of reflex. When a woman sees you're respected by other men, that's also sexy to her.

 

[scartissue5555]

A very well known pua by the name of "manwh0re (manwh0re.org) as well as jeffie from RSD actually recommends whacking off to the point that your about to come before going out, that it harnesses all that sexual energy without actually releasing it.

Haven't tried it yet but it seems like a good idea.

 

[SickAgain]

Let me know how that goes.

 

[Lust]

A very well known pua by the name of "manwh0re (manwh0re.org) as well as jeffie from RSD actually recommends whacking off to the point that your about to come before going out, that it harnesses all that sexual energy without actually releasing it.

Haven't tried it yet but it seems like a good idea.

Yerr, i do something similar.

I recommend watching porn if you're state is really flat. Watching it. Don't whack off and come, because that will lower your sex drive.

Just sit there and watch a porno before you leave, you will reek of sexuality and women will pick up on it.

That being said, I've heard that actually whacking off and blowing your load can have positive effects too. Apparently because your sex drive is lowered, when you're out you are project a less needy, less predatory vibe. I haven't tried that yet and I dunno whether it's true or not but it's worth a mention.

 

[Maxtro]

Being in a sexual state is a very important concept. But it's also very difficult to understand and describe.

Chronocidal, go google Gunwitch Method. That's where the idea of sexual state comes from. It's subcommunicated sexual intent.

LOL at telling him to Google Gunwitch. Gunwitch posted his message on this board, right here

Here are the basic premises

It is VITAL to have the understanding that women (sexually healthy non frigid women) LOVE sex and desire it just as much as we do. YET they cannot come out and admit it or be labelled a slut, AND cannot act on it consistently (outside of long term relationships or with multiple partners) with anyone’s knowledge or be labelled the same far faster.

Your initial state when seeing women you want is very important: the right one will cause you to approach them, the wrong one will panic and confuse you - preventing you from taking any action to ever meet them. If you do not meet them you almost certainly CANNOT have sex with them. Your internal state when you first see an attractive woman must be one of sexual enthusiasm, horniness, and unapologetic desire. NOT one of panic and wonder of what to do or what to say.

When you see them you must imagine having sex with her, visualize it, feel the desire and lust. ALWAYS do this as soon as you see a woman you find attractive and eventually the state you will go into when seeing a woman will be one of –sexual- state, rather than panic or fear of meeting her.

One thing ill mention here. I cannot give you real desire for sex, it must be natural.... A. stop masturbating so much (to increase your drive), B. search yourself to see if you are a real heterosexual, C. maybe consider getting an “arm piece” girlfriend for the social status you desire, D. learn to quench your lusts with sexual gratification rather than keep trying to create envy in others, as you’ll never be convinced you’ve done enough of that. If you want and desire new, exciting, frequent sexual experiences with different fresh women then read on.

It's actually a very long post that I recommend everybody read. It's been several years since I read the whole thing and I'm going to reread it now.

 

[SickAgain]

Ok guys, thanks for hijacking this thread and turning it in a masturbation discussion. This has nothing to do with beating off. It should be a natural and automatic thing when you're talking to a woman to escalate and flirt strongly. Basically get her giggling and thinking about you, and probably about you in bed. At this point she made her decision that she wants to f*ck you. I don't know when but eventually. It's all about avoiding the friend zone, being assertive, avoid being labeled a pansy, and raising her attraction towards you.

 

[Lexington]

I haven't had something like this happen, as I said.



Huh?
Is this about a specific woman or about any and all women? Please check this and compare it to your previous post; I see a contradiction.
What specific sort of "work" is necessary? (I.e. where would I find a good, direct, step-by-step guide to gaining the ability mentioned in the previous post?) I'm seeing you get all metaphorical here and it's not really so helpful. Accomplishing unrelated things has nothing to do with random women walking up and flirting physically nor with all women viewing one as sexually attractive; I can tell you that from experience.

To put it in less metaphorical terms: you gotta be horny. Most guys try to hide their sexuality when interacting with women. The secret of the jerk is that he DOESN'T. He's not afraid to project his sexual intentions. He makes it clear from the get-go that he's not a friend, but a lover.

The typical nice guy exudes no sexual energy so naturally, the girl doesn't see him as boyfriend/hookup material. So, at best he gets a hug and maybe a kiss on the cheek and then he goes home and whacks off while the girl he wants is getting railed by some guy she just met.

Basically, when you want to have sex with a girl, be unapologetic about it. Society has conditioned us to feel guilty about this desire. For God's sake, you're doing something nice for her....heaven forbid you give a girl something so terrible as an orgasm!

When you're talking to her, imagine yourself doing her. Strip her down in your mind. Look her right in the eye. When you're horny, you will subconsciously communicate this through your body language. This in turn will turn her on.

If nothing else, being sexual from the start cuts to the chase. You don't waste time and energy pursuing a girl that isn't in to you that way. Either you bed her, or you get a rejection. If it's the latter, it happens fairly quickly and you can just move on.

It really sucks to invest so much time and energy on a girl, only to get LJBF'd.

 

[Kevin Feng]

I'm a firm believer in what you said above.

I've been working with asian playboy for quite some time now and he's a giant advocate of direct game(stating sexual interest out the gate), the blow outs may be a little harsher but on the same token, when a set hooks, you're already in part D in the ABC's of Attraction stage phase.

It skips a lot of BS, especially for asian guys, it's important to go direct out the gate, indirect game is just harmful for some people.

I'm not saying vintage indirect MM doesn't work but what I am trying to say is that direct game is powerful, Matador is a giant proponent of direct game.

Check the article out below, provides further insight into this post.

http://theasianplayboy.blogspot.com/2006/10/sexual-identity-less-talk-more-sex.html

 

[GQ_Confidence_1]

Two things have been a major game changer for me:

-Better social confidence, social awareness

-Being in a more natural, male state.

Its different than being a jerk, or being someone you're not. I think a lot of guys over do it, trying to be Colin Farrell, or trying to think up c&f routines.

She can tell when you're thinking up a routine. Or looking up in the air for the answer..."well, what should I say to her now".

The problem with the nice guy is that he exudes no energy at all. Just a flat, monotone, hi, how are you, what should we do.

I think in a more natural male state, you have more energy and you're going places. She can tell you're going to go somewhere, and she might want to go with you. Its a more active state. Its more selective. You're judging her and comparing her to other girls.

Its not crude. Its not lewd or disguisting. But it meets her where she is. Why do so many girls run around in short skirts, and tight tops? And the skirts get shorter. And the legs get more toned.

I think in a natural male state, you're not afraid to reject her. You're 100% congruent. You're comparing her to all those other girls out there with short skirts and tight tops. And she's got to come up to par.

And this is all communicated subconsciously through an invisible vibe. I think you'll be seen as much more sexual and much more real. You need your own standards and she needs to come up to them.

Very different IMO than just learning c&f routines or lines. It isnt as congruent.

A sexual state is almost like you're channeling your horniness up through your stomach, into your chest, and you're projecting it onto her. Very powerful if you're sitting close to her on a bench or somewhere else. And if you reach the peak, its like she's in a trance like state. Its all very natural. But most guys have far over analyzed it. Or they try to be someone they're not.

You've got this 6 inch, 7 inch, or bigger "thing", and she's got nothing, how are you suppose to act?

I'm afraid to say, but in this internet, screen generation, guys just don't know how to act horny. And it doesnt matter what girls wear, or how short their skirts are, or how tanned their legs are. Guys are still running back to the internet...."but whats a sexual state"?

 

[edger]

Two things have been a major game changer for me:

-Better social confidence, social awareness

-Being in a more natural, male state.

Its different than being a jerk, or being someone you're not. I think a lot of guys over do it, trying to be Colin Farrell, or trying to think up c&f routines.

She can tell when you're thinking up a routine. Or looking up in the air for the answer..."well, what should I say to her now".

The problem with the nice guy is that he exudes no energy at all. Just a flat, monotone, hi, how are you, what should we do.

I think in a more natural male state, you have more energy and you're going places. She can tell you're going to go somewhere, and she might want to go with you. Its a more active state. Its more selective. You're judging her and comparing her to other girls.

Its not crude. Its not lewd or disguisting. But it meets her where she is. Why do so many girls run around in short skirts, and tight tops? And the skirts get shorter. And the legs get more toned.

I think in a natural male state, you're not afraid to reject her. You're 100% congruent. You're comparing her to all those other girls out there with short skirts and tight tops. And she's got to come up to par.

And this is all communicated subconsciously through an invisible vibe. I think you'll be seen as much more sexual and much more real. You need your own standards and she needs to come up to them.

Very different IMO than just learning c&f routines or lines. It isnt as congruent.

A sexual state is almost like you're channeling your horniness up through your stomach, into your chest, and you're projecting it onto her. Very powerful if you're sitting close to her on a bench or somewhere else. And if you reach the peak, its like she's in a trance like state. Its all very natural. But most guys have far over analyzed it. Or they try to be someone they're not.

You've got this 6 inch, 7 inch, or bigger "thing", and she's got nothing, how are you suppose to act?

I'm afraid to say, but in this internet, screen generation, guys just don't know how to act horny. And it doesnt matter what girls wear, or how short their skirts are, or how tanned their legs are. Guys are still running back to the internet...."but whats a sexual state"?

Good post. It's all about embracing your natural state. If you embrace your "natural state", everything else will follow and you will do well(hopefully) with hot women. As you've said(which I've seen myself), there's too much overanalyzing here....and that's what kills a guys game. Let it flow, let it come out naturally. Embrace yourself, embrace your manhood. And by embracing your manhood, that doesn't mean acting like a wannabe, loser tough guy...it means behaving in a manner what's natural to you as a man.

 

[fertileTurtle]

You're fvcking horny and she knows it and you look in her eyes like "wanna fvck?"