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Rocky times with my girl. Need advice.

deniall

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Below is what happened yesterday. I posted this on another forum and i'm hoping you guys can give me some better advice. I'm going over to my girls house in half an hour to talk about thing's. Any advice on how to handle it would be great.

I hope you guys can help. I have just had a long conversation with my girlfriend and right now I feel like total ****.

We have been together for 6 months. When I first met her I instantly wanted to be with her. She is beautiful, outgoing and lives a healthy lifestyle. She is everything I look for in a woman and I could see myself being with her for the rest of my life.

The last month has been a little rocky, mainly my fault. She is unlike anyone I have ever dated and she has a very strong personality. She is very upfront and crazy and I love that about her. She loves going out and having a good time and I do too but I think she probably likes it more than me.

Anyway, the last few times we have been out I have done some silly things and it's either ended in a bit of a fight or we have left early because I wasn't enjoying myself. I understand she was upset that I cut her night short and that's fine. I could certainly improve in that area and plan to do so. She went away for the weekend to basically party with friends. When she got back I rang her to see how it was. I asked if she had missed me and basically she said no because she was having too much fun. That's fair enough I guess but I suppose I was a bit shocked considering she messages me all the time saying she misses me.

The conversation quickly turned sour when she told me she wasn't happy and hadn't been for the last month. I asked what she wasn't happy about and she told me it was the fact she thinks we don't go out and have fun enough and that we don't interact well together. She is crazy and fun with her friends but with me she is more reserved. I think that's why she feels like we don't interact well.

I told her i'm willing to work on any issue she has but she said she doesn't want me to change because then I would be fake and it wouldn't be fair on me. She also said that she doesn't feel that we should have to work so hard on a relationship and if we were meant to be together things would just click. Basically she said she doesn't love me like she used to although she still cares about me. She also said the spark is gone.

The conversation went on like this for a while and she ended it by saying that I was safe for now but she wasn't sure if we would last much longer.

I was strong during the conversation but now that it's over i'm just numb. This is a total shock to me and I don't know what to think. I'm hoping you guys can give me some advice on what to do. I really love this girl and don't want to lose her. At the same time I don't want to have to change myself or her (she wouldn't change for me anyway) to make it work.
 

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I don't want to be a negative Nancy, but it sounds to me like this relationship is over.

She went away for the weekend??

She didn't miss you because she was having too much fun?

hmm

You keep saying things are "my fault"








The only thing you might be able to do is try to reverse the game on her .... At this point she is in the driver's seat and you are chasing her.

If I were you I would break up with her immediately because she is not being respectful. Stop all communication and act like you dont give a sh1t.

Chances are that she will be in such shock she will run back to you. If that does happen, then I suggest letting your balls hang and take control of the relationship.
 

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Good advice and that's what I plan to do. Leaving in 15 mins, wish me luck!
 
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Deniall, if you're still here I would wait a day or so until you get some more responses up, and so you can assess yourself and the situation better. I would type up a response but fear it would be so lenghty that you're long gone when it's posted.

In short: I think you're too attached to this one and she isn't to you. Probably never was. It's going to be hard to shift the frame onto yourself from such a position, simply because you don't have the detachment to instinctively feel how.

Anyway, good luck.
 

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Party girls are never good for a LTR. They live for "fun" and real life isn't always fun. If you are looking for marriage and kids-you don't go out with little kids, the 630 wake up is no fun with a hangover.

You didn't list her age,might be helpful in the discussion.
 

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It's over.



Cheers!
 

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deniall said:
Anyway, the last few times we have been out I have done some silly things and it's either ended in a bit of a fight or we have left early because I wasn't enjoying myself.
What "things"? If you're bummed out around her friends all the time, then yeah, I can see where she'd get tired of you. I sure as hell would. And I've been on BOTH sides of that. I HAVE gotten tired of hanging out with girls' friends. But usually when I did, I knew that it was pretty much time to move on anyway.

I understand she was upset that I cut her night short and that's fine. I could certainly improve in that area and plan to do so. She went away for the weekend to basically party with friends. When she got back I rang her to see how it was. I asked if she had missed me and basically she said no because she was having too much fun. That's fair enough I guess but I suppose I was a bit shocked considering she messages me all the time saying she misses me.
Cut her loose then. Stop being so damned selfish. If you don't click with her, then you don't click with her.

Look at you, "Did you miss me baby?" Yeah, that's what she wants to hear after coming back from a wild week away.

The conversation quickly turned sour when she told me she wasn't happy and hadn't been for the last month. I asked what she wasn't happy about and she told me it was the fact she thinks we don't go out and have fun enough and that we don't interact well together. She is crazy and fun with her friends but with me she is more reserved. I think that's why she feels like we don't interact well.

I told her i'm willing to work on any issue she has
Are you really? Do you WANT to be more outgoing and "crazy"? Or do you just want HER to see you that way?

That's the problem...you see it as "her" issue. There's an obvious incompatibility here, and both of you are ignoring it, or blaming it on the other person and hoping the other will eventually "come around".

She probably put up with it at first because she was waiting to see if you would open up as you got used to her friends. I'm like that...I'm very quiet at first, but once I learn I can trust you with the full brunt of my insanity, you feel it very quickly. :whistle:

but she said she doesn't want me to change because then I would be fake
YES!

and it wouldn't be fair on me. She also said that she doesn't feel that we should have to work so hard on a relationship and if we were meant to be together things would just click.
YES!! Why can't *I* meet women who think like this??

Basically she said she doesn't love me like she used to although she still cares about me. She also said the spark is gone.

The conversation went on like this for a while and she ended it by saying that I was safe for now but she wasn't sure if we would last much longer.
SAFE FOR NOW?? Is that what you want? A nice, SAFE relationship? Aww...grow up.

I was strong during the conversation but now that it's over i'm just numb. This is a total shock to me and I don't know what to think.
Good. Maybe that's what you need.

I'm hoping you guys can give me some advice on what to do. I really love this girl and don't want to lose her. At the same time I don't want to have to change myself or her (she wouldn't change for me anyway) to make it work.
This is an interesting phenomenon. I wonder if you really "love" this girl, or whether you've just become so USED to her that you don't like the idea of the change that living without her would bring.

"I love you, but..." is the symbol of our generation. To my ears, it's the same as someone saying "I'm not racist, but..." followed by a comment so obviously racist that it can't be negated by the prefixing phrase.

I don't think you know what "love" is, personally.

This reminds me of a couple I know of that's been married about 30 years now. The man was always a "life of the party" type of person. The woman was more shy and nervous around people. The difference is that she WANTED to be the life of the party, and has slowly, over the years, opened up a great deal.

Is that what you see in this woman? Do you see in her what you would LIKE to be?

If not, if her socialite personality REALLY grates on you, for a reason other than admiration and a slight twinge of envy, then is this REALLY the girl you want to be with?

If her socialite personality represents something YOU admire and would like to emulate...then what are YOU going to do about it?
 

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It's over guys, thanks for the help.

Basically I went over there and was calm and collected.

I told her that she would always need to work on relationships no matter who she was with. I also told her that I will not give her time to think things through while i'm left in the dark.

We talked for a good hour and half but her feeling was the same. She cares for me a great deal but has fallen out of love with me. She thinks i'm great and wants to be friends. I told her i'm not willing to be friends with her as it makes thing's too hard and that was that. She was awfully upset but I suppose that's to be expected. I'm proud of myself that I didn't get sooky and try to talk her out of it. Lets just see if she regrets her decision. I will be fine either way.
 

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You like her more than she likes you... and that has turned her off... she has started interviewing other prospects so her patience with you will get sorter and shorter...

YOU NEED TO EXIT NOW!!!!!! Do not give her a reason... Just dump her... you will save yourself much pain suffering and ego hurt if you do this...

Or compound the dysfunction by sticking around and trying to "make it work" and tell us what happens...
 

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Deniall, Now is the time to work on your After Action plan.
Good luck.
 

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I think you did the right thing.

It's also always interesting to see the responses from people who clearly did not read the whole thread before posting.
 

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DonGorgon said:
You like her more than she likes you... and that has turned her off... she has started interviewing other prospects so her patience with you will get sorter and shorter...
The thing is though she was the one who told me she loved me first. I think she falls in love way too easily. Within a week she said she loved me. You guys don't understand how out of the blue this was. We have had only a couple of fights in the 6 months we were together and we worked all of them out immediately. The day she left to go away she was at my place in the morning. I left for work before her and when I got home she had left a note on my bed saying "i love you so much, dont worry i will be back before you know it xoxoxoxox". Then as soon as she gets back she springs this **** on me. Shocked is not the right word to describe how I felt.

Any tips on working on an after action plan?
 

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What do you mean by "after action" plan? Is it over with you two or not?
Has she decided to move on? Believe it or not,this CAN be turned around.
Obviously,you want to date this girl. That's where you want to go,but first we have to figure out where you ARE. So,what's currently going on between the two of you? The last time you talked to her,what was the conversation like,and do the two of you have plans to talk or meet up together in the future?
 

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What I mean is what is he going to do to take care of his mental and emotional well being now that it's over. He has to reflect on what went wrong and how to correct any future interactions and relationship issues.
What kind of hobbies and things is he planning to do? Reading and meditation, martial arts, that kind of thing.
 

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Basically we broke up and she wanted to stay friends. I told her I cant be friends with her and I was going to cut all ties. I deleted her number and got rid of everything I have to do with her. I dont plan to see or make contact with her unless she is certain she wants us to be together.
 

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Interceptor said:
What I mean is what is he going to do to take care of his mental and emotional well being now that it's over. He has to reflect on what went wrong and how to correct any future interactions and relationship issues.
What kind of hobbies and things is he planning to do? Reading and meditation, martial arts, that kind of thing.
I train at the gym and have a full time job so I can keep myself busy. Im currently bulking so im going to focus on that and try to reach my goal of 10kg's in 3 months.
 

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Interceptor said:
What I mean is what is he going to do to take care of his mental and emotional well being now that it's over. He has to reflect on what went wrong and how to correct any future interactions and relationship issues.
What kind of hobbies and things is he planning to do? Reading and meditation, martial arts, that kind of thing.
Hey man,Interceptor's right. I see what he means about taking care of yourself mentally and emotionally. I just never heard of the term "after action plan" before. I agree with you wanting to cut all ties with this girl,too.
I couldn't be "just friends" with a girl who after dating her for 6,7,or 8 months or longer dumped me. To me,just being in her presense,hearing her laugh,seeing her beauty,her trying to hug me or touch me in someway would only be a constant reminder of the rejection. I've been there,it sucks dude.
Well,good luck man. There's a lot of good info here and many,many of the posters here are cool people who'll help you out if you have any other questions or comments. Also,I'm sure have some knowledge that might benefit some of us here as well. Peace man.
 

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Thanks guys I really appreciate the support. Without this forum I would be a mess. I'm holding it together but just barely. I removed every bit of information I have about her from my life (including facebook, phone no etc) and am sticking to my guns on the no contact thing. My biggest problem at the moment is that i'm constantly thinking about what I have lost. To me she was perfect, we trained together, got along great, she was gorgeous and I will really miss her. I just cant see myself going back to being single at this stage. Man I sound like a ***** but its how I feel.
 

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deniall said:
Thanks guys I really appreciate the support. Without this forum I would be a mess. I'm holding it together but just barely. I removed every bit of information I have about her from my life (including facebook, phone no etc) and am sticking to my guns on the no contact thing. My biggest problem at the moment is that i'm constantly thinking about what I have lost. To me she was perfect, we trained together, got along great, she was gorgeous and I will really miss her. I just cant see myself going back to being single at this stage. Man I sound like a ***** but its how I feel.
I've been in your exact shoes man. It's what SHE lost. You will look back on this time in 6-12 months, and realize how much you've grown. This forum really helped me. Take some time, make new friends and have fun. Then start working on yourself and get back in the game.
 
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