everywomanshero
Master Don Juan
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One observation made within and about the 'PU community' is that people who gravitate to it are often looking for quick fixes.
What tends to happen is that they just look at what someone else is doing and try to do the exact same thing, often without critical thinking or understanding of the context in which things are occuring. When I am out and about or even listening to certain radio shows, it's envitable that one of these guys will be overheaard or call in and verbatim recite lines from Double your dating or something similar. And bear in mind I haven't listened to most PU "systems", but it's very obvious to me when someone is mindlessly reciting something that is rehearsed because it often doesn't make much sense in the context it's being used in.
There is a danger that the same thing can happen here too:
"Action dates, that's what I need...I'll take every first date to the amusement park but wait that conflicts with an earlier rule that I'll be unpredictable, sh1t, what do I do now, ugggggggh what's the rule for this???"
"Women like jerks, this chic is being really nice and is in deep rapport, I know what to do, I'll be a jerk then she'll be REALLY into me, right?"
Then there are goals. What are the goals of someone wanting to be a PUA? Hopefully they are to be a social, fun guy who through having a really cool life attracts hoardes of women and shoots down the less desirable of the bunch. Notice in the VAH there is a WHOLE section about having a balanced life and goals towards self-actualization, and a section on identity to find out who you really are and how others perceive you. I wonder how many guys skip right past that to get to "the good stuff".
In practice, it's more like to end up being a guy who is obsessed with "getting points", having a great time not for its own sake but to create some bada$$ field report or to keep track of scores, etc.
The problem with something like this is, as a PUA would say, the woman has became the prize. The guy isn't focusing on anything about himself other than solely how to get approval from women. The sad part is, while this can seem to work in some limited fashion, a man who builds a really great life will have woimen trying to pick him up. He will just make casual conversation and women will be into him. I am not anti-DJ or anti-PUA, I think it's all great and it has helped me a lot. What I do believe though is that each and every person out there should have goals that are way higher than any of this stuff. OTOH, having higher goals shouldn't be an excuse not to go out either. A balanced life should allow for a man to go out and socialize on a regular basis. Malls are filled with women, bars are filled with womem, clubs are filled with women, classes are filled with women... Women are one of the most abundant resources in the world. Theya re literally everywhere, so there is never an excuse not to have time to meet attractive women.
What tends to happen is that they just look at what someone else is doing and try to do the exact same thing, often without critical thinking or understanding of the context in which things are occuring. When I am out and about or even listening to certain radio shows, it's envitable that one of these guys will be overheaard or call in and verbatim recite lines from Double your dating or something similar. And bear in mind I haven't listened to most PU "systems", but it's very obvious to me when someone is mindlessly reciting something that is rehearsed because it often doesn't make much sense in the context it's being used in.
There is a danger that the same thing can happen here too:
"Action dates, that's what I need...I'll take every first date to the amusement park but wait that conflicts with an earlier rule that I'll be unpredictable, sh1t, what do I do now, ugggggggh what's the rule for this???"
"Women like jerks, this chic is being really nice and is in deep rapport, I know what to do, I'll be a jerk then she'll be REALLY into me, right?"
Then there are goals. What are the goals of someone wanting to be a PUA? Hopefully they are to be a social, fun guy who through having a really cool life attracts hoardes of women and shoots down the less desirable of the bunch. Notice in the VAH there is a WHOLE section about having a balanced life and goals towards self-actualization, and a section on identity to find out who you really are and how others perceive you. I wonder how many guys skip right past that to get to "the good stuff".
In practice, it's more like to end up being a guy who is obsessed with "getting points", having a great time not for its own sake but to create some bada$$ field report or to keep track of scores, etc.
The problem with something like this is, as a PUA would say, the woman has became the prize. The guy isn't focusing on anything about himself other than solely how to get approval from women. The sad part is, while this can seem to work in some limited fashion, a man who builds a really great life will have woimen trying to pick him up. He will just make casual conversation and women will be into him. I am not anti-DJ or anti-PUA, I think it's all great and it has helped me a lot. What I do believe though is that each and every person out there should have goals that are way higher than any of this stuff. OTOH, having higher goals shouldn't be an excuse not to go out either. A balanced life should allow for a man to go out and socialize on a regular basis. Malls are filled with women, bars are filled with womem, clubs are filled with women, classes are filled with women... Women are one of the most abundant resources in the world. Theya re literally everywhere, so there is never an excuse not to have time to meet attractive women.
