Risk

[ManlyMan]

it's ok too play it smart. However you should not be fearful. It is a destructive emotion.

I think it is natural as you age to play it wiser. When it stops you from getting better for something you are passionate about and it will for a fact improve your life. Than it is a problem.

 

[SargeMaximus]

At 35, I've become a lot more risk averse. I tend to calculate every possible outcome of a situation and decide what my exit plan is. Essentially it's almost a tenant of stoicism, I imagine the worst possible scenario and visualize experiencing that, and let that guide my actions to avoid that situation.

It's not due to fear, but due to experience teaching me how wrong things can quickly get if one doesn't plan/anticipate it. I did some dumb, dumb **** when I was younger and these days I wouldn't repeat those things.

I hear that

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Nothing like being a just divorced middle agrd guy to really see risk taking. I partiied like a rock star. Rawdogged so many girls. Drank like a maniac.
One night. My teen GF & I were drinking & screwing in s motel on El Camino. After, she wanted to go tp Best Buy & get a nee console game. I was wasted. So I let her, drunk, 19 and with no license, drive us to Best Buy to get her console game.
I have a very high risk tolerance. My current GF keeps me in check as she goes ape shvt if I do anything dangerous. I free climb, do river rafting…. I was an outdoor Adventure guide and an infantryman. So I don’t mind riks. God has been kind to me.

 

[Fruitbat]

Nothing about that was funny. See real tough guys don't joke about physical violence.. I mean try saying something like that to someone in Brooklyn or Chicago (2 places that made me who I am today) and you'll quickly realize how not funny it is.

But, it's okay. I understand. You mentioned alot of sh.t happened to you in your thirties, and that you have some PTSD -- so I understand it might have something to do with you getting all defensive over a statement that I made in seriousness, more than it just 'sounding' funny.

Reason being, I've dealt with alot of trauma myself but I powered through it. Ofc, my trauma came as a result of being involved in the drug game and street life for a good chunk of my life. Your situation may be different but trauma definitely has a huge affect on how we operate. It's actually what got me more into psychology, besides meeting and trying to understand alot of people with unique circumstances better.

On the contrary Sir, I was a member of the Berkshire massive. In fact I was in a set called the Huntingdon Stanley crew, the most bad ass set in England.

we did it all - stealing from Mr Morris’s corner shop, drive by eggings of rival crews, none of us ever got caught by the police and we never even got reported to our mums either.

I know all about the street life and it would make downtown Chicago look like Sesame Street. You don’t want to cruise down Huntington, Farringdon, Tarrington St Clement or Pinchbeck with that attitude of youd find yourself egged up pretty bad.

 

[Ricky]

Yeah the last couple years kind of ****ed me over. I screwed up my marriage for one

 

[jaygreenb]

I’ve noted as I get older, my perception of risk has changed a lot.

when I was younger, I drunk/drug drived, I banged hats off. I always had this general feeling it would be alright.

Now, I am always scanning risks. I won’t touch a car if any alcohol in system. I worry a lot.

My test is good at 690.

I had a very bad few years in 30s where everything went wrong. I wonder - is my increased fear and worry a result of this (kinda like PTSD) or, is this simply getting older.

Also, I’ve also thought now I have things to lose. Family and career. At 20 I could always start afresh.

However I have friends the same age who still have this “it will be fine” attitude. I recently learned my friend who’s a taxi driver was an alcoholic for 15 years. I would be in a constant state of panic if I was doing that!

Anyone else notice their risk appetite decreasing as they age?

Maybe I am way off on this, but remember you saying a while back your wife constantly puts you down and tells you that you aren't achieving enough. From short relationships I have had like this in the past, it starts to chip away at your confidence and belief in yourself. It can really mess with you mentally, have to be careful what type of messages you repeatedly take in, even when they are not true.

 

[The Duke]

I've wrecked cars,wrecked motorcycles, wrecked racecars, outran the cops many times. Always excessive speed. Dated $trippers/crazies, banged lots of girls, had 3 concussions, broken several bones, bucked off horses, had a really bad motorcycle wreck that kept me in physical therapy for 3days a week for a year, gone 176mph down a busy freeway, used to get a speeding ticket every 2-3months, every vehicle I've owned was built to go fast. Speed and power have been my drugs of choice.

Ive slowed way down. I don't take near the risks I used to. I've experienced the consequences of failure. I don't mind death, but I don't like living in pain anymore than I need to. The pain is a constant reminder. When you have looked the devil in the eye and laughed in his face, cheated death a few times, saw God during one wreck, it's time to dial it back some. I had a damn good time.
A few failed relationships have slowed me down as well.

I think it's normal for those who have done some some living to be a little more cautious as we age. It didn't hit me until I was 43.

 

[Westminster]

On the contrary Sir, I was a member of the Berkshire massive. In fact I was in a set called the Huntingdon Stanley crew, the most bad ass set in England.

we did it all - stealing from Mr Morris’s corner shop, drive by eggings of rival crews, none of us ever got caught by the police and we never even got reported to our mums either.

I know all about the street life and it would make downtown Chicago look like Sesame Street. You don’t want to cruise down Huntington, Farringdon, Tarrington St Clement or Pinchbeck with that attitude of youd find yourself egged up pretty bad.

 

[Learning Curve]

I’ve noted as I get older, my perception of risk has changed a lot.

when I was younger, I drunk/drug drived, I banged hats off. I always had this general feeling it would be alright.

Now, I am always scanning risks. I won’t touch a car if any alcohol in system. I worry a lot.

My test is good at 690.

I had a very bad few years in 30s where everything went wrong. I wonder - is my increased fear and worry a result of this (kinda like PTSD) or, is this simply getting older.

Also, I’ve also thought now I have things to lose. Family and career. At 20 I could always start afresh.

However I have friends the same age who still have this “it will be fine” attitude. I recently learned my friend who’s a taxi driver was an alcoholic for 15 years. I would be in a constant state of panic if I was doing that!

Anyone else notice their risk appetite decreasing as they age?

It's more to the extent of personality and choices rather than age.

I have been risk careful since i was in my 20s and now at my early 30s i have no tolerance of ****1ing up for no reason or getting drunk like a clown and running around destroying my health since i hit the gym 3 times a week and look good.

It's about choices. I could very easily drive drunk, f1uck any chick i land onto and just have a life of "fun" as they call it or they think is fun.

Have a choice to have a balanced life no matter your age.

It's about having your brain always in a good state.

You could very easily be in your 50s get drunk all day, f1uck escorts and just be a mess. What does it matter? It's about you choosing your life your pathways and your circumstances to be the best version of you.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

Stock market me too. What you like atm? I sold half my shares in a coal company that 100% for me so now it’s in a free ride recently

I only buy into silver

 

[SargeMaximus]

I only buy into silver

Platinum is more scarce than silver

 

[jaygreenb]

Platinum is more scarce than silver

I imagine silver is used a lot more in products though. I have both

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

Platinum is more scarce than silver

Thing is, silver is mainly mined in countries that are going to likely experience border disputes in the future, for example Peru and Ecuador had minor disputes up until 1998, even though its very unlikely, if war does break out between the 2, Peru will likely stall in exports of silver, Peru being the world's biggest producer currently. Even conflicts in the surrounding countries will likely stall exports, meaning major price hikes for a small window of time.

Dont mean to plot my fortune off the misfortune of others but if it does ever happen I'm ready

 

[SargeMaximus]

Thing is, silver is mainly mined in countries that are going to likely experience border disputes in the future, for example Peru and Ecuador had minor disputes up until 1998, even though its very unlikely, if war does break out between the 2, Peru will likely stall in exports of silver, Peru being the world's biggest producer currently. Even conflicts in the surrounding countries will likely stall exports, meaning major price hikes for a small window of time.

Dont mean to plot my fortune off the misfortune of others but if it does ever happen I'm ready

Fair enough. I just see silver as a distraction but i do have both, and many commodities. Including uranium.

 

[jaygreenb]

Thing is, silver is mainly mined in countries that are going to likely experience border disputes in the future, for example Peru and Ecuador had minor disputes up until 1998, even though its very unlikely, if war does break out between the 2, Peru will likely stall in exports of silver, Peru being the world's biggest producer currently. Even conflicts in the surrounding countries will likely stall exports, meaning major price hikes for a small window of time.

Dont mean to plot my fortune off the misfortune of others but if it does ever happen I'm ready

Correct me if I am wrong, but i believe there are very few mines directly for silver and it is usually mined as a secondary to another metal being mined.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

Correct me if I am wrong, but i believe there are very few mines directly for silver and it is usually mined as a secondary to another metal being mined.

Yup, it's all about the infrastructure set up vs. Quality of resource which is why a constraint window will be so profitable

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I’ve noted as I get older, my perception of risk has changed a lot.

when I was younger, I drunk/drug drived, I banged hats off. I always had this general feeling it would be alright.

Now, I am always scanning risks. I won’t touch a car if any alcohol in system. I worry a lot.

My test is good at 690.

I had a very bad few years in 30s where everything went wrong. I wonder - is my increased fear and worry a result of this (kinda like PTSD) or, is this simply getting older.

Also, I’ve also thought now I have things to lose. Family and career. At 20 I could always start afresh.

However I have friends the same age who still have this “it will be fine” attitude. I recently learned my friend who’s a taxi driver was an alcoholic for 15 years. I would be in a constant state of panic if I was doing that!

Anyone else notice their risk appetite decreasing as they age?

I actually find myself taking more risks as I get older. Several examples:

-raw dogging/nutting almost every new women I'm with
-driving: speeding, expired tabs, while intoxicated, passing cops
-getting into motorcycling. Literally showed up at dealer with 0.0 hrs of experience and rode the bike right off the light into heavy traffic and learned as I went.
-online poker and crypto trading.
-never following a single C19 protocol since they started in 2020
-outdoors: getting into rock climbing; I take more risks with hiking too, I'll rush down rocky cliff paths, across streams, climb up random trees, etc. I even went on a remote solo hike a while back that was 9 miles with difficult terrain and 500m elevation gain. Only brought 2L of water, had no emergency equipment, and did zero planning.



I think risk aversion is cowardly. Life is not worth living without risk. In fact, not taking risks can be risky to success and detrimental to a good life. That said, I definitely take it too far on the other side.

I'm actually a fairly neurotic person, so I would suspect Test is the bigger factor. Test is strongly correlated with risk taking (and spice tolerance). I would get a full hormone panel if I were you. Total testosterone doesn't tell you much of anything.

 

[Deranged]

Wow, where's the "and water is wet" comment? As you age you take less risk. This is not new, its engrained into your genetics. You can try and fight it with ignorance, but your biology will always win. At the end of the day, play the game your way and derive as much enjoyment from it as possible. I wish you happiness. But this thread is just a bunch of humble brag, self slow stroke anecdotes. I expect more from the mature audience here. Are you/we reaching for content? looking for attention? feeding a fragile ego?

 

[honeybadger]

Nope, not taking less risks during my maturing in life. I would say it might be just the opposite at least in some cases. I am just more calm, more experienced, but still want to bite the bear's a$$ off multiple days a week.

 

[SpartanWarrior77]

I’ve noted as I get older, my perception of risk has changed a lot.

when I was younger, I drunk/drug drived, I banged hats off. I always had this general feeling it would be alright.

Now, I am always scanning risks. I won’t touch a car if any alcohol in system. I worry a lot.

My test is good at 690.

I had a very bad few years in 30s where everything went wrong. I wonder - is my increased fear and worry a result of this (kinda like PTSD) or, is this simply getting older.

Also, I’ve also thought now I have things to lose. Family and career. At 20 I could always start afresh.

However I have friends the same age who still have this “it will be fine” attitude. I recently learned my friend who’s a taxi driver was an alcoholic for 15 years. I would be in a constant state of panic if I was doing that!

Anyone else notice their risk appetite decreasing as they age?

Its funny u mention ur taxi driver friend. I have friends like that too that are in their mid 30s and totally coasting. Granted, there is some mediocrity to them that I wouldnt ever wish to embody (bad physcial shap, alcoholism, lower standards with women) but sometime I do envy that carefree attitude. My theory is that it has to do with your potential. For instance, I'm a pretty solid package when it comes to women so I know that if I play my cards right I could be living it up with the baddies. Some dudes give up before they even went on the battlefield, likely due to how they percieve themselves, possibly they dont see anything great in themselves and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

Curious as to what went wrong in your 30s, love hearing tragedy stories and how guys delt with it and came back stronger.

Im 28 and my entire 20s have been a gigantic battle against self sabotage and the creeping forces of instant gratification. I'm still fighting hard. Got up at 430AM today, worked out, trying to get back into nofap, etc.

My friends regard me as paranoid and neurotic but I never take it too seriously. As far as I'm concerned, you have to be paranoid to win. Otherwise the enemy will scalp you.

It's good to worry but not be a b1tch about it though. I'll still smoke a cig here and there or have a few too many drinks. It's good to embrace your Dyonesian side a bit too.