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picard said:
I have notice a sharp rise in single women having kids. These women aren't divorced moms either nor in lesbian relationship.

They are uneducated and work in menial jobs yet they have 1-4 kids.

how the hell do they get the money to raise 4kids with no education? I assume the women rely on generosity of their boyfriends.

WTF ? have the parents of these women taught them the wrong lesson in life?

This is why the dems want universal health care and other socialist programs that support their inability to provide for themselves and have families on their own. Paid maternity leave is another example. Just you watch. When it comes time for all these things to be applied to both genders, when men start using surrogates (or one day artificial wombs), the whole system will implode.

Also, this is why we'll all be paying upwards of 50-60% taxes in the US eventually. Women want to have their cake and eat it too. The only way they can do that without dual breadwinners is to shift the burden over to the taxpayers.
 

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If you want doom and gloom, it will never disappoint.

Guys, there is indeed a ton of bs going on now with the dems trying to socialize America. Am I worried? Hell no.

As a Libertarian, I despise both major parties. But when choosing the lesser of two evils, the Republicans will receive my (unenthusiastic) endorsement.

Do you realize that a Republican just got elected in MARXachusettes, USSA?

The American public is waking up to what they have been sold, they don't like the way the dems are trying to take our country, and 2012 belongs to the Republicans.

LONG LIVE OLD GLORY
 

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Also, this is why we'll all be paying upwards of 50-60% taxes in the US eventually. Women want to have their cake and eat it too. The only way they can do that without dual breadwinners is to shift the burden over to the taxpayers.

Women shifting the burden to tax payers? are you fvcking off your rocker? Seriously, some people on this forum have a serious "conspiracy theory" thing going that is utterly asinine.

FWIW someone already shifted their burden to tax payers ,and they are called investment banks/ hedge funds. Most of those people were men.

The American public is waking up to what they have been sold, they don't like the way the dems are trying to take our country, and 2012 belongs to the Republicans.

Well the dems still have the majority in the senate. I wouldn't really call this much of a power shift as much of a new media frenzy to try and grab ratings. Also, MA had it coming. Taxachuessets was miserable trying to make a living- you were required to have insurance, pay ridiculous excise tax and tolls, not to mention the income tax is one of the highest in the States. As much as I miss beantown - F** MA.
 

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Again, no one here discusses the root of the problem. Everyone just complains about the effects (men end up footing the bill)

Ask yourselves this question: 'Why is there a rise in single women with kids?'

The simple answer is that men have allowed it.

Even several generations ago, being pregnant before being married was seen as a big disgrace by society (read: men). In fact, if a girl even slept around she would be degraded by others. In short, men kept girls in check, and girls were afraid to lose their value in the sexual marketplace.

But again, the same recurring theme keeps coming up. Guys lead, girls follow. Once guys started to *tolerate* sluts and loose girls just so they could get a piece of the *action*, girls soon realized it was acceptable to slut around. Hence the rise in single women with kids.

Us men created this mess ourselves.

Shut up and own it.

Shut and own it. No. I don't think so. In fact I reject that line of your statement. If men in the past created this, then its the men of now who reap it. You can't tell some 15 year old kid to shut up and own it. Or some 30 year old. We are the generation born into this. We are the generations who realized that this isn't working, and we are the generation of men who are slow beginning to do something about it. But we are not the generation who allowed it. Not most of us anyway. It's unfair to those born under the rule of feminism to have to own the mistakes of previous generations. I don't know about you, but I wasn't there for woodstock and women's lib. I was ****ting my diapers. So no I won't own what I didn't do. I will own what I do from this point on.
 

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Women, can't be brainwashed. They're fearless. They become More fearless when us men fall into a fearful trance. When the water's polluted, you go back to the source. Draw some fresh water. Before you swing a samurai sword, you have to say, "Hay-yah!" When you keep things simple, you achieve simple objectives. Victims don't have power. They have zero. That's why they're victims. Energy's gotta flow. You'll probably never tame a white tiger, cause no one ever has. If you can't control the energy, you might as well direct in a way that it's useful to you, on down the road. The crown's about money. In 4000 years China has never invaded India. They have the longest border in the world. Don't look at what they say, look at what really happens. The greatest weapon you have is the will to use a weapon. I want you to understand bottled lightning, honing a sickle. The crown is an institution that is feared, but everything has it's time, it's place, it's destiny. You have to do the impossible. That energy's gonna flow eventually. It's gotta go somewhere. I'm trying to give you an idea of what other people around the world are looking at. You're only looking at the world through your perspective. You're in an unquantifiable scenario. You don't know anything. You don't know it until it's over with. Before you swing a samurai sword you have to say, "Hay-yah." Don't think in terms, of, "all hope is lost, I am a victim," because you're not a victim. You're nowhere close to victim. Victims don't have any power. You have power; therefore, you are not a victim. We must have a consistent thought process in motion. If you have a consistent thought process in motion well your ability to reason is always there. You can square up and analyze things. If it's the end of the world, it's the end of the world. You can't control that. But you can control what you do, how you prepare, whatever.
 

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synergy1 said:
Also, this is why we'll all be paying upwards of 50-60% taxes in the US eventually. Women want to have their cake and eat it too. The only way they can do that without dual breadwinners is to shift the burden over to the taxpayers.

Women shifting the burden to tax payers? are you fvcking off your rocker? Seriously, some people on this forum have a serious "conspiracy theory" thing going that is utterly asinine.
Really? You can't see the writing on the wall? Feminists feed women this lie that they can have it all. That's why "grrrl power" still persists--women are still lied to that they can "have it all".

Well no, sorry, life doesn't work that way. But the hard core feminists believe they can. And if they can't they make laws so they can. We're seeing this in the UK and mainland Europe where socialism is in full effect. If you want your nationalized healthcare, if you want your paid 39 weeks of maternity leave, if you want all these social reforms so WOMEN can have babies and the govt subsidizes their choices in life, then WE the taxpayers are going to be paying for it. You know how? Taxes. I for one do not want the 50-60% tax rates that it takes to prop up such a system. Furthermore, every single world empire that has embraced this kind of feminized socialism has fallen. There's strong historical trends that indicates feminization precedes an implosion of the system. And it'll happen even faster if men get in on the action. Right now in the UK businesses are hesitant to hire women because of the liability they impose. If men bring the same liability by getting equal paternity leave then the businesses will collapse. That's where this is all heading if we keep on track. Also, what happens when men start getting in on the action of having kids without women in their lives by bypassing American women using foreign surrogates (or in the future artificial wombs)? It's already starting to happen! This is the result of feminism driving a wedge between the genders by giving women unrealistic expectations. Plus the legal landscape from decades of misandry makes having serious relationships with women a liability now.

To women that may read this, if you want to have it all then you need to take responsibility for yourself and your actions. If that means not having a kid until you're 33 when you have a good paying job and can afford it, then so be it. If that means settling down in your early 20s to have a bunch of kids and letting the husband be the provider, then so be it. If you want to have it all, then realize it's too late to have a family because men don't want the village bicycle and your body isn't fertile, well, that's the result of your own behavior and actions and nobody is to blame but yourself. However, feminism is trying to fix this little problem so they'll be able to have a kid and still work due to things like paid maternity leave, and in many cases subsidized child care--all mandated by the govt of course. Guess who's going to be paying for all those socialism programs? The taxpayers, that's who. Now guess how they'll be paying for those programs? That's right, higher taxes. UK, Sweden, et al are windows into America's future wrt feminism's influence on govt policy.

Ladies, nobody said life was fair or easy, and no you are not entitled to anything but the PURSUIT of happiness. Feminism has entrenched the idea in women's minds that they can have it all, that they deserve to have it all. The reality is you only deserve to get what you work for. Relying on handouts from the govt to subsidize your life's choices with regards to your brave new world mating strategies is, shall we say, unrealistic and completely unacceptable in my book.
 

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Danger said:
Welcome to the Libertarian party.

Great fvcking post.
Is it Libertarian to not want to be a socialist? Is that what this country has come to? (not to imply there's anything wrong with being a Libertarian party member)
 

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Annually, we spend 500 billion on defense, 140 billion on the war , and 360 billion USD on welfare which includes unemployment during one of the worst recessions in history. .

Your long winded post was bereft of facts and chock full of paranoia. I can only assume you were joking!
 

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bro, that's how America is run period...it has nothing to do with the feminists, and everything to do with political agendas. I don't want this to degenerate into a political flamefest, but ****ing deal with it and stop whining. Believe it or not, some people lose their jobs and rely on these social services just to put food on the table, pay for rent and otherwise. I don't like the idea of single irresponsible mothers, deadbeat fathers, or even fatties who run up health care premiums as much as the next guy, but I don't make it a priority to constantly ***** and moan about them. I put the energy into making my first million and retiring in peace.

I swear some posters here are too "black and white" with their thinking, and are generally misinformed. People in America have it great, yet we ***** and whine more than anyone else. Look at the people in Haiti, or Africa and tell me your life is really that bad.
 

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Actually unemployment is contingent upon what you earn, so basically its a system you pay into and you can fall back upon if needed. This last may, I needed unemployment when I lost my job and scrambled to find a new one. The system essentially left the local economy unchanged despite a drastic change of events...I paid rent on time, kept buying groceries and cut back on anything else. Did you ever think that maybe these systems were put in place for the welfare of the nation, and not to cater to the slackers which will always exist no matter what?

Am I okay with people who leach on the system and suck up tax payers money to sit on their asses? fvck no. Am I okay with parts of the system that help hard working younger people stay afloat when **** hits the fan? you better believe it. Not everyone is as well off as you, but still contributes significantly to the well being of this economy. Maybe you should look beyond your own needs for a change and realize that we are all in this together.

Oh and feminists have political agendas, so your argument that it "has nothing to do with feminists" is inherently wrong.

So do Investment bankers, minority groups, defense contractors, educational systems. what is your point? everyone has an agenda. Does it really bother you this much? Sucks to be you.
 

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Danger said:
People think that poverty is something that can be stopped, but it can't. It will ALWAYS exst.

I do agree with helping the less fortunate, I just don't agree that my money should be taken by the point of a gun to do it.

Agreed. I'm down with making it possible for people to survive in hard times, but not much more, and the reality is even if it's POSSIBLE to survive a certain number just will not. Trying to ensure anything else is futile and a huge waste of resources.

For an idea of what "to survive" means, every American citizen should be required to live for 3 weeks in a village in Cambodia. The reality will hit home that 95% of what we think of as "needs" are in fact luxuries, luxuries we have made so common we think we need them. Folks, hot showers are a luxury. Cars are luxury items. Hell, candy is a luxury item.

If one wants to live better, they need to support that on their own back.
 

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Up to a VERY low point, after which it caps off.
true, but if you were earning what I was, it was the most the state allowed anyway ;) Either way, I paid into the system which eventually kept me on my feet long enough to find more work. To that end it was successful.

I have not always been well off, but I wasn't pulling money out of the system to get by. If you want more of something, subsidize it. That is the number one rule of economics.

Basically it comes down to the average American wanting a hand out without putting effort into it. I said it in another thread: everyone wants a piece of the action. The average American assumes no personal responsibility for their actions it seems.

we may even end up subsidizing health care

I wish we would focus our attention on fixing our horribly broken system rather than paying for every fat persons problems. This is a big issue to me, and may eventually mean leaving this country.

To sum up, I think we agree on the premise. Feminists represent a small portion of the people lobbying their own agendas. God knows I'd love to lobby for additional government spending in my field.....buuuuuuuut that ain't happening :(
 

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When I was starting my office,I would eat chicken noodle soup and crackers-about a 37 cent meal back then. I ate it so often I had to quit because I started GAGGING on it. Meanwhile, a welfare mom came in for some dental work-free for her,40% fee discount for me[great how the state balances their budget on my office][now they are all whining because no Dentist takes medicaid]. We were talking, she'd stopped at the fish truck that stopped in town. SHE only buys Orange Roughy at $5 a lb,WTF is wrong with this picture-they should be able to afford hamburger and beans,if they get sick of eating it-get an education and get a job.
 

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Well, If the libertarians had a chance in hell, I'd help them,but I donate money to conservative politicians-ie not willing to further the role of government intrusions into our lives. Just donated to the person running against Pelosi[sp-I don't like her enough to know how to spell it,]
 

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Rescue Mission said:
posting all this crap on a forum isn't going to actually create a CHANGE
Neither is running into a room full of people urging everyone into action when they have never even heard of the plight before because no one bothered posting about it anywhere on the internet so that they might have seen it and thought about it before.
 

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Rescue Mission said:
so is anyone here going to do something about this ridiculous liberal nazi-feminist movement that goes against all humane logic, or are we all going to sit here and b1tch and whine like little girls?

posting all this crap on a forum isn't going to actually create a CHANGE
We have been enlisting the interest of DoE and senators to our cause. Its a start, but we are fighting for what we believe in. It has nothing to do with feminism, but its the only way I see trying to make much of a different in a country who's priorities are questionable at times.
 
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