Restaraunt gaming? (Is it really that taboo?)

[Deicide]

Hey, I've wondered about what is the correct way to do restaraunt gaming. I don't go to restaraunts to meet women, but if I see an attractive 2,3, or 4-set, I want to go in and approach. Restaraunts are the places where I have the most AA at by the way. Probably because I have a fear of getting kicked out of places due to approaching, but that fear is decreasing the more I keep cold approaching. Food courts seem to be much easier places to game than restaraunts by the way.

From my personal experience, women respond better if you approach them if they're bored and waiting around for someone, rather than on a schedule or with a group of friends. I've done some approaches at my college food court and cafeteria, and I've gotten more WTF looks from women there than anywhere else. Still, restaraunt/food court gaming has golden opportunities in that you see so many HB's grouped together at once. And they're sitting "targets".

Example 1: This recently happened to me this week at a college food court.
I see a seated 2-set at the food court and I walk by, turn my head(my body isn't facing them. Thanks Neil Strauss for the tip) and say "Hey, are you trying to spend all your X points too?"
Girl 1 at table is receptive to me and converses with me, while Girl 2 aka my target, gives me WTF looks and doesn't even talk to me. Basically, after 30 seconds of convo, I got the sense they didn't want me there, so I left, but it gave me insight into how restaraunt/food court gaming works.

What is the best way to do some cold approach restaraunt gaming?

I'm out of college for the next 3 months, so I'll be doing exclusive public day game/night game, and I know I'm going to end up approaching taken women, so indirect may be the way to go. But really, I don't see much of a difference in approaching the hot 3-set at the grocery store, and then not approaching that same set at a restaraunt just because it's "forbidden". Help is appreciated.

 

[Re-ac-tor]

Refreshing thread, also curious.

I liked how you didn't get down on yourself after that 2 set - nice.

Oh, and diggin' the user name, hehe..

 

[Deicide]

Refreshing thread, also curious.

I liked how you didn't get down on yourself after that 2 set - nice.

Oh, and diggin' the user name, hehe..

Yes, I don't get bothered by sets that don't go well. It's all a process.
Haha yeah, Deicide is a great band. Have you done any restaraunt gaming? I think restaraunt gaming is easier in Fast Food places than a more structured environment like Chile's or TGI Fridays. I haven't done an approach there in a while(more organized places), but I guess it's time to do that next time I go to the city.

 

[BadNews]

Not sure if it counts as restaurant gaming...but I've been having CRAZY success lately picking up waitresses in restaurants/pubs. I had always thought picking up waitresses was one of the harder things to do..so I never bothered actively trying. But goddamn its a hell of a lot easier than I thought.

They have to interact with you. They have to be (for the most part) nice/social with you. If you play your game right (you REALLY REALLY need to create high interest quickly...especially if the place is busy)...getting numbers/dates from them is EZ PZ!!!

 

[BadNews]

As a side-note. Last week on friday I close my waitress (SMOKIN hot chick) after I had been very casually flirting with her all night (making her laugh, neg hits, bit of kino). There was a table of 3 guys and 4 girls sitting relatively close to me and my buddies...and the girls were watching the situation play out all evening; they literally couldn't keep their eyes off me. When I got the waitresses' number (the girls a the table saw this and began talking amoungst eachother...the guys didnt seem to like me too much hahah, they were total afc), this really really cute (kinda young...maybe 19) girl came over and started flirting with me before we left. She asked what we were doing later that night..and offered me her number!

 

[Deicide]

I would say waitresses fall under restaraunt gaming. Good job with the waitress number close. I did do a cold approach on a couple girls at a table today. Unfortunately, it looked like a Mom, her older daughter, and her kid. LOL Now, I just spotted the two adult females and thought "Oh yeah, it's on." So, I used an opener based on them wearing the same thing, and we talked very briefly because I'm very uncomfortable approaching at restaraunts. But I'm happy I did it. Because I did about 15 cold approaches in various places after that.
Lesson to self: Don't make your first cold approach of the day at a restaraunt, especially if you're opening what seems like a family. LOL

 

[BadNews]

Lesson to self: Don't make your first cold approach of the day at a restaraunt, especially if you're opening what seems like a family. LOL

Lol, I got a good chuckle out of this. Hey, at least you're goin for it...mom, daughter, grandma? Who cares. Good work man, keep forcing yourself out of your comfort zone!:rockon:

 

[Deicide]

Lol, I got a good chuckle out of this. Hey, at least you're goin for it...mom, daughter, grandma? Who cares. Good work man, keep forcing yourself out of your comfort zone!:rockon:

Lol, yeah, I'm more tempted than ever to approach girls when they're with their families for some reason. Thanks for the support also. Good luck with the gaming!.: :rockon: I'm trying to figure out a good way to use an opener that could create interest in a woman that is with her kid at a place like a supermarket. Something that is indirect but would let me know if this woman is willing to talk to me. Because I want a MILF f*ck buddy.

I'm thinking about using some opinion openers on groups that are seated without those dreaded PUA-laden words "I need your opinion on something". I'm starting to embrace restaraunt gaming now. I want to do more approaches at places like Chile's. I'm still struggling in the hired gun game. Last 2 ones I tried to get numbers from rejected me. It doesn't bother me, but I think I was missing some kino and DHV's. Otherwise, I could sense my rejection from an HB 7 Latina worker yesterday could've been a number close with a couple adjustments.

 

[dj_china]

props for the balls

I'd have to agree on restaurants being some of the hardest places to approach

out of curiosity, why are you so keen on doing restaurants? what about bookstores, coffeeshops, etc where it might be easier?

 

[powpow]

deicide man... seriously.... you are the bomb. you seem to be having awful luck with these broads, but you have balls of mega steel. Im proud of you dog.

the most important thing about opening a set of any number of people is to be exciting. you cant treat it like an interview. just go and enjoy the company and conversation. dont worry about getting numbers, getting information, anything like that. just enjoy. girls can sense fear, anxiety, and awkwardness. they can also sense confidence. once you get that confidence, you are gonna rock these girls.

and seriously, who gives a **** about tabboo?

 

[neghitzbrah]

Has it really been that long since the AA competition? I know we have all gone a long way with this. I don't remember who won, but Deicide would have taken down the competition.

Pow Pow, you're on the money. Just have fun with the conversation. Before you know it, they'll be accepting of you. Choose your battles though and go for the tables that have drinks on them. Also, if you're more observant try to see how many drinks they are ordering.

I'm starting to get more into Day Game as I'm having more success with it lately. How the hell do you isolate in Day Game when approaching 2+ sets? I always get stuck there. I approached a 3-set the other night in a restaurant, actually. Talked to them for about 10 minutes and couldn't/didn't know how to isolate for the life of me.

 

[Deicide]

props for the balls

I'd have to agree on restaurants being some of the hardest places to approach

out of curiosity, why are you so keen on doing restaurants? what about bookstores, coffeeshops, etc where it might be easier?

Thanks for the props from you and everyone here. Well, I just adhere to the idea that if I see an attractive woman, I want to be able to approach her anytime. A competitive desire and a biological one make me want to do restaraunt approaches, because I've never had much success with it, and I know I can do it. And I have approached at a bookstore, it was pretty cool. I've never tried coffeeshops, but I'll keep that in mind the next time I do some city sarging.
Pow pow, thanks for the support. I like the way you are so apathetic around women and it helps you so much. I'm trying to be like you in that aspect one step at a time. Haha, exactly, there are no taboos unless you believe there are.
neghitzbrah, The AA competition went down to a 4 way-tie and I was one of them. No clear winner was settled after that. I've wondered what AAAgent has been up to also. You could always say "Could I borrow your friend for a second?" in order to isolate. At least you got good experience with the 3-set. You also got deep into the approach, so they had to be comfortable with you.
dj-china and pow pow could help me out with this. How do you game Asian women in terms of time and comfort before making moves? The ones I've been involved with have been typically been shy girls(Chinese, Korean, Taiwanese, now a J-girl, and a not-so-shy Thai girl). I think I went too fast with them and thus, lost them. Like I'm taking things slower with this J-girl, though I should be pushing for a date sometime soon.

 

[powpow]

ROCK!

man one thing Ive learned from being over here in rising sun land is that you absolutely cannot generalize people based on a race, nationality, or anything.

Granted there are certain similarities based on cultural upbringing, but the thing Ive learned is

that people are people and there are all sorts of different people. You gotta go on a case by case basis. You gotta learn how to read people. And the only way you are gonna be able to become to do this is by experience, doing what youre doing. Read some stuff (books, articles, whatever) on stuff like body language, social status, social hierarchy, attraction, anything you can get your hands on that will relate to human social interaction. Youre a smart guy, youll get it in no time.

 

[Rikudo]

Its easy to do resturant AA i often use the : My inner self told me i should come her and say hi to you. So i start the convo but dont go to talk to them if they are eating no one wants to talk when he is eating.So this one works good but the body language must be relaxed and looking deep into her eyes.

 

[Deicide]

I did a restaraunt cold approach on a hot woman with her mom, and I didn't bail. I went direct with the hot woman, and talked with her and the mom for a little bit, though the mom ended her interaction. I feel a lot better about myself after doing this even though I didn't get in the situation for a number. I have to keep putting myself in uncomfortable situations and be more direct.