Respect yourself and your time

[Thor’s hammer]

I thought I’d share a lesson with you guys:



I met a really attractive woman at a bar and took her home. She was very impressed about my lifestyle (I’m well above average income). She even started promoting herself and said things like she’s single and she looks very good naked etc. Before anything happened, she started to throw up. Soon after, her beta friend came pick her up and she left. She asked my number though and sent me a message next day. This was pre christmas so I did not try to organize a date yet. After christmas I asked her how her christmas was and eventually asked her for a date for the next day. Her answer was something like ”I’m with my family during christmas and working for the rest of the year but we can meet up after new year”. I replied ”Ok”.

In new year she contacted me during morning asking my plans for the evening. I had plans indeed, I was going to couples dances and told her so. Out of respect asked her plans, to which she replied after her work, about seven hours later, that she was going out with her friends and wanted to know what kind of dances I was going to. She has been delaying her answers for hours before, and it is a quality I don’t want in a woman. At this point I just didn’t care anymore so I replied hours later. She then asked before midninght if I had plans after dances. I did not reply to her, she had over a week to make plans if she wanted to see at NYE. And she already told me next time she was available was after NYE.

I only replied the next day to which she did not reply to. She’s either mad at me for not replying to her, had a low interest from the get go, was playing hard to get and now regrets it, or she tested the waters if I would succumb to her whims. A theory I have come to is that if a women feels she’s way below you, they will try to compensate it in one way or another. Some may even blow you off since they know (rightfully so) that you are just toying with them.

I would never accept an offer to join a female who’s with her friends if nothing has happened yet. And especially if it is a last minute call. Even if you don’t have anything planned, you can still have your backbone and self respect. Fella’s, theres always a better opportunity and if you find a woman, however attractive she is, is not a good fit for you, move on.

 

[BPH]

In new year she contacted me during morning asking my plans for the evening. I had plans indeed, I was going to couples dances and told her so. Out of respect asked her plans, to which she replied after her work, about seven hours later, that she was going out with her friends and wanted to know what kind of dances I was going to. She has been delaying her answers for hours before, and it is a quality I don’t want in a woman. At this point I just didn’t care anymore so I replied hours later. She then asked before midninght if I had plans after dances. I did not reply to her, she had over a week to make plans if she wanted to see at NYE. And she already told me next time she was available was after NYE.

This girl tried 3 separate times to see you on New Year's Eve, even making herself available late at night, despite the fact that she was with friends.

She wanted to sleep with you, dummy.

Women are oftentimes more impulsive than rational - this has been the pattern in my last 2 field reports if you had a chance to read those over. She's not replying because she feels like she tried too hard to make herself available when that interest wasn't reciprocated.

If there's a lesson to be learned here, it's certainly not about having a backbone or self-respect - this girl wanted to see you enough that she tried to do it earlier than she thought she would be able to, and multiple times throughout an eventful night where she had already made plans to be with her friends.

Maybe your lesson here is to have certain standards? Really it just looks like you missed an easy lay and spun this into an "I didn't want her anyway" story to preach it to us.

 

[Thor’s hammer]

This girl tried 3 separate times to see you on New Year's Eve, even making herself available late at night, despite the fact that she was with friends.

She wanted to sleep with you, dummy.

Women are oftentimes more impulsive than rational - this has been the pattern in my last 2 field reports if you had a chance to read those over. She's not replying because she feels like she tried too hard to make herself available when that interest wasn't reciprocated.

If there's a lesson to be learned here, it's certainly not about having a backbone or self-respect - this girl wanted to see you enough that she tried to do it earlier than she thought she would be able to, and multiple times throughout an eventful night where she had already made plans to be with her friends.

Maybe your lesson here is to have certain standards? Really it just looks like you missed an easy lay and spun this into an "I didn't want her anyway" story to preach it to us.

I do not think so. I have always replied her in a timely manner. She takes hours to reply to texts. As I told you, she took seven hours to reply to me on NYE. I also told you, that I asked her for a date, which she refused. She has male orbiters around her, I saw that. Maybe she wanted to sleep, maybe she wanted attention from me. I have friends who fell into the trap of going out with a woman who was with their friends and they ended up in the friendzone.

 

[BPH]

I do not think so. I have always replied her in a timely manner. She takes hours to reply to texts. As I told you, she took seven hours to reply to me on NYE. I also told you, that I asked her for a date, which she refused. She has male orbiters around her, I saw that. Maybe she wanted to sleep, maybe she wanted attention from me. I have friends who fell into the trap of going out with a woman who was with their friends and they ended up in the friendzone.

If she was looking to go to you, rather than come to her, she definitely wanted to sleep with you.

As for the timely texts thing, again, my last 2 field reports had girls doing the same things, and both ended in a lay.

She didn't refuse your date; she wasn't available until a certain point, unexpectedly found time, and tried to accommodate you 3 times. That's what matters here.

 

[Thor’s hammer]

If she was looking to go to you, rather than come to her, she definitely wanted to sleep with you.

As for the timely texts thing, again, my last 2 field reports had girls doing the same things, and both ended in a lay.

She didn't refuse your date; she wasn't available until a certain point, unexpectedly found time, and tried to accommodate you 3 times. That's what matters here.

I don’t know if you have actually met a woman in your life but let me tell you this. Women play games, they play hard to get and they lead you on. They might do it just for entertainment or to seek approval. I have a sister and if you’d hear all the **** she puts men through you would not believe it. She even admitted losing a potential partner just because she played hard to get.

I don’t ever take anything women say for face value. Maybe I have been lied too many times. I don’t buy your opinion. I think this was a **** test to see if I have anything else going on.

 

[Solomon]

Shyt like this happens it could be like OP states
The thing is what's the end goal OP is it to get in her pants? her compliance etc
I had a woman who was bad at texting I thought she wasn't interested
But I jumped the gun she was a bad texter. The woman and I made plans to grab drinks
The woman drove 40 minutes to my town rented a hotel room(that she paid for) and we had some NYE fun

I had another woman just last night I also was messaging(Lets call her Girl B)
Girl B Tells me she likes all sorts of sex
We exchanged numbers Girl B sent me nudes (she had a very nice body and ass) after I asked her when she would be free
She went ghosts, I unmatched with her on the app. Am I jumping the gun? perhaps but for me I don't get excited over a woman sending me nudes it does nothing for me. I'm in the game to meet in person and not sext like some college kid. The woman then messaged me just now saying she fell asleep and that she was tired because she was fired (*Yawn)

IMO OP you did nothing wrong but I get the vibe that you are annoyed that she would play this game as you think you are above her.
In situations like these, it's always best to have more than one bullet in the chamber if you catch my drift. That is the point of those two stories.

Typically, if you are in a situation where you have a great lifestyle, i.e., you live in a nice place, have a great car, have a fun social life, etc.
Most women will act accordingly If they are serious especially women looking to settle down
But that's not a guarantee for compliance. I have a rule now I don't ask a woman out more than twice, I have learned that if a woman is interested she will try to lock a date/meet down ASAP women who tarry tend to be time wasters.

I Personally prefer a woman who shows high IL and makes an effort as most modern women are lazy and want to play games.
Spinning plates is mandatory it kills outcome dependence because you have options once you spin more plates threads like these won't exist because you will laugh at the foolishness of a woman trying to waste your time while another woman will gladly do things the other won't!

 

[Thor’s hammer]

Shyt like this happens it could be like OP states
The thing is what's the end goal OP is it to get in her pants? her compliance etc

Yes, well she seems like a nice girl so I would like to get to know her. I just hate the games and have had some bad experiences quite recently.

IMO OP you did nothing wrong but I get the vibe that you are annoyed that she would play this game as you think you are above her.
In situations like these, it's always best to have more than one bullet in the chamber if you catch my drift. That is the point of those two stories.

Typically, if you are in a situation where you have a great lifestyle, i.e., you live in a nice place, have a great car, have a fun social life, etc.
Most women will act accordingly If they are serious especially women looking to settle down
But that's not a guarantee for compliance. I have a rule now I don't ask a woman out more than twice, I have learned that if a woman is interested she will try to lock a date/meet down ASAP women who tarry tend to be time wasters.

That has been my experience as well. Usually things are easy when she is serious and she will find time for you. You are right, I am a bit annoyed. I get your point, abundance makes you care less on the outcome. I’ve had a rule where I ask a women out only once. Maybe I could try your rule instead to see if it brings any results.

I Personally prefer a woman who shows high IL and makes an effort as most modern women are lazy and want to play games.
Spinning plates is mandatory it kills outcome dependence because you have options once you spin more plates threads like these won't exist because you will laugh at the foolishness of a woman trying to waste your time while another woman will gladly do things the other won't!

I agree. The problem with being an entrepreneur is that I do not have too much time or energy to go out and meet women. It would be just easier to find some LTR rather than being constantly on the hunt. On the other hand, this forces a man to be on top of his game and to push forward in life. High IL and mature women are usually quite easy to be with. Though there has been some shift due to FDS. I guess life is never easy. Maybe I’ll write another post how things change when you get status and how important it is.

 

[The Duke]

@Thor’s hammer -

You have to get to a point where it doesn't matter what she does or doesn't do. If she acts how you want her to, then you stay interested. If she doesn't, then you stop talking to her. She either meets your standards or not.

Do I think this girl is a crazy wh0re....yep. Do I think she is a little flakey....yep. Could you fuhk her...yep. Stop taking these women so seriously.

She has ruffled your feathers, and you let her do it. Talk about "respecting yourself." Why you are letting this girl live rent free in your head is beyond me.

I'd of been turned off because she couldn't handle her alcohol and threw up before you had sex. That was the first sign she wasn't reliable and shouldn't be taken seriously.

 

[Thor’s hammer]

@Thor’s hammer -

You have to get to a point where it doesn't matter what she does or doesn't do. If she acts how you want her to, then you stay interested. If she doesn't, then you stop talking to her. She either meets your standards or not.

Do I think this girl is a crazy wh0re....yep. Do I think she is a little flakey....yep. Could you fuhk her...yep. Stop taking these women so seriously.

She has ruffled your feathers, and you let her do it. Talk about "respecting yourself." Why you are letting this girl live rent free in your head is beyond me.

I'd of been turned off because she couldn't handle her alcohol and threw up before you had sex. That was the first sign she wasn't reliable and shouldn't be taken seriously.

Tough love, appreciate your input. Devil hides behind beauty as they say…

 

[New_Journey]

about seven hours later

Every single needy guys always has to count the time, like he is entitled that the girl has to reply within certain time frame

and it is a quality I don’t want in a woman.

Translation, I'm impatient and my frame crumbles down when she doesn't reply fast.

At this point I just didn’t care anymore so I replied hours later. She then asked before midninght if I had plans after dances. I did not reply to her

Translation, I got angry cause she didn't reply fast, then like a crying toddler I took my toys and went home crying.

I only replied the next day to which she did not reply to

Yeaahhh, you're the man, teach her a lesson that she needs to reply fast to "Thor's hammer" Im sure her panties will drop.

I only replied the next day to which she did not reply to. She’s either mad at me for not replying to her, had a low interest from the get go, was playing hard to get and now regrets it, or she tested the waters if I would succumb to her whims. A theory I have come to is that if a women feels she’s way below you, they will try to compensate it in one way or another. Some may even blow you off since they know (rightfully so) that you are just toying with them.

Nope. She just saw you for what you were, a toddler who can't handle the simple pressure of waiting for her to respond whenever the fvck she wants. Guys like you you are common, that's how women filter needy guys, taking their time to respond to see how they are, and you are a toddler still.

I would never accept an offer to join a female who’s with her friends if nothing has happened yet

Yep, that's why you didn't fvck her and now are here posting this victim puke.

Fella’s, theres always a better opportunity and if you find a woman, however attractive she is, is not a good fit for you, move on

Copium to the maximus. She put herself on a silver platter for you, and because she took "x" amount of time to reply you threw a tantrum and fumbled the football.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

If she was looking to go to you, rather than come to her, she definitely wanted to sleep with you.

As for the timely texts thing, again, my last 2 field reports had girls doing the same things, and both ended in a lay.

She didn't refuse your date; she wasn't available until a certain point, unexpectedly found time, and tried to accommodate you 3 times. That's what matters here.

Probably texted back hours later because she could see he just "wasn't getting it".

The lesson to be learned here is to learn how to read between the lines with women better and strike while the iron is hot.

OP played tiddlywinks while she was looking for ways to fvck

 

[BPH]

I don’t know if you have actually met a woman in your life but let me tell you this. Women play games, they play hard to get and they lead you on. They might do it just for entertainment or to seek approval. I have a sister and if you’d hear all the **** she puts men through you would not believe it. She even admitted losing a potential partner just because she played hard to get.

I don’t ever take anything women say for face value. Maybe I have been lied too many times. I don’t buy your opinion. I think this was a **** test to see if I have anything else going on.

Oooh personal attacks, nice. Yeah, I must not know anything about women...

Like how I didn't know anything about this woman: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/fr-97.283406/

Or this one: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/fr-98.283433/#post-3144273

Not every woman is your sister. Women play games, sure, but this one invited you 3 times - including once late at night, willing to leave her friends to accommodate you...does she have to spell it out for you? Granted, if she was inviting you to join her and her friends, that's one thing - but this sounds like she was asking if you were free so she could come see you.

Maybe somebody else has to say it since you don't think I know what I'm talking about.

Copium to the maximus. She put herself on a silver platter for you, and because she took "x" amount of time to reply you threw a tantrum and fumbled the football.

Like this guy.

Probably texted back hours later because she could see he just "wasn't getting it".

The lesson to be learned here is to learn how to read between the lines with women better and strike while the iron is hot.

OP played tiddlywinks while she was looking for ways to fvck

Or maybe this guy.

Do you get it yet?

 

[Thor’s hammer]

Every single needy guys always has to count the time, like he is entitled that the girl has to reply within certain time frame


Translation, I'm impatient and my frame crumbles down when she doesn't reply fast.


Translation, I got angry cause she didn't reply fast, then like a crying toddler I took my toys and went home crying.


Yeaahhh, you're the man, teach her a lesson that she needs to reply fast to "Thor's hammer" Im sure her panties will drop.


Nope. She just saw you for what you were, a toddler who can't handle the simple pressure of waiting for her to respond whenever the fvck she wants. Guys like you you are common, that's how women filter needy guys, taking their time to respond to see how they are, and you are a toddler still.


Yep, that's why you didn't fvck her and now are here posting this victim puke.


Copium to the maximus. She put herself on a silver platter for you, and because she took "x" amount of time to reply you threw a tantrum and fumbled the football.

Thank you for your input. I’ll bear your words in mind. I think you are a bit unfair here. I never lashed out or mentioned anything nor was I intending to do so.

Probably texted back hours later because she could see he just "wasn't getting it".

The lesson to be learned here is to learn how to read between the lines with women better and strike while the iron is hot.

OP played tiddlywinks while she was looking for ways to fvck

Thanks, I’ll know better next time. It ’s just hard to distinguish when they are playing games and leading you on (which has happened in the past) and when they are in it for real.

 

[Thor’s hammer]

Oooh personal attacks, nice. Yeah, I must not know anything about women...

Like how I didn't know anything about this woman: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/fr-97.283406/

Or this one: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/fr-98.283433/#post-3144273

Not every woman is your sister. Women play games, sure, but this one invited you 3 times - including once late at night, willing to leave her friends to accommodate you...does she have to spell it out for you? Granted, if she was inviting you to join her and her friends, that's one thing - but this sounds like she was asking if you were free so she could come see you.

Maybe somebody else has to say it since you don't think I know what I'm talking about.



Like this guy.



Or maybe this guy.

Do you get it yet?

Ok fine

 

[New_Journey]

Thank you for your input. I’ll bear your words in mind. I think you are a bit unfair here. I never lashed out or mentioned anything nor was I intending to do so.






Thanks, I’ll know better next time. It ’s just hard to distinguish when they are playing games and leading you on (which has happened in the past) and when they are in it for real.

Bro its cool. Everyone in here has all fvck up from time to time. Take the criticism and leave your ego aside. Next time you'll know how to handle it.

If she texts you, wish her a happy new year and ask her when she's free and you know a cool place to dance and invite her. She will test you again waiting hours so you gotta be patient or ahe may not want to see you in which case is okay too. Hot women have orbiters who are needy, and today most men are. Like Pook said "A true Don Juan has patience"

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Thank you for your input. I’ll bear your words in mind. I think you are a bit unfair here. I never lashed out or mentioned anything nor was I intending to do so.






Thanks, I’ll know better next time. It ’s just hard to distinguish when they are playing games and leading you on (which has happened in the past) and when they are in it for real.

It happens bro, I've had it happen a lot myself where I was kicking myself...

Probably no more so than in college after I got into elite physical shape and had women almost throwing themselves at me and I was oblivious to it all...

 

[Thor’s hammer]

It happens bro, I've had it happen a lot myself where I was kicking myself...

Probably no more so than in college after I got into elite physical shape and had women almost throwing themselves at me and I was oblivious to it all...

Well this. I think one of my biggest obstacles is that I am oblivious because women have always thrown themselves at me. I guess I need to learn better to read the ques and act on them.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Well this. I think one of my biggest obstacles is that I am oblivious because women have always thrown themselves at me. I guess I need to learn better to read the ques and act on them.

Don't be scared, it's only ****.