Respect the hustle...how do you pull women?

[Macaframalama]

Game is fraud. Plain and simple.

You can't just make up your own definition because it suits you lol.

The term "game" itself reveals the fraud of it:

game
ɡām/
noun

1. 1.
   a form of play or sport, especially a competitive one played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck.

verb
verb: game; 3rd person present: games; gerund or present participle: gaming; past tense: gamed; past participle: gamed

1. 1.
   manipulate (a situation), typically in a way that is unfair or unscrupulous.
   "it was very easy for a few big companies to game the system"
2. 2.
   play video or computer games.
   "the majority of the audience are teens who game and watch anime"

Am I the only person on this forum who is a fan of FACTS? I see @BeExcellent liked your post. That's a sign you have entered a "FACT free environment" LOL.

I don't know who some of you think you are that you can just "make sh*t up" and create your own definitions of words.

VALUE is real. Having an attractive personality is real. "Game" is being FAKE to get a result.

Dude, the phrase "Game" as it's being thrown around here originated from pimps, players and macks long before the internet was even a thing. Your game can either be solid or built on bull****. You're trying to change the definition of something that's been here longer than the both of us.

 

[Urbanyst]

Dude, the phrase "Game" as it's being thrown around here originated from pimps, players and macks long before the internet was even a thing. Your game can either be solid or built on bull****. You're trying to change the definition of something that's been here longer than the both of us.

If you READ you will see I am using FACTS to provide the true definition of game.

Game involves some level of fraud.

Self improvement to be come a REAL attractive man with REAL social skills is not "game" lol.

 

[byers90]

I look the best that I possibly can, go out, and if the opportunity comes up where I see a woman I find is attractive and might possibly like me- I pull the trigger. That's all there is to it.

Since I am older now I don't think about or have the hangups I might've had when I was like, 18 years old.

 

[Urbanyst]

if this is all fraud to you, then why are you even here?

There is more to pulling HOT women, having VALUE and being the best man you can be than engaging in the fraudulent behaviors.

Too bad you think too one-dimensionally to see that lol.

 

[Urbanyst]

Its part of the human mating dance. Now not being true to who you are is where fraud steps in. Flirting is game and is authentic when you are really attracted to a girl.

Indeed.

But that is not "game" lol. That is just engaging in the normal natural "mating dance" and flirting.

Game is fraud.

 

[claudolfgeorgini]

Genuine desire is where it's at. When a woman desires you, she will move mountains for you/to be with you.

Modus operandi may vary depending on the woman...but she'll demonstrate her desire.

Ever wonder why there exist great looking men who struggle with women? Or how is it that some men who appear to other men to be the complete package struggle? Because those men don't have good game. And it's worse in some ways for the good looking/total package guys because they KNOW they are good looking/total package on paper...and so they get that much more frustrated.

Social awkwardness/lack of social calibration is what shoots these guys in the foot. But some don't realize they are socially awkward and some can't grasp that social calibration simply means acting appropriately in a given environment...women find cognitive dissonance in a man who looks good & has status on paper...but can't handle social interaction well. It comes off odd and awkward. Disappointing.

I recall dates like that. Great looking successful guy...conversation won't flow or he is uncomfortable. Enormous buzz kill folks. Comes off too stuffy, too formal, too uptight, unnatural.

And it's not nerves either. I've been out with guys who were nervous. Nervousness typically relaxes and subsides as the conversation opens and flows. Awkwardness does not.

Guys with good game might occasionally get nervous if they really dig a girl...but they are never awkward.

That's why I think that you can't force women to be attracted to you, but you can make them UN-attracted to you. Being incongruent with how she initially perceived you is what causes this.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

There is more to pulling HOT women, having VALUE and being the best man you can be than engaging in the fraudulent behaviors.

Too bad you think too one-dimensionally to see that lol.

"Game" is just the ability to get women to sleep with you. It doesn't have to be fraudulent.

 

[BeExcellent]

That's why I think that you can't force women to be attracted to you, but you can make them UN-attracted to you. Being incongruent with how she initially perceived you is what causes this.

1000% true

 

[ubercat]

U certainly can't make all women attracted to you. But I ve proven that u can attract many women by pretending to be their type. Certainly for long enough to add to your notch count. Not an activity I d recommend for your long term character development. But before the white knights rush in remember all the crumbs of false hope she throws her orbiters. In the short term there is just tactics. In the long term there is investment and you can have an impact on a person so assuming they are playing a fair game there is a certain duty of care

 

[RangerMIke]

Where:
- Anywhere really, streetcar, grocery store, parties, networking events.

Goal:
- Have fun, meet like-minded chicks, and date for as long as they are willing to go along with my lifestyle.

How:
- Drinks... coffee, get to know them. Then concerts, festivals, dinner... whatever I'm doing then invite chicks along.

Game:
- None really... WYSIWYG.

Strengths:
- I'm in excellent shape for a man my age.
- I'm great at reading body language.
- Honesty, and I'm not afraid to ask for what I want and never beat around the bush.
- I also have a great sense of humor and can make just about any woman laugh.

Weaknesses:
- At 50 my age is finally starting to catch up with me... I'm starting to lose some drive.

Results:
- Currently dating and hooking up with 3 women. Ages 38, 40, and 48. Had two first dates in the last couple of weeks with a 36 yo and a 26 yo. An old GF (just turned 40) just came back in the picture and I'm going out with her on Thursday. I asked out and was shot down by 5 other women in the last couple of weeks (A 40 something yo CEO, a couple of chicks in their late 20s I think, a latina in her early 30s, and a woman I met on the streetcar today, I think she was mid-20s.
- Lately I'm having a harder time connecting with women in their 20s... it might be time for me to move past that demographic and stick to my sweet spot late 30s early 40s.

 

[Urbanyst]

Wait, so only a "natural" who intuitively knows how and where to touch on a date is allowed to use game?

I'm not talking about what people are "allowed" to do or not. I am talking about FACTS.

 

[Urbanyst]

"Game" is just the ability to get women to sleep with you. It doesn't have to be fraudulent.

You can get a woman to sleep with you by paying her MONEY or being "hot". That is not game.

 

[Urbanyst]

Its only fraud in your relative perception. It is what you make it. Why label it at all?

Why NOT label it?

Not its not "what you make it". It is in FACT a word with a real definition lol.

 

[Macaframalama]

Why NOT label it?

Not its not "what you make it". It is in FACT a word with a real definition lol.

Why are you so adamant on hijacking a word that is used as slang in this context, primarily made popular and used in urban culture, before you were even born? The word game is relatively new to pua community. Has it taken on a new meaning since Neil Strauss' book or something? My gameplay is keeping everything on the up and up, confidence, calm and cool and my dominating physical presence. I like to bullchit and banter allot, but i make it so overtly obvious, that it leaves no doubt. I don't lie about my income, nor my intentions. This is my game. There are others that use fraudulence, but that is their game and it's weak game at that.

 

[Urbanyst]

Why are you so adamant on hijacking a word that is used as slang in this context, primarily made popular and used in urban culture, before you were even born? The word game is relatively new to pua community. Has it taken on a new meaning since Neil Strauss' book or something? My gameplay is keeping everything on the up and up, confidence, calm and cool and my dominating physical presence. I like to bullchit and banter allot, but i make it so overtly obvious, that it leaves no doubt. I don't lie about my income, nor my intentions. This is my game. There are others that use fraudulence, but that is their game and it's weak game at that.

Look.. all game involves some level of fraudulence.

Just deal with it and stop trying to make excuses because the word doesn't mean what you want it to mean lol.

Being "yourself" is not game. Neither is being attractive.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Look.. all game involves some level of fraudulence.

Why do you think this?

 

[TheGambino]

Where:
- Mostly club game, bar game and sometimes at the university, gym or in a supermarket. My main thing is club game because I can dance, I got style and I just feel the vibe of the music and the environment.

Goal:
- Have fun, f8ck as many girls as I can, dance, escalate to making out and number closing to follow up with a date.
Meet a ltr worthy girl that is educated, has a great body and a good face to bear a child(hope for a daughter).

How:
- Flirt with eye contact, dance, kino, whisper in her ear, random approach and see if she follows up then I isolate.

Game:
- Flirt, escalate, being cexual, being fun, showing social status by greeting everyone I know. Dance, have fun, escalate. Push/pull. Taking action is my strong point.

Strengths:
- I'm pretty big for a small guy in height.
- Great conversationalist.
- Good face.
- Being fun and outstanding.
- Being tough
- Not your regular man
- My confidence is sky high, it reaches the roof.

Weaknesses:
- My height and im needy when I meet a hot fling that I escalated with, they feel it even though I got enough plates and could attract girls easily. Im too eager and girls sense it.

Results:
Got two steady plates, a couple backburners, dropped a lot that I could hit up easily again, they weren't attractive enough or the cex wasn't wild enough.
Met a new girl in a ltr, Im backing off after great cex, see if she contacts me again.
I'm just your true DJ that tries to improve everyday.

 

[Urbanyst]

Why do you think this?

READ.

 

[Urbanyst]

Hey Mac there are idiots all over the place man. Sprinkled in amongst the enlightened people. We can deal with that fact.

According to @stringpuller the definition of "idiots" are:

1. People who disagree with @stringpuller
2. People who prefer FACTS over dogma

LOL.

 

[Macaframalama]

According to @stringpuller the definition of "idiots" are:

1. People who disagree with @stringpuller
2. People who prefer FACTS over dogma

LOL.

Where are the facts? A definition pulled from Webster's?.?. CTFU! You do realize that "game" is used as slang in this particular context right? Now, I think you are playing games and not a very good one at that. Being the poor sport that you are, I suspect that you have never been put on game at all.