Reply rates have really went down on OLD. What's going on?

[MrWood]

if my mom said a 20yo was checking me out...

"hello there"
"how you doin'" (in Joey voice)

anyway in 2019 i slept with 2x20yo's soo... wtf, im 53 = NOT TOO YOUNG
(not to mention i went rawdog because... vasectomy) yay team!


@biggoal has a goal, that is to disqualify himself for anything other than 40-50yo HB6

 

[RickTheToad]

I just threw him one yesterday that was an updated spin on the old one you’re talking about.

He ignored it.

But I don’t think he’d get far at all even if he used it anyway. He doesn’t have the persona to follow it up. It would be interesting to see if he gets more responses up front though.

You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink it. A shame.

 

[biggoal]

Okay, so on Match I just had a hot brunette cougar in her 40s reply back just now!

Of course my original message was a big too long so of course no reply. BUT I saw her online last night so I decided to leave a comment on one of her photos. This is my comment below. Anyway, she reply back with emojis and said I look cute.

This is the comment I left. So what should I reply back to her with? Paging MrWood. This is the message she replied to. Somehow I was able to trigger something in her.

You commented: Textbook definition of cougar! But look rather young for that You should be the textbook example on Urban Dictionary!

 

[MrWood]

So what should I reply back to her with?

you already replied, so... wait to see if she bites.
all I can say is that you used playful banter, which is good... you just need to stay congruent with the flirt.
please do not use anything clique, you might get a date... too bad you cant invite her to your place.

honestly Im quite lucky as I have a place 3min walk to the beach and a cafe, so I usally date to the cafe and lead them to my place or just invite them directly to my place to cook dinner together, a glass of California wine and a movie.

my goto 1st date movie is "Knight&Day" with Tom Cruise and Carmen Diaz, it has never failed to produce results.
I hate wine but Robert Mondavi is made in my birthplace hometown so is a great story topic.

 

[biggoal]

you already replied, so... wait to see if she bites.
all I can say is that you used playful banter, which is good... you just need to stay congruent with the flirt.
please do not use anything clique, you might get a date... too bad you cant invite her to your place.

honestly Im quite lucky as I have a place 3min walk to the beach and a cafe, so I usally date to the cafe and lead them to my place or just invite them directly to my place to cook dinner together, a glass of California wine and a movie.

my goto 1st date movie is "Knight&Day" with Tom Cruise and Carmen Diaz, it has never failed to produce results.

I didn't reply back yet. I mean I sent the photo comment and she replied to it that Im cute so I'm trying to come up with a playful reply back. She has an edge to her look that I like so I'm going to try and touch on that. She's 46.

 

[MrWood]

you are on the knife edge... if you reply too enthusiastic or "into her" you will loose it... 50/50 shot at her re-initiating.

I guess if it was me, I would maybe "like" another photo in a day or two if she doesnt reply further... otherwise you might come across as a starstruck boy. Then again, I might take a shot at a DM, tell her about her cute smile and "edgy style".
One thing I definitely do with older chicks is call them "girl" and treat them like they are 17yo. Old women want to FEEL young.

"Cute smile, I like your fun style... all woman on the outside, but all girl on the inside... am I wrong/isnt that right?"

Use echo technique and mirror her. If she says "hello", you say "hello" (not "hi") etc.
Another tip... in the early stages of texting, always end your message with a question.
I use phrases like
"blah blah foo, dont you think?"
"blah blah foo, am I wrong?"
"blah blah foo, isnt that right?
"lets meet for coffee or a glass of sweet wine, what do you say?"

the "blah blah foo" cannot be casual banter... and I think you are loosing girls because you are using "friendly get-to-know you" banter. (which only leads to friendzone)

 

[biggoal]

you are on the knife edge... if you reply too enthusiastic or "into her" you will loose it... 50/50 shot at her re-initiating.

I guess if it was me, I would maybe "like" another photo in a day or two if she doesnt reply further... but otherwise you might come across as a starstruck boy. Then again, I might take a shot at a DM, tell her about her cute smile and "edgy style".
One thing I definitely do with older chicks is call them "girl" and treat them like they are 17yo. Old women want to FEEL young.

"Cute smile, I like your fun style... all woman on the outside, but all girl on the inside... am I wrong?"

Use echo technique and mirror her. If she says "hello", you say "hello" (not "hi") etc.

basically what I said actually. I mentioned she has an edge to her look and she has this mysterious look to her too so I playfully said I wanna find out more You're right though. Even if she does not reply back I might revisit her in a few days and leave another photo comment.

Previously I'd get replies but I wouldn't be very playful when we get into conversation and they'd eventually quit replying. I guess after the initial message if they reply then start to be a bit more playful.

Here is a pic. The thing is she is listed as 2 inches taller than me. We know women fudge height up as well. Should I let this affect my frame being afraid of a woman's height?

 

[Alvafe]

basically what I said actually. I mentioned she has an edge to her look and she has this mysterious look to her too so I playfully said I wanna find out more You're right though. Even if she does not reply back I might revisit her in a few days and leave another photo comment.

Previously I'd get replies but I wouldn't be very playful when we get into conversation and they'd eventually quit replying. I guess after the initial message if they reply then start to be a bit more playful.

Here is a pic. The thing is she is listed as 2 inches taller than me. We know women fudge height up as well. Should I let this affect my frame being afraid of a woman's height?

really? after grandmas again?

 

[biggoal]

really? after grandmas again?

She's only 46.

 

[MrWood]

If I came across that pic on Tinder, swipe left. She is too old (46) and low HB6- (and thats giving a +.5 cuz she is 46), maybe fun to game for a date and lay, but only because she is thin.

2in taller??? lol good luck cuz she would probably reject me based on height alone and Im 5'8.
Realize women want a man equal or taller than her when she wears heels out for a date.

 

[RickTheToad]

basically what I said actually. I mentioned she has an edge to her look and she has this mysterious look to her too so I playfully said I wanna find out more You're right though. Even if she does not reply back I might revisit her in a few days and leave another photo comment.

Previously I'd get replies but I wouldn't be very playful when we get into conversation and they'd eventually quit replying. I guess after the initial message if they reply then start to be a bit more playful.

Here is a pic. The thing is she is listed as 2 inches taller than me. We know women fudge height up as well. Should I let this affect my frame being afraid of a woman's height?

If she's 46, I'm really Bill Gates. Since you do not listen, are you a practicing Catholic?

 

[biggoal]

If I came across that pic on Tinder, swipe left. She is too old (46) and low HB for me, maybe fun to game for a date and lay, but only because she is thin.

2in taller??? lol good luck cuz she would probably reject me based on height alone and Im 5'8.
Realize women want a man equal or taller than her when she wears heels out for a date.

So most of the women you're getting are those fun size Euros?

Here is a younger one, 30 from the same area, 50 miles away I messaged too. She read the message but didn't reply. Yet I get dates and much better reply rates from women a couple years older than me.

Why do late 30s on up women show interest in me and those are my dates? Like that one chick I posted Rickthetoad thought was hot was a 40 year old. Why would a hot 40 year old go on a date with me but a hot 30 year old is harder to get replies?

 

[MrWood]

a 30yo wants kids.
Women over 40 literally cant have kids

Your DNA is not suitable it seems.

 

[RickTheToad]

So most of the women you're getting are those fun size Euros?

Here is a younger one, 30 from the same area, 50 miles away I messaged too. She read the message but didn't reply. Yet I get dates and much better reply rates from women a couple years older than me.

Why do late 30s on up women show interest in me and those are my dates? Like that one chick I posted Rickthetoad thought was hot was a 40 year old. Why would a hot 40 year old go on a date with me but a hot 30 year old is harder to get replies?

ROFL. No chance dude. NONE. Don't even waste your time.

a 30yo wants kids. Your DNA is not suitable it seems.

Let's be real. Do you think she will give him the time of day?

 

[biggoal]

a 30yo wants kids. Your DNA is not suitable it seems.

I don't want kids but I don't list that in my profile. Most of these women my age early 30s on up on OLD already have kids and list don't want kids on their profile. One chick I went out with from facebook dating was 40 and no kids. On the date remember she said she wanted a second date before I botched it with a text message. She flat out said she wants no kids and if i want kids she's not the woman for me lol.

 

[Young OG]

So I'd say the last 4 months my reply rates on OLD have gone down a lot! I was probably at like 10-15 percent on OLD and only messaging at a min HB 7.5 to 9. Nothing above a 9 because they don't exist on OLD and that is a lot better than the PUA estimates of 2-5 percent for "strong" profiles. Last summer and fall I was doing pretty well on Match, OKcupid, and Facebook dating. Btw FB Dating looked pretty promising when it first launched. The quality of women was decent actually and easy to get a reply from when leaving a photo comment. Now FB dating is mostly ugly landwhales and fatties. That tanked.

Heck, and last summer when I first started really using it I even had garbage photos like the one in my avatar and my reply rate was a lot better.

I do notice the quality and quantity of women have gone WAY down the last few months on OLD. Can that be an issue too when there is a lot less to go around and more guys swarming them?

Am I the only one noticing a lot less decent women lately on OLD?

I did change my profile summary wording as well and I think that affected it as well. I might go back to my old profile summary that seemed to get better results. The thing is that I get women who look at my profile without me even messaging them. So obviously initially when they see my face it gets their interest level because I use good, clear photos and have a near perfect smile.

Your reply rate is low because you are below average looking, your OLD pics suck, your openers suck, your too picky, and you live in a retirement community.

Sorry, I'm just being honest.

 

[biggoal]

Your reply rate is low because you are below average looking, your OLD pics suck, your openers suck, your too picky, and you live in a retirement community.

Sorry, I'm just being honest.

So I'm ugly?

 

[Young OG]

So I'm ugly?

I didn't say that. I just said below average. You can bring your smv up by possibly changing your hairstyle, grow a beard, get some muscle, and work on your wardrobe. Also, professional pictures go a long way on OLD.

 

[Alvafe]

So I'm ugly?

ugly, slow, unsocial, possible really a shy in person, and easy to be taken advantage of.

there is more but I guess for now it enough

 

[RickTheToad]

Your reply rate is low because you are below average looking, your OLD pics suck, your openers suck, your too picky, and you live in a retirement community.

Sorry, I'm just being honest.

A bit harsh dude. He's sensitive, no need to knock him out. He needs work, but a new hair style, clothes, 30 LBS of muscle and fat along with some personality and interaction work on himself would do wonders.