Remind me again, why do we pursue women??

[squirrels]

Since having sex for the first time, I just don't feel the kind of drive I used to. I see women, and you know, I get hard for them or whatever, but I just don't feel DRIVEN any more.

I wonder whether sex is worth all the **** we do, worth all the crap on this site, all the tactics, all the energy, all the time.

Sex is boring and stupid. A lot of you don't know because you've never done it. When you do, you'll realize too, that it isn't everything everyone's made it out to be. It's just another thing to do.

I understand the whole DJ attitude, but I am just ready to be done with this entirely. The prize is not worth the challenge. It just isn't.

I'm wondering why we're here. Why *I* am here.

Someone remind me why women are so important? Why we try so hard to get them?

I dont' want to give up. I want it back...the way I felt before sex. I want to want women. I want to find some pleasure in being around them. I just can't any more.

 

[icepick]

No, sex as you speak of it isn't worth it. However, part of the point of some of the things on this site is to MAKE girls worth the effort. You get out of sex what you put in, and girls have an intuition about that. (Why do you think it is more difficult to get girls as a repressed AFC?)

There is more to enjoy about sex than just the nut.

If you don't want to chase women, don't chase them. Ain't no one forcing you, and if you force yourself it becomes harder to actually enjoy being successful at it.

This is the time where you should just talk to chicks just to talk. Eventually one will really get to ya, and you can have some good sex.

 

[MVPlaya]

This isn't just about some nice 4ss. This is about learning to socialize. What you learn here will help you on the dancefloor and during business meetings. This teaches you confidence and charisma and if you truly believe this only applies to chicks than you got it wrong. Also, maybe the chicks you game aren't that hot/special. One of my buddies is a DJ and he is hell of jaded with women (had 2 many - I guess) but even he can manage to get attracted to women and have all those feelings you cherish. Its just about finding someone that does it for you.

 

[00Kevin]

We go after women because for some stupid reason we have the need to be a provider and to give our love to them. If you can live life without ever having that need then all the power to you.
You have broken the bonds of human nature. Your life will be easy and you will be very successful.

 

[Walden]

Nope, I just go after chicks cos I love the clam. What can I say?










Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm sweet claaaaaaaaaaaaaaam.


















<Sound of Walden beginning to drool and shorting out the computer in his mess' rec room>

 

[squirrels]

I dunno...I know that I DO want it, but then when I go out to the club, even though some of the women are hot, I just can't seem to get psyched for it. Between having to shout over the music, having to deal with cokkblocking friends, and the women not having much to say...I just can't seem to get in a state where I can really project my masculinity and value.

I used to feel the same way when I was afraid of women, back when I was AFC, so sometimes I think I'm reverting, but honestly I'm trying to summon up some kind of inner energy and it's just not happening. It doesn't flow.

I half-think it's because I put so much emphasis on sex, then when I finally got it, (don't get me wrong, it was fun...) it just wasn't enough to justify going through crap with ditzy chicks. If it was, I'd have no problem turning it up in a tight situation.

I'm thinking maybe I oughta start doing mall pickups or some other venue. Maybe the club thing just isn't the way to go for me. It's just discouraging...here's all these girls just looking for an excuse to get sexed and I can't find the inner-drive to give them what they want.

It really does feel awkward.

 

[myfriendblu]

Originally posted by squirrels
I wonder whether sex is worth all the **** we do, worth all the crap on this site, all the tactics, all the energy, all the time.

Its not worth all the stuff MOST guys go threw. No way, not even close. However, once your game is tight, you don't have to do much to get it. So then, the tradeoff is worth it.

 

[aguynamedwill]

We men go through what we do because of our instinctual desire to pro-create. It runs through all life on Earth.

I personally experienced a huge drop in desire when I had the sudden realisation that women were just people too. They weren't goddesses, in fact most of them are screwed up. They can't make a decision, they care too much about what others think of them, they get nervous around studs like us, etc.

Recently I was too pre-occupied with other things to pay much attention to women, and I noticed I wasn't even getting morning wood. But for some reason, I didn't really care, I had stuff to get done.

I think sex is great, especially with a new partner. I love exploring her, finding out what makes her body quiver, what makes her moan. For me its all about getting her off. That makes me feel...like a man.

I don't get it on a regular basis since I'm not so good at relationships. For some reason, though I love women on a sexual level, I can't stand them at other times. I've dropped most my female friends, I couldn't take the *****yness and insecurities and emotional dribble. The ones I still talk to are more like guys to me, they're cool. I did have one long term relationship and I got so bored with the sex that I started turning her down and using the headache excuse.

Because I don't get it on a regular basis, it keeps me interested, and I'll look in a babe's eyes and say hello just to see what kind of reaction I'll get. Often I'll find her checking me out minutes/hours (at bars) /days(at work) later. But I'm not driven to bang her, cuz I know I'm a DJ and some chick will just throw herself at me and make it very easy for me. And these are cute chicks too (though a few uglies won't leave me alone). So I don't have to be driven. I can focus my drive on the important things.

You're absolutely right though. Sex isn't the holy grail that virgins and pornos make it out to be. But it definetely is a spice to be enjoyed from time to time. Intimacy also is suppossed to have health benifits too.

Congrats on losing the big V, welcome to the ranks of disillusioned men. Don't know if I answered your question, but your posts are always good and I felt like contributing.

Will

 

[Oxide]

Interesting... I lost my V card about a month ago as well, and i definately feel the change in my perception on women.

Guys Definately try too hard, that is why i believe myfriendblue summed this up very well

" However, once your game is tight, you don't have to do much to get it"

This is definately true. I picked up a virgin and got her to 3rd base without putting nearly as much effort as im trying to put into other girls. Why? Because i didnt feel any pressure to pick her up.

She knew i was valuable, and i knew it too, so things clicked.

I still want women, but right now i do spend more time on hobbies, exploration of my nature, and being the best man i can be.

 

[italostud]

I find that after 1 week without sex, I'm jonesing pretty bad. If it's been an entire 2 weeks without puss, I go out on an all out ***** mission. Of course I jerk off about 2x a day, but my penis seems to be able to tell the difference between my hand and a vagina(**** you penis). So yeah, about 2 weeks of punching the clown is my max.

 

[Ice Cold]

Young horny teen: I want SEX from women
Middle aged man: I need somebody to CLEAN and COOK for me
Old experienced man: I need women for energy that surrounds them


Maybe your first time sucked, I dunno. Mine 3 weeks of sex weren't as great as I imagined it to be, then I learned all the buttons and stuff. It was more fun.


But hey - did you expect your life to be complete when you bonked a chick a few times?

 

[Zephyrus]

Men KILL each other for *****, and over *****... have you considered that you may be Gay, i'm not just trying to be funny... shyt man maybe you are.

You must be very young, when your very young you don't really appreciate much, believe me when you get a little older you'll appreciate it alot more.

Your just confused like when you saw your first TIT, you didn't know what the **** was going on... I'd say the girly you were with didn't have the time of her life either, but she's willing to try it again.

You will LOVE the *****, and you will spend the rest of your life trying to get it. You just don't realise it yet. It'll get better.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by Zephyrus
Men KILL each other for *****, and over *****... have you considered that you may be Gay, i'm not just trying to be funny... shyt man maybe you are.

You must be very young, when your very young you don't really appreciate much, believe me when you get a little older you'll appreciate it alot more.

Your just confused like when you saw your first TIT, you didn't know what the **** was going on... I'd say the girly you were with didn't have the time of her life either, but she's willing to try it again.

You will LOVE the *****, and you will spend the rest of your life trying to get it. You just don't realise it yet. It'll get better.

LOL!

I have no comment to this thread. I'm trying to stay positive.

 

[prosemont]

LOL at Walden!!!! ahahaha, dude, you're right ... ME TOO!


I was telling my good friend Cesare Cardinale the other day that sex is a BIOLOGICAL IMPERATIVE. It's almost like you MUST find puzzy and have sex because the urge is so great.

For those of you where that urge is not great ... in my humble (and sometimes not so humble) opinion, those of you who are EVEN ABLE to remain virgins until such a late age *may* have some type of issue, be it low testosterone and hence low libido, high estrogen, or some other type of "issue" with women and sex either from your upbringing or your experience, or to a less frequent extent, I suppose, because you just don't like women.

Take a look at yourself and see if any of these things apply to you.

 

[Hot Ice]

squirrels my brother.
I know what you are talking about.
I definetely do.

It seems that I've lost some of my horniness.
Damn, I have a chick in the line and I could call her for p*ssy, but somehow I don't feel like it.

But you know what?
I think we should do the celibacy challenge again.
Masturbating is one thing that doesn't help me getting horny enough to feel great chacing chicks again!
You know the rules:
No masturbation untill HB7 get's you off somehow (handjob, BJ, sex)
You are in?
hell yeah you are.

Challenge starting day:
4th November 2003

Let's see how long it takes to get some true motivation again!

Cheers!
- Hot Ice

 

[DjDreamer]

Originally posted by aguynamedwill: You're absolutely right though. Sex isn't the holy grail that virgins and pornos make it out to be. But it definetely is a spice to be enjoyed from time to time.

True...

Pook said it best, the way guys on this website focus on women is like little kids engaging in a donut eating contest.

If a man lives his life by following his urges he will experience 3 minutes of pleasure and become deeply in debt.

Control is important.

If you think sex is really important then try Tantra style. Do a sex marathon... You'll either be impatient or you'll realise the insignificance of obtaining maximum pleasure in the next minute.

 

[One on One]

I've told you this on IM, but I will re-state because I think it's important: Take a break from the forum. Do not make excuses about why taking a break will be bad for you. The only reason you don't want to take a break is because you are hooked. You are attached to this forum, dependent on it for the propagation of your sense of self. So, take a break. The advice on this forum has been great for you. The people here have taught you how to fish, but instead of fishing on your own, you come here constantly to be fed fish. Take the training wheels and life preservers off. Walk away from the forums for at least one week.

 

[trevor2003]

Originally posted by 00Kevin
We go after women because for some stupid reason we have the need to be a provider and to give our love to them. If you can live life without ever having that need then all the power to you.
You have broken the bonds of human nature. Your life will be easy and you will be very successful.

WELL I GUESS I HAVE BROKEN THE BONDS OF NATURE!!

I honestly feel I don't need a woman! I'm not getting into another serious relationship for a LONG time!

I'm 20 now, if things go as planned I should get my Business degree by the time i'm 24!

Once I start making money I ain't gonna be stupid and get married! I'm gonna buy myself everything that I want right now but can't afford (fast cars, travel all over the world, a lot of expensive guitars, send my parents on a vacation, etc....)

Women are NOT important to me right now, and by the time i'm in my mid-late 20's i'll be able to get any woman I want!!

 

[SamePendo]

Do what makes you happy.

 

[trevor2003]

Originally posted by SamePendo
Do what makes you happy.

I've never been happier because i finally have complete control over my life!

In my lifetime i've had too many cases of one-it-is, and i've been through the whole LTR stuff!

The lessons I have learned is that if you have to depend on someone else for your happiness, then you have a problem!

I almost dropped out of University in my freshman year in 2001 because I was so depressed about chicks!

I've learned never to let that happen again! I'm glad that I learned this at such a young age, because there are guys on this board a lot older than me that don't have that figured out yet!

Being extremely sucessful in life would make me happy! Anything less than that would be unacceptable!

I'm too busy to pursue women because i'm too busy pursuing my goals. I let women pursue me, and there have been a lot of them doing that lately!

I don't mean to sound ****y, but this is what I truely believe!