What is your guys opinion on dating woman that are really religious when you are not. I'm just asking this coz I met a gal the other day at a party where all the members of a certain church gathered. My friend wanted me to go, so I did. Shes a church girl coz she was at a church party and she said she went to the blah blah church (I dont know if shes hardcore or not, but she seems pretty cool) but assuming she is a deeply religious gal, i want to know if the conflict of her religion and my agnosticism could be bad for the relationship if I decide to let her date me. I don't argue with people about their religion because I believe people have their opinion on what's right and wrong and I respect that, but I know it will be brought up and I don't want to offend her by my choice on religion. Any opinions/suggestions/tips??
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Bible_Belt
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If she is deeply religious, you probably won't have a serious LTR with her.
But women who go to church still fvck, at least a lot of them do. Maybe it depends on the church, but most church attendees are not especially gung-ho about religion.
But women who go to church still fvck, at least a lot of them do. Maybe it depends on the church, but most church attendees are not especially gung-ho about religion.
RogueWarrior
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Depends on the..err...intensity...of the particular flavor of religion. The more devoted they are, the less likely they are to date outside their faith. It's also a VERY convenient excuse to tell you to get lost or LJBF.
If you want to talk, talk to your friends. If you want a girl to like you, listen to her, ask questions, and act like you are on the edge of your seat.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Bible_Belt
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In the Bible, it says not to be "unequally yoked" with unbelievers, referring to marriage.
fwiw, that was Paul in Corinthians, and he wasn't talking about marriage. Paul actually advised new converts to Christianity not to leave their unbelieving spouses.
1Corinthians 7:12
To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband.
fwiw, that was Paul in Corinthians, and he wasn't talking about marriage. Paul actually advised new converts to Christianity not to leave their unbelieving spouses.
1Corinthians 7:12
To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband.
I had one girl become disinterested in me after I told her I don't believe in god. Another it didn't really bother her. I think it depends on the girl and what she thinks of you. For all you know she could make it her mission to "convert" you. I don't think you can generalize on something like this.
Well I can tell you if the Christians are right their God is not vain because I have asked him to prove himself many a time. If he is real he is a humble mother*****r. It is funny though because I always pictured him as a narcissistic, sadist. You know with the whole making us crave sex but then telling us not to have it and making all the best tasting food the worst for you.
Anyway it depends on the woman, I have slept with many deeply religious girls. If anything they are better in bed because they try to hide their sexuality every day of their lives when you get them alone they go wild.
Anyway it depends on the woman, I have slept with many deeply religious girls. If anything they are better in bed because they try to hide their sexuality every day of their lives when you get them alone they go wild.
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Lie.
If she is religous she might do anal to save her virginity.
If she is religous she might do anal to save her virginity.
You'd have to feel her out.
This is a big sticking point for me also (I'm not atheist or agnostic, I'm just not a STRONG believer. It doesn't really DEFINE me the way it does some). I met a girl at a party last night and she was into me. Dropping big hints when I was leaving I should ask for her number. I knew I could have a date next week no problem.
But she was going on about her college (which is an insanely christian school) and about how she's actively involved in her church (which has to be pretty active if it's one of the first things out of your mouth to a guy at a party).
Being active in your church is awesome if that's your thing, but it was a huge turn off for me. That has hassle written all over it.
If she's really into the church I'd say don't even bother. You'll both get in pointless arguments where neither of you will be able to gain any ground on the other person.
The Christian faith does not HAVE to be rational, so arguing about it will likely not get you anywhere. If you're not flexible about your agnosticism and she's not flexible about her own faith it's going to be more hassle than it's worth.
This is a big sticking point for me also (I'm not atheist or agnostic, I'm just not a STRONG believer. It doesn't really DEFINE me the way it does some). I met a girl at a party last night and she was into me. Dropping big hints when I was leaving I should ask for her number. I knew I could have a date next week no problem.
But she was going on about her college (which is an insanely christian school) and about how she's actively involved in her church (which has to be pretty active if it's one of the first things out of your mouth to a guy at a party).
Being active in your church is awesome if that's your thing, but it was a huge turn off for me. That has hassle written all over it.
If she's really into the church I'd say don't even bother. You'll both get in pointless arguments where neither of you will be able to gain any ground on the other person.
The Christian faith does not HAVE to be rational, so arguing about it will likely not get you anywhere. If you're not flexible about your agnosticism and she's not flexible about her own faith it's going to be more hassle than it's worth.
He said not to leave them if you were already married to them, but he said it was wrong for a Christian to get married to an unbeliever in the first place. That's standard church doctrine, and I'm positive that a number of religious girls hold the same view. Op: Don't feel bad if she rejects you.
Of course, getting married isn't the same thing as dating, but in the religious paradigm, marriage is the logical extension of dating. Therefore, a lot of churches say that you shouldn't even date unbelievers.
Dude one of the best LTR's I've ever had was with a religious girl. Granted Im religious myself, but it doesn't change the fact.
She was very playful, outgoing, fun, adventurous, and (ironically) had a KILLER body. Thing is, she has strong morals. And I can totally respect that. I don't care what you PA's think, there's a hell of a lot more to life than just fvcking (not that I would of turned her down
, but still...).
I know it sounds cliche, but I could spend my life with her and be happy. Shame we broke up though, but there's always other girls.
She was very playful, outgoing, fun, adventurous, and (ironically) had a KILLER body. Thing is, she has strong morals. And I can totally respect that. I don't care what you PA's think, there's a hell of a lot more to life than just fvcking (not that I would of turned her down
, but still...).I know it sounds cliche, but I could spend my life with her and be happy. Shame we broke up though, but there's always other girls.
You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
My opinion is, go for it. Remember, regardless of what they believe, they are still flesh and blood women and subject to the same wants and desires as a non-believing woman. If you manage a LTR with them, they will always have that extra reason to be faithful to you and will, out of obligation, be forgiving of you when you "stray".noirsake said:
Your agnosticism gives you a certain degree of power over anyone who is bound by any form of dogma. For you, all options are theoretically "on the table". For someone following dogma, they have rules and restrictions. Thus, if anything, this should make it easier, not harder.
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I dated quite a few religious women, and every one of them were nuts. Religious women have permanently made my "disqualifier" list. It also doesn't help that I'm an atheist.
I thought it was interesting when I was dating a feminist who became interested in religion. She dropped it quickly after I showed her the bible verses that stated "when a woman bleeds for 7 days, she and anything she touches becomes unclean."
I thought it was interesting when I was dating a feminist who became interested in religion. She dropped it quickly after I showed her the bible verses that stated "when a woman bleeds for 7 days, she and anything she touches becomes unclean."
That's a pretty strict position to take simply because the latest poll I saw conducted in the U.S. (sample points taken everywhere) showed that 90% of Americans believe in god, and 80% identify themselves as "Christains". We are a considerable minority. So, you're starting point is 10-20% of the female population.Desdinova said:
Bible_Belt
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Um, no. I don't know where you're getting the "he saids" but it's not Paul and it's not in the Bible. Whatever 'standard church doctrine' is, I don't know, but Paul never wrote that it was wrong to marry an unbeliever. I invite you to find a Bible passage to prove me wrong, but I don't think you will. http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/Obsidian said: