Relationship Game – Are you ready for a Relationship?

[Warrior74]

Don't set up a straw man, I did not say that guys that didn't want to get married were adolescent. I said that the behavior of chasing women for the sole purpose of fvcking them was adolescent.

I agree with that. I just don't see playing the field as the final destination, it's part of the journey. Guys can play the field forever if they want, that's fine. But to me, it's the difference between having a lot of friends and having that one good friend that you know you can rely on. An LTR is a deeper thing.


That sounds pretty cynical. I'm sure there are guys who do that. But what if you just genuinely want to enter into a LTR with someone?

LOL you say its a strawman and then agree with my next statement. Wow. That is pretty much what you said. What is the point of chasing women? To do their freaking laundry for them? Come on son! What's your reason for chasing women? Discussing geopolitical politics with the perfect 10? HA!

Also..I said MOST men who enter LTRs. If we agree that a large majority of men are AFC (omegas, betas) and a large majority follow social conventions, how is that a cynical view? Come on son! The point is to not be most. Enter on your own terms

 

[zekko]

LOL you say its a strawman and then agree with my next statement. Wow. That is pretty much what you said.

I agreed with you when you said guys should play the field until they are tired of it. That is not the same as what I said before, which was that chasing multiple women SOLELY for the purpose of sex seemed adolescent.

The straw man comes in because you were talking about marriage and having children, and implied that I had said that guys who did not seek that were adolescent. That's not what I said.

What is the point of chasing women? To do their freaking laundry for them? Come on son! What's your reason for chasing women? Discussing geopolitical politics with the perfect 10? HA!

First off, don't call me son, I'm old enough to be your father.

Of course, sex is a big part of it. But if you only want the sex and not the human interaction, why even bother to qualify her? Why not just get a blowup doll, or a Real Doll, or a prostitute. I still think that chasing multiple women SOLELY for the sex is adolescent.

Mind you, adolescence is a necessary step in the growing process, so I'm not condemning it outright. But at some point I would expect guys with this mindset to grow out of it.

Which is not to say a mature man would never approach a woman solely for sex. But, and here's the key, I wouldn't expect ALL his relationships with the opposite sex to be so limited.

Also..I said MOST men who enter LTRs. If we agree that a large majority of men are AFC (omegas, betas) and a large majority follow social conventions, how is that a cynical view?

Fair enough.

But so many guys come here with an AFC mindset, and embrace everything the community tells them, and they end up just trading one set of social brainwashed conventions for the next. There's an underlying implication on this forum that men should not allow themselves to be involved in an LTR and I think that's garbage. I will advocate for relationships since no one else around here seems willing to do it (they're probably afraid they will be called women). I'm just trying to provide some balance.

 

[mrRuckus]

What is the point of chasing women? To do their freaking laundry for them? Come on son! What's your reason for chasing women? Discussing geopolitical politics with the perfect 10? HA!

Is this even a serious question?

Women are fun(ish), and it feels good being with them and doing stuff.

I'd often rather hang out with a woman than most individual guys regardless of sex. I don't go clothes shopping, to the zoo, or to the museum with other dudes, and going into public by yourself is boring.

 

[Zarky]

If you're happy and intend to spin plates for awhile than i guess it doesnt apply to you. But if you think, you might eventually get into a relationship, some stuff to consider.

Well it's kind of odd that you should say that because I've had a relationship with a girl for the past 5 years, another relationship ended in 2008 that was 4 years old, I had a 2 year relationship end about 6 months ago, and I have another 2 year relationship going right now.

I do MLTRs as well as short term relps and ONSs in there as well. All this "life mission" mishmash is meaningless to me. I have no mission in life other than to make a bit of money while not working too hard, bone lots of chicks and have a few laughs before I croak. To say you have to "prepare yourself" to enter into relationships seems very strange to me. Just date lots and lots of women and some of them will turn into relationships.

To me it's exactly the same as getting clients for my business. I don't have to "prepare myself" to get clients, I just have to talk and talk and talk and advertise and advertise and advertise and the more people I get my ass in front of the more clients I will get.

My batting average with women is about .010... that is, out of every 100 'at bats,' I get a hit, on average, ONCE. I just happen to have given myself a lot of at-bats over the past 7 or so years, and I don't dump chicks unless they're awful in the sack. This gets me relationships.

 

[boynamedsue]

This is an interesting thread..id like to read more peoples view on this...
also, how does one know when they are truley ready for a relationship?

 

[Zarky]

This is an interesting thread..id like to read more peoples view on this...
also, how does one know when they are truley ready for a relationship?

Just date a ton of chicks.. there's no "ready" or "not ready" for a relationship. You're overthinking things. Some women stick around, most don't. A "relationship" is when they do.

 

[boynamedsue]

Just date a ton of chicks.. there's no "ready" or "not ready" for a relationship. You're overthinking things. Some women stick around, most don't. A "relationship" is when they do.

Thats the thing that irks me.... Why does it have to be when she sticks around... in other words, why is it when the girl decides its ok? I remember the old stereotype was girls always pressuring guys to get into relationships and marriage. The guys is suppose to be scared of commitment and such. How did these dynamics change?