jamesfromhouston
Senior Don Juan
Hello gents.
I have been puzzled about some recent experiences with girls. Would love your opinion(s)!
Recently, I have pursued some girls and gotten more or less the same outcome of rejection despite having IOIs. I'll try summarise some of them to give you an idea:
Girl A:- Influencer girl. She's a 9. From the first date, I kissed her. After that we went on 3 dates. Each time I try to escalate sexually. She always had some form of LMR and stopped me. Always subtly questioned whether I was a player because she has mutuals with girls I casually dated. I ended up fooling around with this girl short of having actual sex. Made her squirt and all. After that time, we met again on one more date, but she withdrew physical intimacy from me and told me that she feels we both have different intentions. (I guess she wants something serious and I told her I am just going with the flow). So we never ended up having sex and I have stopped chasing this one.
Girl B:- Young student girl. She's a 7. On the first date, clear IOIs. Sat very close to me. Laughed at everything I said. Intense eye contact. Hair flips. Touching. Receptive to sexual chats. But throughout the whole interaction, also kept suggesting that she thought I was a player. She called me a player outright at certain points. She commented how I must meet a lot of girls. The buying temperature was very high despite that based on her behaviour. At the end of the night, I went in for the kiss. She rejected me. I tried twice. Both rejections. Very confused. All my experience suggested she would be open to it but she rejected me. The date ended. I may stop pursuing this one.
Girl C: Married woman who I met because she wanted to have some casual sex. She was upfront about this when we met online. She's a 7. On our first physical meet, we had a really good chat. Initially she was a bit careful. She wouldn't sit next to me. But during our chat, she gave a lot of green lights. She told me she thought I was good looking. Told me a lot about her sex life. How she likes to be careful. Commented how she thought I was really attractive and had attractive qualities. A lot of IOIs. We just had a really good time. But at the same time, throughout our first date, she kept asking me if I slept with multiple women, she said she sensed I was a player, she suggested I treat all girls the same, asked if I just pump and dump. At the end of the night, I went in for the kiss. She rejected me. I tried a few times. She would reject me but laugh and sort of dwell around but reject me still. This was also very confusing.
Most of these girls showcase IOIs but they reject my ultimate escalations. Most of them bring up the fact they think I am a player. Yet my SS and RP teachings have always taught me that being seen as a player or a ladies man is a good thing, it is preselection.
When I met all these girls. Embracing my RP philosophy, I was unapologetically myself. I naturally share my outlook on dating with my dates, telling them that I go with the flow. I don't trick them to say I want a serious relationship. When they ask me my past dating experience, I don't lie and tell them that I had serious relationships. I just told them about some of my casual dates and adventures. During dates, I don't creepily escalate, I am always subtle and respectful.
So I am just wondering whether the player/preselection vibes can work against girls? (BTW, most girls I have met in my dating life always commented that they think I am a player.) OR are these just a case of these girls not having the sense of great burning desire for me? Perhaps they were not that attracted to me because I am sure if girls had that sort of desire for a man, they wouldn't reject advances.
What do you guys think?
I have been puzzled about some recent experiences with girls. Would love your opinion(s)!
Recently, I have pursued some girls and gotten more or less the same outcome of rejection despite having IOIs. I'll try summarise some of them to give you an idea:
Girl A:- Influencer girl. She's a 9. From the first date, I kissed her. After that we went on 3 dates. Each time I try to escalate sexually. She always had some form of LMR and stopped me. Always subtly questioned whether I was a player because she has mutuals with girls I casually dated. I ended up fooling around with this girl short of having actual sex. Made her squirt and all. After that time, we met again on one more date, but she withdrew physical intimacy from me and told me that she feels we both have different intentions. (I guess she wants something serious and I told her I am just going with the flow). So we never ended up having sex and I have stopped chasing this one.
Girl B:- Young student girl. She's a 7. On the first date, clear IOIs. Sat very close to me. Laughed at everything I said. Intense eye contact. Hair flips. Touching. Receptive to sexual chats. But throughout the whole interaction, also kept suggesting that she thought I was a player. She called me a player outright at certain points. She commented how I must meet a lot of girls. The buying temperature was very high despite that based on her behaviour. At the end of the night, I went in for the kiss. She rejected me. I tried twice. Both rejections. Very confused. All my experience suggested she would be open to it but she rejected me. The date ended. I may stop pursuing this one.
Girl C: Married woman who I met because she wanted to have some casual sex. She was upfront about this when we met online. She's a 7. On our first physical meet, we had a really good chat. Initially she was a bit careful. She wouldn't sit next to me. But during our chat, she gave a lot of green lights. She told me she thought I was good looking. Told me a lot about her sex life. How she likes to be careful. Commented how she thought I was really attractive and had attractive qualities. A lot of IOIs. We just had a really good time. But at the same time, throughout our first date, she kept asking me if I slept with multiple women, she said she sensed I was a player, she suggested I treat all girls the same, asked if I just pump and dump. At the end of the night, I went in for the kiss. She rejected me. I tried a few times. She would reject me but laugh and sort of dwell around but reject me still. This was also very confusing.
Most of these girls showcase IOIs but they reject my ultimate escalations. Most of them bring up the fact they think I am a player. Yet my SS and RP teachings have always taught me that being seen as a player or a ladies man is a good thing, it is preselection.
When I met all these girls. Embracing my RP philosophy, I was unapologetically myself. I naturally share my outlook on dating with my dates, telling them that I go with the flow. I don't trick them to say I want a serious relationship. When they ask me my past dating experience, I don't lie and tell them that I had serious relationships. I just told them about some of my casual dates and adventures. During dates, I don't creepily escalate, I am always subtle and respectful.
So I am just wondering whether the player/preselection vibes can work against girls? (BTW, most girls I have met in my dating life always commented that they think I am a player.) OR are these just a case of these girls not having the sense of great burning desire for me? Perhaps they were not that attracted to me because I am sure if girls had that sort of desire for a man, they wouldn't reject advances.
What do you guys think?
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