good job in keeping this mature guys.
Firstly, part of what everyone has exposed-- Francisco, Jakethasnake, Hypnotiq, Nocturnal, the-mole etc-- is true . I know for a fact that Asians are stereotyped because of the color of their skin, the structure of their countenance, and the way their hair looks --their overall description.) It is evident in movies, tv shows etc. Also, it is true (as Jake the Snake said) that there myriads of ways of determining success, or who needs help.
Francisco also showed us that it’s not good to classify good “white guys” at fault for things that their counterparts did or are doing (Is that not reverse stereotyping. Before you
guys say anything I am Black, so relax
)
Still regardless of the validity of the points made, I believed we veered from the original purpose of this thread: should asians get affirmative action? Digressing from the main purpose is akin boat sailing in circles in the middle of the atlantic ocean with no
destination. (hmm that was deep
) Just as the boat will keep on sailing forever, this arguement would end up going on and on and on. While I have been aware that Asians were been stereotyped/discriminated against I have not heard anyone say what I have heard here. Thus, I would like to thank you for further enlightening me. Still, we should talk about one point to its conclusion before moving on to another point. Do asians
deserve affirmative action?
Nocturnal put up some good stats, which are very hard to dispute. With asians on the average making more money than even whites, one might say that whites rather deserve to get affirmative action to help them get into better paying jobs. However, this is a contradiction in terms since they are more than adequately -- okay, they are the majority-- represented in these high paying jobs. However, affirmative action was put in place to create a level economic playing field-- and its a shamed endeavour at that. While being stereotyped, being insulted, being dissed etc are all bad things but they don’t keep you from acquiring what is necessary in your life as long as you are
provided with the freedom to do what you want. To further explain this, I’ll present you ballers with two scenarios. In one instance there is a man who is being insulted,
labeled as a chink, as a ******, or as a cracker and who has no money and meagre finances. And on the other hand is the same insulted person with money this time. Though both cases are
fvcked up, you’ll agree with me that the first scenarios is more F’ed up. While the person in the second scenario receives verbal abuse, he still has the means of feeding and providing shelter for himself and his children. In the first scenario, not only is the person being verbally abused but he also can’t feed himself or provide shelter for himself. In short he can’t the purchase/ attain the necessities of life --without which he might die-- in our driven society. This needs to be fixed. And I’ll conjecture that thats why affirmative action was conceived. It was put there to close the
socio-economic gap between the rich and the poor: hispanics and whites, blacks and whites, hispanics and asians, blacks and asians. Having a bad mental health isn’t concrete reason for instituting affirmative action for asians. While Commiting suicide is messed up it still is dependent on ones self and ones self esteem. Being able to afford shelter or food, is dependent on making money and not on your self esteem.
Yes, its true that Asians are all just clumped together-- and thats Fvked up. Picture the government endeavouring to deal with each country individually. Imagine how tedious it will be if they broke up asians into Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese, Sri lankans and blacks into Nigerians, Senegalise, Kenyans, Ugandans, South Africans, and whites in Irish, English, Russians, Germans, bulgarians etc... That would make the governments job
utterly confusing and tedious-- man, had I listed every single country in the world even reading this post would have been tedious and annoying.
Consequently, blacks are lumped together, Asians are lumped together and whites are lumped together. Whats good for one group is good for the other, right. Now, I’m not saying that its right for the government to do so, I’m simply suggesting a logical reason for doing so. If a government did that this would be a completely different arguement.
D@mn, this post is getting too long
, but pleze bare with me.
Quotin Jakethasnake: Asian medical students and medical professionals literally innundate hospitals all across the country. For every black lawyer "stud" coveted by women on shows like Ally Mcbeal and Sex and the City (to give a really gay/corny example, sorry), we should see about 3 Asian doctors and lawyers that fit the same description.
You’ve raised a great point. But don’t you guys think reality is better than fiction. Isn’t it better for a DJ to have numerous girls than to have people think he has numerous girls
(Did i make that up
)
Qouting the mole:
“black people (benzino) complain eminem acts black.”
All I got to say is dude CHILL, you sound exceptionally bitter. While its true, remember it’s only a minority of blacks, namely benzino. Moreover, blacks are not the reason anyone refused affirmative action. If you believe that asians deserve affirmative action, making that kind of argument leads you no where. Make your point, explain why.
In summary, I believe as nocturnal does that affirmative action is based on ones ability to purchase the necessities, but not dependent on one’s emotional well being etc. I’m happy
we are having this discussion, being aware of everything everyone has said makes us all better men.
Thumbs up guys!
