Jesse Pinkman
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So after many months of going out and doing daygame, I decided to add to this thread to give some of you heads up about game in Miami and what it is like. While I have done some approaches, gotten some lays, and had some success, I thought I'd shed some light.
Women her are rude, people here in general are.
Compared to even NYC and any other city I have been in, Miami women are rude as heck. @SW15 mentioned that perhaps it is the heat that makes them this way but whether at bars or out during the day, the women in this city are arrogant, rude, stuck up, prudish, and as judgmental as they come. In other cities, if you went up to women and day gamed them, they would actually give you props for it even if they were taken. In Miami, a lot of women give you that smug "how dare you approach me!" look when you open them. However, there is a rudeness hierarchy amongst the women of Miami and it goes something like this from most rude to least rude:
1. Western European tourists and expats, especially the French, are by far the most rude. French, Scandinavian, and British women here in Miami are an extra level of psycho and prudish. Maybe guys from those countries and western euro men can elaborate more but by far, the worst group in Miami. Italian women are awful too but not nearly as bad as the others.
2. Russian and Eastern European women in Miami are also up there in terms of being rude and unapproachable. I'd say they are almost tied and some are even worse than Western European women. Russian and EE women in Miami have the type of arrogance and narcissism to them that not even western women in general can rival.
3. White women from NYC, NJ, and the northeast tend to be almost as bad as the top two but in a different way. In daygame, they are more approachable and aren't as quick to shut down an approach. In night game, they are by far the cliquiest and most combative. I'll say that even white women from other parts of Florida suck as well and tend to be arrogant.
4. Latinas end up being awful too but not nearly as bad as the top two. Cuban women have been approachable and so have Argentine women. However, Colombian women tend to be the worst of the Latinas in this city.
5. The best are white women from flyover country, southern states, and conservative areas who are by far the most open to being approached and gamed. I have also surprisingly done well with Aussies so make of that what you will @Jake_Gyllenhaal69.
Worth repeating, you'll eat your words about American women being awful once you live in Miami.
Once you realize how narcissistic, materialistic, toxic, rude, and arrogant the Latin and European women in the city of Miami are, you're going to come to the realization that American women aren't as bad as everyone says they are. If there is one thing Miami will do for any guy, it is making him quickly realize that once a woman is taken care of, accounted for, and doesn't have to worry about a green card then she will turn every bit as awful as an American woman. The Eastern European and Russian women of Miami are a great example of that.
Night game here sucks.
Your options for night game in Miami are slim and probably the worst of any major city out there. You have Wynnwood which is ratchet and overrated. Then you have a couple of spots in downtown Miami including one massive outdoor bar. After that, you have the big nightclubs like LIV and Story which are practically loud tourist traps that no one can hear anything at and are made to have to fork over as much as you can. Outside of that, Miami nightlife is garbage and probably the worst of any major US city. On top of that, it is pricey, it's $15 for a drink in a plastic cup.....
Day game here is fruitful.
While Miami's nightlife is one of, if not, the worst of any major US city, the daygame here is very fruitful. I have seen daygame results and there are a few areas to cold approach in. People are largely tolerant of you daygaming here compared to my time in NYC. In NYC, women were in too much of a rush and too bought into the feminist MeToo garbage to entertain daygame approaches as easily. Miami's daytime culture leads itself to some small talk here and there and the warmer weather makes some women chatty and others aroused. However, sometimes while the odds are good, the goods are also odd.
Miami is a pretty good daygame city and I will give it that. I think that I have a lot of work to do here but it has helped me improve my daygame a lot due to just the cultural vibe.
A lot of beautiful women.
Miami definitely has its share of 9s and 10s, even more than NYC and far more than my time in Atlanta. Miami houses some of the best looking women in the country IMO and the best part is that a lot of them are foreign too. If you want to collect all the flags, I cannot find a better city than Miami. You are bound to run into a ton of different nationalities in this city, even more than you would in an NYC, when you are going out at night or daygaming. As someone who wants to screw a bunch of different nationalities, Miami is perhaps the only city that for now is a viable option for me in terms of game in the US. Not even NYC can promise the variety of nationalities in women that Miami can.
It helps you improve your game and yourself in other ways.
When I was in NYC, I could be a chubby dude and still get results. In Miami, that became a lot tougher since the average guy here does lift and does put in the work. You see a ton of guys walking around who are built like a Rugby player and it makes you want to put in the work on your health. I am slowly starting to see changes in my body and becoming more and more fit by the month. In a way, I feel like once I do well in Miami, I am going to go back to NYC and absolutely dominate. While the nightlife has sucked, the amount of self-improvement that Miami has inspired has caused me to be a better version of myself. I also notice that dudes in Miami approach a lot more than the dudes I saw in NYC.
Too many PUAs and pickup guys coming here.
I have seen too many pickup guys and PUAs flood to Miami, especially since the pandemic. A lot of these guys will do their "bootcamps" in the city and ask their awkward students to borderline harass women on the streets. While this might be frustrating to deal with at first, the thing is that most of these guys are quite awkward and have awful game. I have hooked up with women who said that some random guy came up to them, extended his hand out to say "hand to god", and then just jog away out of shyness. I almost spit my drink laughing. I initially thought that the swarm of PUAs meant a lot more competition from these guys but I was wrong. Most of them just stand around doing nothing and if they do approach, they are so awkward with it that anyone with decent approach skills can close. It is easy to stick out because so much of the game being run here is awful game.
Social circle game is overrated.
People will say "just make friends with a guy that has a boat" or whatever. Here is the reality, most of those usually older guys have a ton of dudes trying to pitch them a friendship. Unless you are bringing a lot of girls with you, these guys are not going to entertain your friendship. In other words, for you to get the benefits of "social circle game" in the first place, you have to be a guy who is naturally good at attracting women and bringing them to social events. So it's one of those things where in order to get girls, you have to be good at getting girls.
I also find that social circle game is a massive cope by guys that recently moved here, are taken back by how competitive it is, suck with women, and are hoping some Dan Bilzerian type of guy descends from the sky to save them. I am going to write a bit more about social circle game in the future but for now, I wanted to cap it off with how overrated it is in Miami. In order for you to benefit from it, you have to be good at getting girls at which point, there is not really that much of a point in benefitting from it.
Women her are rude, people here in general are.
Compared to even NYC and any other city I have been in, Miami women are rude as heck. @SW15 mentioned that perhaps it is the heat that makes them this way but whether at bars or out during the day, the women in this city are arrogant, rude, stuck up, prudish, and as judgmental as they come. In other cities, if you went up to women and day gamed them, they would actually give you props for it even if they were taken. In Miami, a lot of women give you that smug "how dare you approach me!" look when you open them. However, there is a rudeness hierarchy amongst the women of Miami and it goes something like this from most rude to least rude:
1. Western European tourists and expats, especially the French, are by far the most rude. French, Scandinavian, and British women here in Miami are an extra level of psycho and prudish. Maybe guys from those countries and western euro men can elaborate more but by far, the worst group in Miami. Italian women are awful too but not nearly as bad as the others.
2. Russian and Eastern European women in Miami are also up there in terms of being rude and unapproachable. I'd say they are almost tied and some are even worse than Western European women. Russian and EE women in Miami have the type of arrogance and narcissism to them that not even western women in general can rival.
3. White women from NYC, NJ, and the northeast tend to be almost as bad as the top two but in a different way. In daygame, they are more approachable and aren't as quick to shut down an approach. In night game, they are by far the cliquiest and most combative. I'll say that even white women from other parts of Florida suck as well and tend to be arrogant.
4. Latinas end up being awful too but not nearly as bad as the top two. Cuban women have been approachable and so have Argentine women. However, Colombian women tend to be the worst of the Latinas in this city.
5. The best are white women from flyover country, southern states, and conservative areas who are by far the most open to being approached and gamed. I have also surprisingly done well with Aussies so make of that what you will @Jake_Gyllenhaal69.
Worth repeating, you'll eat your words about American women being awful once you live in Miami.
Once you realize how narcissistic, materialistic, toxic, rude, and arrogant the Latin and European women in the city of Miami are, you're going to come to the realization that American women aren't as bad as everyone says they are. If there is one thing Miami will do for any guy, it is making him quickly realize that once a woman is taken care of, accounted for, and doesn't have to worry about a green card then she will turn every bit as awful as an American woman. The Eastern European and Russian women of Miami are a great example of that.
Night game here sucks.
Your options for night game in Miami are slim and probably the worst of any major city out there. You have Wynnwood which is ratchet and overrated. Then you have a couple of spots in downtown Miami including one massive outdoor bar. After that, you have the big nightclubs like LIV and Story which are practically loud tourist traps that no one can hear anything at and are made to have to fork over as much as you can. Outside of that, Miami nightlife is garbage and probably the worst of any major US city. On top of that, it is pricey, it's $15 for a drink in a plastic cup.....
Day game here is fruitful.
While Miami's nightlife is one of, if not, the worst of any major US city, the daygame here is very fruitful. I have seen daygame results and there are a few areas to cold approach in. People are largely tolerant of you daygaming here compared to my time in NYC. In NYC, women were in too much of a rush and too bought into the feminist MeToo garbage to entertain daygame approaches as easily. Miami's daytime culture leads itself to some small talk here and there and the warmer weather makes some women chatty and others aroused. However, sometimes while the odds are good, the goods are also odd.
Miami is a pretty good daygame city and I will give it that. I think that I have a lot of work to do here but it has helped me improve my daygame a lot due to just the cultural vibe.
A lot of beautiful women.
Miami definitely has its share of 9s and 10s, even more than NYC and far more than my time in Atlanta. Miami houses some of the best looking women in the country IMO and the best part is that a lot of them are foreign too. If you want to collect all the flags, I cannot find a better city than Miami. You are bound to run into a ton of different nationalities in this city, even more than you would in an NYC, when you are going out at night or daygaming. As someone who wants to screw a bunch of different nationalities, Miami is perhaps the only city that for now is a viable option for me in terms of game in the US. Not even NYC can promise the variety of nationalities in women that Miami can.
It helps you improve your game and yourself in other ways.
When I was in NYC, I could be a chubby dude and still get results. In Miami, that became a lot tougher since the average guy here does lift and does put in the work. You see a ton of guys walking around who are built like a Rugby player and it makes you want to put in the work on your health. I am slowly starting to see changes in my body and becoming more and more fit by the month. In a way, I feel like once I do well in Miami, I am going to go back to NYC and absolutely dominate. While the nightlife has sucked, the amount of self-improvement that Miami has inspired has caused me to be a better version of myself. I also notice that dudes in Miami approach a lot more than the dudes I saw in NYC.
Too many PUAs and pickup guys coming here.
I have seen too many pickup guys and PUAs flood to Miami, especially since the pandemic. A lot of these guys will do their "bootcamps" in the city and ask their awkward students to borderline harass women on the streets. While this might be frustrating to deal with at first, the thing is that most of these guys are quite awkward and have awful game. I have hooked up with women who said that some random guy came up to them, extended his hand out to say "hand to god", and then just jog away out of shyness. I almost spit my drink laughing. I initially thought that the swarm of PUAs meant a lot more competition from these guys but I was wrong. Most of them just stand around doing nothing and if they do approach, they are so awkward with it that anyone with decent approach skills can close. It is easy to stick out because so much of the game being run here is awful game.
Social circle game is overrated.
People will say "just make friends with a guy that has a boat" or whatever. Here is the reality, most of those usually older guys have a ton of dudes trying to pitch them a friendship. Unless you are bringing a lot of girls with you, these guys are not going to entertain your friendship. In other words, for you to get the benefits of "social circle game" in the first place, you have to be a guy who is naturally good at attracting women and bringing them to social events. So it's one of those things where in order to get girls, you have to be good at getting girls.
I also find that social circle game is a massive cope by guys that recently moved here, are taken back by how competitive it is, suck with women, and are hoping some Dan Bilzerian type of guy descends from the sky to save them. I am going to write a bit more about social circle game in the future but for now, I wanted to cap it off with how overrated it is in Miami. In order for you to benefit from it, you have to be good at getting girls at which point, there is not really that much of a point in benefitting from it.
