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Hi guys,
I'm writing this one to see your take on things. Last night, I was out with a colleague. We seem to hit it off really well and both have similar interests, however, during dinner he tells me he is going to ask his girlfriend to marry and in the same breath tells me that he thinks its okay for her to cheat on him once. I was a little blown away and maybe jumped the gun on this one a bit but I tried to intro him to game without slamming him... it was a touchy subject because I could see he is completely omega male on this one. Wife has short hair, he likes long hair and he feels she doesn't care. They live a long way from the city because of wife's job and wishes he was closer. She makes about equivalent money to him. I couldn't help myself as he rattled off red flags, it was like watching a slow motion trainwreck. I tried to tell him about 'The Game' while at the same time offering a red pill/blue pill analogy.
He became a little flustered, he is certainly an above average intelligence kind of guy and quickly wanted to leave. I felt as though I was offering him a religion as I mentioned it would be a new way to help him see the world by 'studying' the material.
As many of the forum members are fully opposed to marriage and are educated quite extensively on the subject, I would likely offer more support to them if they chose to marry or not to marry from THEIR standpoint. This is what I wanted to offer to him but what came out was more awkward and weird than anything. I felt terrible later on as he went into full denial mode and wasn't willing to jeporadize anything he had with his gf. What could have been a very cool relationship between two friends, suddenly went sour.
He gave me an analogy that fat people like cake, just like people like to cheat and if you step between them and the cake then you'll only make them angry and not want to be friends with you. I countered that you should not be around the fat person as they will eventually destroy your life for eating the cake. In my mind, eating the cake would provide temporary satisfaction while ruining this person's life in the long run, whilst denying the cake would change the fat person's life for the better. The reason many people are disgusted with their spouses for eating the cake would be because they wouldn't eat the cake themselves. It would eventually drive you insane letting an important person in your life destroy themselves. I said that I have the expectation of my wife not to cheat as I have the same expectation of myself. My brother is a recovering alcoholic whose vices ruined his life and screwed up a large part of his health and relationships with others.. what you are unable to control in yourself, will eventually control you and negatively affect those around you. He said he didn't share that viewpoint and thought it was perfectly ok for his soon to be wife to cheat on him... I felt as though this was already happening in their relationship and was a defense mechanism of sorts.
His view didn't extend from an alpha pespective on cheating but an omega cuckold one. We had a previous conversation where he told me his gf and he had come to the conclusion that gender was only a construct...more likely his wife is a feminist and been busily brainwashing him. It is such a waste to be in China and have THIS mindset, basically eating out of the trash at a 5 star buffet. The women here are submissive and great but it seems like omega westerners are coming here and choosing the most westernized women they can find.
I felt as if he was calling out for help but maybe I jumped the gun here. I feel as though I may have lost a perfectly good soldier....
Why am I so upset? Is my crusade against feminism ruining potential friendships or is feminism ruining the common man? Game has changed my life, made it better in many respects. Admittedly, game has ruined my ability to be 'happy' with 'the one' but allowed me to select my mate through careful testing, qualification and selection. I know I am getting quality because I have such a rigid standard for a woman. I don't mean to jump down anyone's back for it but I think when entering into marriage, you have to select the best possible mate for you, not just choose her because you 'love' her and aren't able to pinpoint reasons for this. In many ways, I'm not 'in love' with my wife as I know my north american brainwashing has programmed me to seek unhealthy relationships and fall 'in love'. My wife possess almost none of the qualities I have found attractive in the past but logically hers will be very healthy for me in the future and for raising a family. I really believe this is what marriage is for: raising a family. I believe one must select the best possible female with family raising characteristics as opposed to slutiness/sexuality or blind attraction. I guess I'm saying, you have to kill the 'in love' part of you before you are able to see clearly what marriage is and how it can be an advantage for the man.
I made the analogy to my wife tonight that there are two types of women: fruit and candy. You can eat as much fruit as you like, it makes you healthier and it tastes pretty good. You can also eat Candy, and while candy is sweeter than fruit initially, it will rot your teeth in the long run and will make you sick in the end if you eat too much. My wife was a little upset but I assured her that I do dip my fruit in chocolate occassionally in the form of sexy clothing for my wife, however, you can't dip your candy in fruit and make it any healthier for you. I have never heard of anyone eating a healthy diet consisting of pure candy with a little fruit on the side.
In my colleague's situation his 'wife to be' is neither fruit nor candy. More like a watermelon sized turd wrapped in a banana peel and dipped in chocolate.
Am I wrong here?
I'm writing this one to see your take on things. Last night, I was out with a colleague. We seem to hit it off really well and both have similar interests, however, during dinner he tells me he is going to ask his girlfriend to marry and in the same breath tells me that he thinks its okay for her to cheat on him once. I was a little blown away and maybe jumped the gun on this one a bit but I tried to intro him to game without slamming him... it was a touchy subject because I could see he is completely omega male on this one. Wife has short hair, he likes long hair and he feels she doesn't care. They live a long way from the city because of wife's job and wishes he was closer. She makes about equivalent money to him. I couldn't help myself as he rattled off red flags, it was like watching a slow motion trainwreck. I tried to tell him about 'The Game' while at the same time offering a red pill/blue pill analogy.
He became a little flustered, he is certainly an above average intelligence kind of guy and quickly wanted to leave. I felt as though I was offering him a religion as I mentioned it would be a new way to help him see the world by 'studying' the material.
As many of the forum members are fully opposed to marriage and are educated quite extensively on the subject, I would likely offer more support to them if they chose to marry or not to marry from THEIR standpoint. This is what I wanted to offer to him but what came out was more awkward and weird than anything. I felt terrible later on as he went into full denial mode and wasn't willing to jeporadize anything he had with his gf. What could have been a very cool relationship between two friends, suddenly went sour.
He gave me an analogy that fat people like cake, just like people like to cheat and if you step between them and the cake then you'll only make them angry and not want to be friends with you. I countered that you should not be around the fat person as they will eventually destroy your life for eating the cake. In my mind, eating the cake would provide temporary satisfaction while ruining this person's life in the long run, whilst denying the cake would change the fat person's life for the better. The reason many people are disgusted with their spouses for eating the cake would be because they wouldn't eat the cake themselves. It would eventually drive you insane letting an important person in your life destroy themselves. I said that I have the expectation of my wife not to cheat as I have the same expectation of myself. My brother is a recovering alcoholic whose vices ruined his life and screwed up a large part of his health and relationships with others.. what you are unable to control in yourself, will eventually control you and negatively affect those around you. He said he didn't share that viewpoint and thought it was perfectly ok for his soon to be wife to cheat on him... I felt as though this was already happening in their relationship and was a defense mechanism of sorts.
His view didn't extend from an alpha pespective on cheating but an omega cuckold one. We had a previous conversation where he told me his gf and he had come to the conclusion that gender was only a construct...more likely his wife is a feminist and been busily brainwashing him. It is such a waste to be in China and have THIS mindset, basically eating out of the trash at a 5 star buffet. The women here are submissive and great but it seems like omega westerners are coming here and choosing the most westernized women they can find.
I felt as if he was calling out for help but maybe I jumped the gun here. I feel as though I may have lost a perfectly good soldier....
Why am I so upset? Is my crusade against feminism ruining potential friendships or is feminism ruining the common man? Game has changed my life, made it better in many respects. Admittedly, game has ruined my ability to be 'happy' with 'the one' but allowed me to select my mate through careful testing, qualification and selection. I know I am getting quality because I have such a rigid standard for a woman. I don't mean to jump down anyone's back for it but I think when entering into marriage, you have to select the best possible mate for you, not just choose her because you 'love' her and aren't able to pinpoint reasons for this. In many ways, I'm not 'in love' with my wife as I know my north american brainwashing has programmed me to seek unhealthy relationships and fall 'in love'. My wife possess almost none of the qualities I have found attractive in the past but logically hers will be very healthy for me in the future and for raising a family. I really believe this is what marriage is for: raising a family. I believe one must select the best possible female with family raising characteristics as opposed to slutiness/sexuality or blind attraction. I guess I'm saying, you have to kill the 'in love' part of you before you are able to see clearly what marriage is and how it can be an advantage for the man.
I made the analogy to my wife tonight that there are two types of women: fruit and candy. You can eat as much fruit as you like, it makes you healthier and it tastes pretty good. You can also eat Candy, and while candy is sweeter than fruit initially, it will rot your teeth in the long run and will make you sick in the end if you eat too much. My wife was a little upset but I assured her that I do dip my fruit in chocolate occassionally in the form of sexy clothing for my wife, however, you can't dip your candy in fruit and make it any healthier for you. I have never heard of anyone eating a healthy diet consisting of pure candy with a little fruit on the side.
In my colleague's situation his 'wife to be' is neither fruit nor candy. More like a watermelon sized turd wrapped in a banana peel and dipped in chocolate.
Am I wrong here?
