Red Alert . . . Escalating Kino . . . not always the best move?? Dong Fu Discovery

[Dongfu]

I had an interesting encounter the other night at a girls house. We were finally in her bed, and we had been discussing sex earlier, and I was sure I would close the deal, no problem, as usual.

However, upon escalating kino, the girl says she doesnt like when guys do that. She said she prefers the guy to sort of ignore her, and maybe just lay down for a while without trying anything.

So that's exactly what I did. I rolled over and turned my back on her and said I was tired and that I wanted to rest. Sure enough, after a few minutes, she came to me. Closed the deal.

The point of this post is, I wonder how many other women think like this? Could this be more common than we realize? Or is this girl just a rare case?

She was basically a nice, cool girl. Average looking. Fun personality. Nothing out of the ordinary.

 

[SteakAndRice]

Hah wow my respect for you just went down the drain.

 

[D!ck Ramsey]

This has happened to me before. These chicks are a rare breed who like to initiate the first sexual encounter. You did the right thing but next time tease them more. Its okay to escalate kino, but remember that you shouldnt turn up the heat full blast, turn up 2 notches, then down one notch..continue the cycle until she is begging for the meat injection.

 

[just another newb??]

i guess thers something wrong with her...

 

[Dongfu]

Hah wow my respect for you just went down the drain.

Wow, my feelings are really hurt :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

 

[ketostix]

This is not really new. it's a well known tactic to lie down with a woman and ignore her till she makes a move. It's called a freeze out and is usually suggested to use when a girl gives LMR. What is unusual is for a girl to tell you exactly what she wants you to do and actually mean it. I think you mis-label your post about kino not always being good, which I don't disagree with. It's more like, trying to physically escalate isn't always a good move.

 

[wayword]

The point of this post is, I wonder how many other women think like this? Could this be more common than we realize? Or is this girl just a rare case?

It's actually happened to me too.

Thing is, you never know a girl's background. Maybe her last ex was an over-aggressive player. So, if you play it cooler, you will actually come off better to her by comparison.

And maybe I'm not doing it right, but I find when I over-kino past her comfort zone, it sort of backfires and turns her off.

So, calibration is key, my friends...

 

[ER!C L!VE]

Homie, you were way past kino escalation. You use kino escalation to get the girl hot and bothered and comfortable around you.

What you encountered is what Mystery has been teaching for years. Are you sure you're qualified to write a book about this?

Mystery calls your situation Last Minute Resistance (LMR). You countered it with a FREEZE OUT (To ignore a women in order to have her seek validation from you.)

If you're in bed with a girl, then you're WAY past kino escalation.

http://www.howtoadvice.com/Preview/Henbbfm/

Last Minute Resistance (LMR)

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by Mysterymethod

LMR is the second of the Seduction phases (the first is arousal, the last is the sexual act itself). LMR occurs whenever a woman resists physical escalation in the Seduction phase. So here are couple of quick tips.

1.When she says "we shouldn't be doing this" agree with her. Respond with "Yes we shouldn't be doing this . . . and we definitely shouldn't be doing THIS . . . you are so bad" changes the frame from 1) her resisting you to 2) you two sharing a conspiracy over doing something you shouldn't be doing to 3) her seducing you by being bad. Again, remember that no means no.

2.You don't have to let a woman choose the level of physical intimacy you two will have. You can't insist on sex if she isn't willing, but you don't have to accept her chosen substitute. She may want to lie in bed with you and make out all night. You may want sex. Neither of you is obligated to give the other what they want. Explain to her, without ANY resentment, that lying in bed with her all night kissing will make you aroused, and that's painful for a man. Instead,turn on the lights, get out of bed, and do something boring with her like play checkers. Don't make it too fun, but appear COMPLETELY unphased by what happened and not at all put out. Make it entirely non-sexual. When she reinitiates touching and kissing, escalate it. If she says no, say "I understand" and turn all the lights back on, put the candles out, turn the music off, and play checkers again. Do this all without any trace of frustration.

3.Every guy knows this, but when you remove a woman's skirt or pants, take her underwear off at the same time in the same motion (i.e., grab both). If you leave her underwear on, taking it off later is a major state break.

4.Play the resister sometimes. Be the first one to say "we shouldn't be doing this" even while you escalate.

5.Take your time. Act like you've been here before. Don't rush to put it in her. Don't get nervous you're going to lose the girl. Have fun. Don't be too seriou

 

[BlackJackal]

This is not really new. it's a well known tactic to lie down with a woman and ignore her till she makes a move. It's called a freeze out and is usually suggested to use when a girl gives LMR. What is unusual is for a girl to tell you exactly what she wants you to do and actually mean it. I think you mis-label your post about kino not always being good, which I don't disagree with. It's more like, trying to physically escalate isn't always a good move.

Agreed. Though I never called it a name, I just did to do it during LMR...lol. But in any case it does make them jump for what the want when they know they're bullsh!tin.

 

[Real]

She was basically a nice, cool girl. Average looking. Fun personality. Nothing out of the ordinary.

why are you with an average girl?

 

[ElStud]

why are you with an average girl?

Real shutup, stop trolling threads. What the hell does that question have to do with the topic? Zero, zilch. It's enough you're trolling my topics, but this is just dumb. It's truly a mystery that why after all you've done, you haven't been rebanned. Do they simply like keeping no good trolls on this forum?

 

[Grand Wizzard Alamar]

She said she prefers the guy to sort of ignore her.

haha weird, I'd say this girl is pretty uncommon from most others.

 

[Real]

Real shutup, stop trolling threads. What the hell does that question have to do with the topic? Zero, zilch. It's enough you're trolling my topics, but this is just dumb. It's truly a mystery that why after all you've done, you haven't been rebanned. Do they simply like keeping no good trolls on this forum?

i didnt wanna get into what this guy did wrong so i pointed out the not so obvious - why is he SETTLING and hooking with an AVERAGE GIRL instead of a hottie?

 

[Grand Wizzard Alamar]

i didnt wanna get into what this guy did wrong so i pointed out the not so obvious - why is he SETTLING and hooking with an AVERAGE GIRL instead of a hottie?

An average girl is anywhere between HB6.0 and 7.9 ... who really cares if a girl is perfect or not?

Would you trade your own mother for a pornstar (accurately assuming your mother isn't one )?

 

[Real]

average is a 5

5 is between 0 and 10, thus average

a 7 would be a girl with a hot body and an average face, or a beautiful face and an average body........i rate chicks with logic


example would be, im personally an AZZ man, so if i see a white girl with a perfecly round booty, but her face is average and her body is average, id still give her a 9

 

[Grand Wizzard Alamar]

i rate chicks with logic

Duh logic doesn't work (the average girl is a HB5, an HB5 looks average?)
I think a 5 is an UG, I think a 7 is an average HB.

go figure lol

I just give a 0 to anyone under 6 so I don't get confused haha

 

[Snow Plowman]

I had an interesting encounter the other night at a girls house. We were finally in her bed, and we had been discussing sex earlier, and I was sure I would close the deal, no problem, as usual.

However, upon escalating kino, the girl says she doesnt like when guys do that. She said she prefers the guy to sort of ignore her, and maybe just lay down for a while without trying anything.

So that's exactly what I did. I rolled over and turned my back on her and said I was tired and that I wanted to rest. Sure enough, after a few minutes, she came to me. Closed the deal.

The point of this post is, I wonder how many other women think like this? Could this be more common than we realize? Or is this girl just a rare case?

She was basically a nice, cool girl. Average looking. Fun personality. Nothing out of the ordinary.

Yea, some girls are like that...that's there "blueprint". Some girl's blueprint might be to seduce, others want that caveman style, etc.

It's alittle too deep focusing on such little things but it can help. This chick loves to seduce men or feel that they did it so they like men to just ignore her and she'll come to him when she's ready.

 

[Real]

Duh logic doesn't work (the average girl is a HB5, an HB5 looks average?)
I think a 5 is an UG, I think a 7 is an average HB.

go figure lol

I just give a 0 to anyone under 6 so I don't get confused haha

wow i just noticed, you are FIFTEEN YEARS OLD........wow i was such a grand loser back then when i was 15.......i didnt even bother to talk to girls period, unless it was to help them with hw, and then id jerk off thinking about how they were nice to me and how our legs rubbed on each other (im serious)

anyway, your 15, you don't understand shyt (neither did i when i was 15)

 

[Grand Wizzard Alamar]

i didnt even bother to talk to girls period

I'm already doing better than you then

Bet you're an old grampa just looking on how to seduce little girls... werido.

 

[DonRaul]

There is nothing unusual here. Come one guys... Don Juan is rolling in his grave as we speak!

All women have a certain comfort zone. If you escalate kino too quickly or just get plain aggressive, it can turn off any women. Ignoring a women in bed is a great tactic on ANY WOMEN, however you need to get her thinking about sex. If shes not in the mood and you just stay on bed and roll to the side she may just tuck you in .

The key here is that presence comes before absence!!!!