FlirtLife
Master Don Juan
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Ah look, a waste of a post with a waste of a reply - do tell us more.Waste of a thread.
Ah look, a waste of a post with a waste of a reply - do tell us more.Waste of a thread.
Agreed.Hypergamy amongst women may be somewhat overblown but not completely. It's
to been part of human culture too long and to be dismissive of it would be foolish as a strategy in developing your game.
Very few men do approaches, even at bars/clubs. There isn't any speculation in his point. I'm out frequently and no one approaches, and those who do are extremely drunk and have... issues.1- Valid yet speculative.
One thousand percent wrong on your end. It's apparent that you've never taken a look at a woman's Tinder, which is an indicator that you don't interact with many women. Dudes definitely lose their **** at the idea of taking better photos and paying a few dollars to get massive leverage on the major dating apps. In fact, that advice has been field tested and proven time and time again. This is not up for discussion; you're flat out wrong.2- Purely speculative unless you search out men's profiles on OLD, which I doubt.
Again, this isn't speculation. This occurs frequently; a woman's friends are going to hold her back the most. Not even sure why you think this is speculation, but again it;'s clear you don't get out much.3- More speculation with hypothetical situations that don't always exist.
Look at his post history and set him on Ignore like I did; his game is whack and his posts are a waste of time to read. He's leveled himself. Dude has more posts in two years than I did in 15, and I was out every weekend posting field reports and lay reports back then.Ah look, a waste of a post with a waste of a reply - do tell us more.
What are your rules for successful profile pics?Dudes definitely lose their **** at the idea of taking better photos
Who said it was easy?In conclusion, Hypergamy is more complex than a girl just running in to Prince Charming Chad at Publix and living happily ever after.
Care to elaborate on the sexual options of women?I agree Hypergamy is over dramatised by men as is the amount of sexual options average working women realistically have
But it would be foolish too completely ignore it
Iv'e seen first hand what women are capable of when actively looking to "trade up" and its usually girls who have been in stale relationships / marriages too long
There are a lot of emotional ,psychological and physical steps she must go through to get there but it does happen
They’re not **my** rules per se. There are abundant resources on this topic. But the general idea is to take well-lit photos that show your face and body, and you doing interesting things.What are your rules for successful profile pics?
If you put up a FB post/IG post and you got 200+ likes from land whales and ugly women, would you really be inclined to fvck one of them? This is the equivalent of what you are talking about for women. Chad is either in a relationship or hoe phase and doesn’t have the time to be stalking girls DMs.Care to elaborate on the sexual options of women?
Have you ever checked what happens when a woman puts out a semi-sexy picture on her IG/Facebook/whatever?
Amongst 200+ likes of that pic will be 50 orbiters waiting for their chance to get into her pvssy.
Even a hidious landwhale can draw from a solid stock of orbiters to fvck her.
"Stale relationships"...... that is quite a relative term, but yes..... in perspective to being pumped by chad, good old reliable hubby she has 2 kids with might taste stale.
Emotional, psychological and physical steps........ thats what she has her slutty friends for that tell her she deserves more.
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
Yea the problem is have you seen the men whom are those orbiters ? , they are basement dwellers of outright creepsCare to elaborate on the sexual options of women?
Have you ever checked what happens when a woman puts out a semi-sexy picture on her IG/Facebook/whatever?
Amongst 200+ likes of that pic will be 50 orbiters waiting for their chance to get into her pvssy.
Even a hidious landwhale can draw from a solid stock of orbiters to fvck her.
If you put up a FB post/IG post and you got 200+ likes from land whales and ugly women, would you really be inclined to fvck one of them? This is the equivalent of what you are talking about for women. Chad is either in a relationship or hoe phase and doesn’t have the time to be stalking girls DMs.
I think hypergamy is more of an issue with women that have zero standards in men. I know a few women like this who i am friends with. I listen to their post divorce dating woes more for my own entertainment. These women constantly sort through piles of low value men and losers. If i showed them a flicker of interest they'd walk over hot coals for me... they are doing the opposite of hypergamy.. maybe it should be called hypogamy.. going for downgrades because they either have to or don't have good taste.I agree Hypergamy is over dramatised by men as is the amount of sexual options average working women realistically have
But it would be foolish too completely ignore it
Iv'e seen first hand what women are capable of when actively looking to "trade up" and its usually girls who have been in stale relationships / marriages too long
There are a lot of emotional ,psychological and physical steps she must go through to get there but it does happen
You beat me to it. It does seem like this is going on.The difference is that most men bottom feed from time to time, and she only needs the Mr avg smv6 guy to boink her once - there will be another one available next week. And if she’s a 4/5 she doesn’t particularly care what penis ends up in her as long as it’s higher value than she is.
Men (most) are much more indiscriminate than women are.
The premise of this is a bit silly because it is focused on non-bar approaching. Non-bar approaching has always been a bit of a niche activity. Few men have the guts to start interactions in non-bar venues, and that's true for Chads, Normies, and Sub 5's.1). Most of the guys approaching women aren’t high value- Chad isn’t over here spitting game on women at Publix, it is Fareed the T-mobile salesman, Abuja the bling bling Nigerian, Darius the “Successful Entrepreneur” yet lives in the hood with a 400 credit score, and Skippy the weird white guy. Sorry, but I have never seen a Chad outside approaching women. Even the PUA channel guys like Playing with Fire and FitxFearless, I am not scared of one bit lol. Bottomline, she is not going to just run in to some Chad during a Publix grocery store run. If she wants to suddenly start meeting high value men then she is going to have to make some huge adjustments to her lifestyle to get that point.
This is true but a woman has abundance. A woman can easily have 310 men who right swipe on her in a week and end up in her swipe queue. If 300 men are Average Frustrated Chumps/betas and 10 men are top tier/Chad, that's abundance for her. She's not going to have 10 top tier men approach her between non-bar venues and nightlife venues in a week. It's worth it to her to weed through the chumps to get to the top tier men.2). The apps are full of idiots with no game- If you learn how the apps work then it is easy because most guys are too lazy and selfish to become successful on there. For example, tell a guy he has to have a decent set of pictures/pay 5 dollars for a premium service and he will lose his shvt. Furthermore, most guys put minimum effort in to their profile & conversations and act like weirdos on the dates they manager to get. Your app competition should be the least of your concern.
This is interesting. A lot of this depends on her beta boyfriend. If she met her beta boyfriend through social circle, she's less inclined to deal with the hurdles. If she met her beta boyfriend through a tech-based method or an in-person method, she is likely more willing to go through the hurdles. Additionally, you do not account for how long she's been with her current beta and how much attraction she has lost for him due to the passage of time and men's typical increase in beta behaviors/loss of initial frame as time goes on.5). The risk and work it takes to cheat- Okay, so let’s say your girl/wife does meet Mr. Chad and he has shot his shot at her. Assuming she’s in a decent relationship and she wants to act on opportunity alone; here are the hurdles she will have to face.
A). Is this guy actually single- Is he married? Is he a play boy? Why risk losing an already good setup at home to be dumped in the streets later?
B). The Social Repercussions and Reputational Damage- If Amy has been dating Brad and he is popular in the group and suddenly Brad has been dumped for Chad because of his looks, Amy’s friend group is going to give her push back. Especially if Chad is incompatible with Amy in the long run and her friends. Integrating a sudden Chad in her social circle and family isn’t as simple as 123.
C). The Talking and Dumping Phase- Now Amy has an additional task of vetting Chad for a relationship while maintaining her own relationship/social life and having to end things with Brad.
D). The high risk of the new relationship not panning out- More than likely, this relationship will fail and she will be humiliated and left in the dust without any poker chips left to spare. Does she really want to risk this scenario?
D). Why not just have a one night stand with Chad and let it be?- There is always a risk of getting caught, emotional consequences,STDs & STIs, Pregnancy, Chad being a psychopath, and Chad catching feelings.
Hmm you seem to be getting into fights on a daily basis.Those kinds of responses are exactly why I’ve migrated to forums where the dudes are required to post photos of themselves and discuss things like normal people.
I’ve yet to meet anyone that is normal from this site, and I’ve been here for a decade plus.
If you don’t see the value in OPs post, that’s a good thing for those who do.
Just ignored those two clowns to make my life easier since they don’t offer much reading value.
You're probably getting more efficient use of your time by ignore/block of people who waste it.Look at his post history and set him on Ignore like I did; his game is whack and his posts are a waste of time to read. He's leveled himself. Dude has more posts in two years than I did in 15, and I was out every weekend posting field reports and lay reports back then.
Why do so many of you invest so much in trying to MOG each other? Seriously, it’s all in yer head.
Disagreement is vital to understanding. If everyone accepts whatever is said, we become a group of female friends. The trick is keeping it focused on exchange of information. I think it goes wrong when the attacks become personal, and there's no consequences for it. Maybe moderators need a brief ban they use more often for personal attacks - I rarely see those stopped, currently....
Just chill TFO, have decent discussions where there space for improvement, to listen and learn and even suggest somewhat out the box ideas. Hostility is whats killing these forums.
Mods talked to me about it; I’ll admit that I shouldn’t have done that and presented the info more respectfully. Just very frustrated because I’ve seen what excessive PUA content does to people as far as their personality and vibe.Disagreement is vital to understanding. If everyone accepts whatever is said, we become a group of female friends. The trick is keeping it focused on exchange of information. I think it goes wrong when the attacks become personal, and there's no consequences for it. Maybe moderators need a brief ban they use more often for personal attacks - I rarely see those stopped, currently.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I see the MOG'ing and hostility at its worst in personal attacks, not so much with different views.
It takes a big man to admit his mistakes. So with this post you definitely gain some points and respect from me, whatever that's worth.Mods talked to me about it; I’ll admit that I shouldn’t have done that and presented the info more respectfully. Just very frustrated because I’ve seen what excessive PUA content does to people as far as their personality and vibe.
You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.