Realistic Dating Guide for an Expat in China- Daygame life in Second Tier Cities – Changsha, Wuhan , Yunnan Province Guide :
Disclaimer: I am not a dating coach nor am I selling any dating products or services this blog is really for recreational usage to reflect on my previous experiences in daygame and to share my insi…
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I spent a while day gaming in several cities in China back in 2019 - I later revisited the Country in 2024 (not for daygame as I was in relationship by that time ) but went to practice my Chinese and check out how the country had faired post lockdown to see if it was still a decent place to meet new women and expand dating horizons in 2024 - keeping into account some factors like rent price, infrastructure , quality of women , education of women in said cities and the quality of dating venues available - Any Questions just ask !
Advantages of gaming in a Second Tier City Chinese City:
Cheap Rent- Compared to major Chinese cities like Guangzhou , Shanghai , Shenzen - The rent and hotel costs in second tier cities like Changsha and Kunming are pale , especially in comparison to western cities in the US and UK. This makes setting logistics easy - also as per my experiences in 2019 day hotels can be easily rented at around £10-20 for 4 hours. Looking at hotel prices certain ones do special deals for month to month rent for example Fraser Suites Changsha offer £600 a month rent to stay there (four star hotel), which comes with a gym and pool . However you can get cheaper branded hotels that range from £400-500 a month rent.
Large footfall- most b tier cities in the UK and France for example Montpellier (France) or Cambridge (UK) have very low footfall and not many new faces arriving on a weekly basis relative to China, major Chinese cities are usually densely populated which means you can approach a lot of new people easily and won’t have to worry about running into the same people over and over again akin to the "b tier" European cities .
Tourist sites attract a lot of people from other cities- Places like Dali - In Yunnan region of China attract a huge amount of tourists from other other cities on an almost weekly basis a lot of the times from neighbouring countries like Malaysia, Singapore , Thailand - this ensures fresh foot flow and means you won’t get bored with the same faces.
Restaurants and Coffee shops are cheaper Relative to the west : Restaurants costs a fraction of the price they do in the UK and US with no service charge , coffees and alcoholic are also generally cheaper too over 20-30 dates you’ll find yourself saving money over time relative to dating in the west .It also makes doing a variety of things with the women you date without breaking the bank. Apps like Mei Tuan and Dianping App can be used to score good deals on food and drink in every major city on everything from breakfast, lunch , dinner, coffee, wine and ****tails
Cheap as **** Taxis: Using the Didi app you’re able to book cheap taxis that often come to no more than 10-20 RMB a ride, relative to how much I spend on public transport and train alone in London which is roughly 160 RMB a day - you gotta take around 8 10 minute taxis in Kunming or changsha in one day to reach my average daily public transport expenditure in London. It also makes leading the dates easier and you can do faster bounces from place to place or if you are moving towards sex you can bring her back more efficiently when her buying temperature is highest.
Low Competition: Usually in second tier cities in China there are less rich and attractive men, plus you usually get more men with confidence issues in Asian countries typically - this means less competition and more likelihood in people treating you well so long as you have half decent SMV. Compared to Western Europe/ the States , London , Paris , the competition is minimal here by comparison . When I gamed here in 2019 I found it far easier to maintain the frame on dates and overall felt better respected by the women I was dating. The low income of men here means that they do a lot less interesting things with their life so their SMV development is likely to be stunted compared to yours , also noticeability the men usually have worse career prospects in second tier cities, usually unimpressive physiques compared to western men and are on average a lot shorter. Overall the expectations are lower when doing daygame in these cities.
Large Varieties of Things to do - Lots of coffee shops and bars make it easier to lead on dates and create interesting adventures, its also easier to find dating spots that aren’t overcrowded due to the excessive choice available on apps like Mei Tuan.
Cheap Gyms- Often times gyms offer £1 free day passes or cheap monthly passes of £10-20 making SMV and appearance easy to maintain here- gym prices can be as much as 20-30 percent the price of a London gym and are more often than not empty due to the lack of gym culture in China.
Disadvantages in Gaming in Second Tier Cities
Sometimes you can run into boring / “overly simplistic” women : Due to the low wages here women tend to travel less and do less interesting things with their lives this may lead to potential boring conversations or stalled interactions .
Language Barrier problems- usually the poorer the city the worse English you will experience from the women you approach and interact with . This goes for any Non-English city you do daygame in typically . It maybe recommend to learn some Chinese before gaming IN a second tier Chinese city- for example someone in a rich city LIKE Guangzhou or Shenzen will most likely have better English ability than someone living somewhere where the economy and school quality is relatively ****ty like Kunming or Changsha . This again might lead to stalled interactions - so at worse be prepared with google translate - at best you could learn some Chinese before you do game here.
Food Options can be a bit suspect: if you’re like me and take you health and nutrition seriously it maybe kinda tough in a second tier city as most restaurants usually import their beef from Brazil or Argentina which can be frozen for many months leaving beef that has an awkward texture - every time I ate steak out in these cities it was rough and weird. This problem might be solved by downloading the TaoBao app of which you can buy Australian beef or Grass fed organic protein powders from .
Limited Race options: If you don’t like Asian women then second tier Chinese cities probably aren’t the one for variety- if you want more variety in terms of race you are better off gaming in Hong Kong, Shanghai ,Beijing or somewhere of that sort. You may meet a variety of different Asian from Chinese , Malays, Singaporeans , Hong Kongers etc. but if you want anything non Asian then second tier Chinese cities aren’t the one really .
Good Apps to Download before your daygame trip :
MetiTuan App: Great App to download which gives you discounts on food and coffee shops - google is blocked in china so chances are it won’t keep you up to date with modern date locations the same way Mei Tuan app will.
DianPing App : Another App similar to Meituan which offers good decent date selections and discounts on coffee shops and bars. A must to download if you plan on staying in China long term.
TaoBao: best app for ordering western products- sometime these are sold at a premium but if you wanna get some Aussie meat and some organic protein powder delivered to you it an’t bad to have.
trip.com/ Agoda / booking.com: Different apps are pretty much better for different areas for example Dali the best value hotels are found on trip.com rather than agoda - Agoda usually can have the better last minute deals sometimes though - its best evaluating each independent city on the three different apps first before making a booking. Not all hotels are listed on these three major apps- some have exclusivity deals with a specific website.
WeChat : Pretty much essential as not all Chinese women have instagram or Facebook . Make sure you download this and use the social media guide here: https://mindful-masculinity.org/202...ial-media-guide-for-dating-and-relationships/ even if youre not planning on gaming in China it's still a good app to use if you plan on approaching Asian women in general as the majority of Chinese, Hong Kongers, Taiwanese , Malays do utilise the app. Make sure you have good quality photos on there to reduce your likelihood of flakes.
