UPDATE
I basically sent her an email back calling her out on a few things, (thanks to Sir_Chancealot for the inspiration on that one), and of course she REPLIED BACK:
So, I was very entertained. That is hilarious! I have paid more for
concerts I have enjoyed less
You have a temper, I see. So, here's food for thought. Gold digger, huh? How do you know I'm not independently wealthy and tired of gold diggers myself?
Well in the South, there are certain social rules. I was just giving you the heads up on what goes on around here as far a dating
goes. You obviously don't have a sister, because guys with a sister can take a straight conversation from a women with out making them insecure. Didn't mean for you to go there. So don't let it ruin your other
prospects.
This has been great. It's my first on online argument. Very interesting. Remember...It's not about gold digging here. It's a way a lot of guys are raised to show they respect women down here. It's just a huge a social/ culture thing. I never bothered with it before,
but guys who can't recognize the standard and it's importance have a difficult time with opinionated women I've found. It's a rule on women down here. If you're good looking, well off, and educated, you've got
opinions. Look, don't take it personally, like I said I REALLY liked everything about you, but you have to relize...
Sometimes unemployment *(she is unemployed) is really a great disguise. It's not about the money for me. It's about one standard that is uniquely southern. It's a social way of weeding out gold-digging guys. Men that aren't insulted by it, usually don't care what a person has or doesn't have. To be straight I'm in no way a gold digger, if I was you would never have met me, I have a billionaire friend I could have married years ago.
You haven't been victimized. So cheer up. To be Zen, it's like you have this great laundry and you accidently got a red sock lost in it So now everything is this weird shade of pink. I don't have any bleach I can give you, but I can tell you, you need bleach, and to not be upset. Everything's fixable, but you need to be the one to go get it, because it's your laundry.
Translation: If I am the one to tell you about southern dating, you kill me - the messenger, but after you think about it, when the next chick comes along you'll be like "OH, I know what this is! It's that southern dating thing". It's a way of letting chicks know down here you aren't
just in it for sex. Unless you are just in it for sex and I've been wrong. IGNORE ALL IF THAT'S THE CASE
By the way, I have encountered many gold diggers myself, so it was refreshing to know you had your own life. Too bad we couldn't compromise on how to actually date. It's
really funny if you think about it. Think about it from the humor aspect. This was not as you have percieved it. Next time, take the time to debate an issue before you jump to conclusions. Life is much happier when you debate things. It's interesting and clearer. Hope I cleared things
up for you, and you feel better...Thanks for the laugh, you're pretty fiesty, but I hope
you're really not as mean as you sounded. See ya'
AND HERE IS MY REPLY TO THAT LOAD OF SEWAGE:
Heh heh trust me on this one -- you are not the sole inspiration of my email. But I'm flattered that you chose to take time out of your day to check it out. As of late, I have been dating/meeting quite a few people and decided to clarify a few things up... Now, if you remembered anything I may have told you, you should know that I have lived in the south all my life. My parents are the original 'Yankees', as they are sometimes called by southern folk. As far as the whole 'southern by-laws and standards of confederate courtship' thing goes, I had no idea that anyone in this day and age still held such beliefs. I guess I had wrongly assumed that someone of your character, intelligence and wit thought about these things.
I did have a good time going out with you. It seems like you had a good time with me as well, which makes me annoyed at that first lenghty message you sent me when you got back. The fact that you brought up the subject of money in the first place made it seem like your main problem is that I made you spend your own money or I didn't spend enough money on you. You expected me to pay for everything, despite the fact that I don't know you very well. I don't feel comfortable doing that for someone for a number of reasons, one of them being that I give gifts and favors graciously, without hesitation, to people who are CLOSE to me. They have proven themselves deserving of my companionship. I haven't known you quite long enough for me to feel that way about you. To expand further on that (even though you say you are not a gold-digger), I don't believe in buying a person's affection. I certainly thought you were a charming, sophisticated woman, but I thought you were more sophisticated than this. Apparently, I was wrong. If I'm required to buy your affection and your time with gifts, dinners, and flowers -- I'd rather not have it.
I also find it pretty annoying that you chose to bring up those issues via an impersonal email and didn't have the courage to make a phone call or tell me your problems face-to-face. And to be honest, I didn't feel any real chemistry here as well. Don't get me wrong, we got along pretty well and most guys would consider you attractive. I initially didn't think that we would have good chemistry, but I thought that you might have a good personality.
One more thing, I'll try to end this quickly because I'm running late...I am not angry or pissed at you or anyone else, far from it. Too many things can be read into writings, emails, non verbal communiques etc. or they are misconstrued or misinterpreted. If you think that there is this dark cloud planted over my head, shooting out thunderbolts and lightning because of recent events, you couldn't be more wrong. Trust me, if I let these kind of things affect me that way, there wouldn't be much left of me but a corpse slowly going cold on the side of the road. I just felt like saying all of this to clue you in about where I'm coming from.
So you have yourself a good day, if you would like to have a conversation or hang out sometime, I'm all for it. I don't hold grudges, well mostly. Buh-bye.
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END OF STORY, she is out, curbed, next'd, email blocked. Just thought you guys might be interested in the closure part.
over and out.
[This message has been edited by 86 (edited 06-19-2002).]
[This message has been edited by 86 (edited 06-19-2002).]
I basically sent her an email back calling her out on a few things, (thanks to Sir_Chancealot for the inspiration on that one), and of course she REPLIED BACK:
So, I was very entertained. That is hilarious! I have paid more for
concerts I have enjoyed less
You have a temper, I see. So, here's food for thought. Gold digger, huh? How do you know I'm not independently wealthy and tired of gold diggers myself?Well in the South, there are certain social rules. I was just giving you the heads up on what goes on around here as far a dating
goes. You obviously don't have a sister
, because guys with a sister can take a straight conversation from a women with out making them insecure. Didn't mean for you to go there. So don't let it ruin your other prospects.
This has been great. It's my first on online argument. Very interesting. Remember...It's not about gold digging here. It's a way a lot of guys are raised to show they respect women down here. It's just a huge a social/ culture thing. I never bothered with it before,
but guys who can't recognize the standard and it's importance have a difficult time with opinionated women I've found. It's a rule on women down here. If you're good looking, well off, and educated, you've got
opinions. Look, don't take it personally, like I said I REALLY liked everything about you, but you have to relize...
Sometimes unemployment *(she is unemployed) is really a great disguise. It's not about the money for me. It's about one standard that is uniquely southern. It's a social way of weeding out gold-digging guys. Men that aren't insulted by it, usually don't care what a person has or doesn't have. To be straight I'm in no way a gold digger, if I was you would never have met me, I have a billionaire friend I could have married years ago.
You haven't been victimized. So cheer up. To be Zen, it's like you have this great laundry and you accidently got a red sock lost in it
So now everything is this weird shade of pink. I don't have any bleach I can give you, but I can tell you, you need bleach, and to not be upset. Everything's fixable, but you need to be the one to go get it, because it's your laundry. Translation: If I am the one to tell you about southern dating, you kill me - the messenger, but after you think about it, when the next chick comes along you'll be like "OH, I know what this is! It's that southern dating thing". It's a way of letting chicks know down here you aren't
just in it for sex. Unless you are just in it for sex and I've been wrong. IGNORE ALL IF THAT'S THE CASE
By the way, I have encountered many gold diggers myself, so it was refreshing to know you had your own life. Too bad we couldn't compromise on how to actually date. It's
really funny if you think about it. Think about it from the humor aspect. This was not as you have percieved it. Next time, take the time to debate an issue before you jump to conclusions. Life is much happier when you debate things. It's interesting and clearer. Hope I cleared things
up for you, and you feel better...Thanks for the laugh, you're pretty fiesty, but I hope
you're really not as mean as you sounded. See ya'
AND HERE IS MY REPLY TO THAT LOAD OF SEWAGE:
Heh heh trust me on this one -- you are not the sole inspiration of my email. But I'm flattered that you chose to take time out of your day to check it out. As of late, I have been dating/meeting quite a few people and decided to clarify a few things up... Now, if you remembered anything I may have told you, you should know that I have lived in the south all my life. My parents are the original 'Yankees', as they are sometimes called by southern folk. As far as the whole 'southern by-laws and standards of confederate courtship' thing goes, I had no idea that anyone in this day and age still held such beliefs. I guess I had wrongly assumed that someone of your character, intelligence and wit thought about these things.I did have a good time going out with you. It seems like you had a good time with me as well, which makes me annoyed at that first lenghty message you sent me when you got back. The fact that you brought up the subject of money in the first place made it seem like your main problem is that I made you spend your own money or I didn't spend enough money on you. You expected me to pay for everything, despite the fact that I don't know you very well. I don't feel comfortable doing that for someone for a number of reasons, one of them being that I give gifts and favors graciously, without hesitation, to people who are CLOSE to me. They have proven themselves deserving of my companionship. I haven't known you quite long enough for me to feel that way about you. To expand further on that (even though you say you are not a gold-digger), I don't believe in buying a person's affection. I certainly thought you were a charming, sophisticated woman, but I thought you were more sophisticated than this. Apparently, I was wrong. If I'm required to buy your affection and your time with gifts, dinners, and flowers -- I'd rather not have it.
I also find it pretty annoying that you chose to bring up those issues via an impersonal email and didn't have the courage to make a phone call or tell me your problems face-to-face. And to be honest, I didn't feel any real chemistry here as well. Don't get me wrong, we got along pretty well and most guys would consider you attractive. I initially didn't think that we would have good chemistry, but I thought that you might have a good personality.
One more thing, I'll try to end this quickly because I'm running late...I am not angry or pissed at you or anyone else, far from it. Too many things can be read into writings, emails, non verbal communiques etc. or they are misconstrued or misinterpreted. If you think that there is this dark cloud planted over my head, shooting out thunderbolts and lightning because of recent events, you couldn't be more wrong. Trust me, if I let these kind of things affect me that way, there wouldn't be much left of me but a corpse slowly going cold on the side of the road. I just felt like saying all of this to clue you in about where I'm coming from.
So you have yourself a good day, if you would like to have a conversation or hang out sometime, I'm all for it. I don't hold grudges, well mostly.
Buh-bye.------
END OF STORY, she is out, curbed, next'd, email blocked. Just thought you guys might be interested in the closure part.
over and out.
[This message has been edited by 86 (edited 06-19-2002).]
[This message has been edited by 86 (edited 06-19-2002).]
