Read this on 4chan, thought i'd share...

[SgtSplacker]

Someone asked the board what women want in a man, this reply stood out.


"Women are not actually attracted to men. There is a vague idea of what a man is physically, and some are better than others aesthetically speaking, but the purely physical appearance of a man is almost inconsequential unless he is horribly ugly or outrageously attractive.

Women are attracted to status, money, how much a man smiles and laughs, how many friends and resources a man has, how full a man's life is--how many "cool," "exciting" and prestigious things he is doing or connected to.

They are interested in how other people view him--how many people want to be around him, how other people interact with him and whether their interactions convey that he is special and amazing. They want him to be extremely outgoing and aggressive; they want him to demonstrate his status over other people by dominating them in various non-violent ways.

A woman's attraction to a man is a function of her jealousy at the thought of another woman having that man. She doesn't care who he actually is or EXACTLY what he looks like physically, she only cares about the VALUE of the life he has constructed around himself.

A woman basically is a greedy materialistic prostitute. Although that sounds vulgar, it's true. She trades her physical self to buy into the success a man has created for himself."

 

[49au]

Agree with this, but don't see why it should really bother men.

After all, I don't give a sh!t about a woman's career, education, life experience, social dominance, etc. I don't really care about much of anything, except how hot she is. Obviously if she has a poor attitude she's only good for sex, and if she has a good attitude then she's potential for LTR.

But looks are the underlying factor.

We really have the advantage here because a man can do MUCH more to make himself attractive to women, than women can do to make themselves more attractive to men.

 

[SgtSplacker]

What men admire in women is totally not related in the least to what women admire in men. I mean WTF all I look for is a nice set of cans and a personality I can just deal with. Women (at least I feel) look for these things in the original post...

 

[SamTheHobit]

Translation : Unrealistic expectations.

 

[Zarky]

Again, I'm not really sure how it's helpful to lump all women into one category and assume that they all want the same thing.

As I've said repeatedly here, that's like when women say, "Men love the chase." That's true for some men, untrue for others (such as myself.)

The trick is finding out what makes each individual woman you encounter want to hop on your c*ck. Yes there are broad-brush tactics you can use to try to garner the initial attention of the majority of women, but to assume that "all women" want those things is silly and will lead to mediocrity.

Once you've broad-brushed your persona, then you have to tailor your interactions individually when you meet each woman.

The lowest guys don't understand broad-brush tactics and have no success. The wannabes use broad-brush tactics exclusively and have limited success (these are also called douchebags -- the guys at the club who all look alike). Then there are the true players who understand broad-brush tactics but also apply individualized tactics per woman. They have the most success. The top players can immediately feel out a woman or even a small group of women and present what is necessary to get those women turned on, even if it goes against all advice that would seem logical in that situation.

You've got to move past the platitudes to really achieve greatness.

 

[plate's_empty]

Someone asked the board what women want in a man, this reply stood out.


"Women are not actually attracted to men. There is a vague idea of what a man is physically, and some are better than others aesthetically speaking, but the purely physical appearance of a man is almost inconsequential unless he is horribly ugly or outrageously attractive.

Women are attracted to status, money, how much a man smiles and laughs, how many friends and resources a man has, how full a man's life is--how many "cool," "exciting" and prestigious things he is doing or connected to.

They are interested in how other people view him--how many people want to be around him, how other people interact with him and whether their interactions convey that he is special and amazing. They want him to be extremely outgoing and aggressive; they want him to demonstrate his status over other people by dominating them in various non-violent ways.

A woman's attraction to a man is a function of her jealousy at the thought of another woman having that man. She doesn't care who he actually is or EXACTLY what he looks like physically, she only cares about the VALUE of the life he has constructed around himself.

A woman basically is a greedy materialistic prostitute. Although that sounds vulgar, it's true. She trades her physical self to buy into the success a man has created for himself."

Did this win a Pulitzer? If not, they were robbed.


Game is pretty much conveying, subliminally stating, you are this person.

 

[floydb25]

Sadly, at least IME, this is all true. As always, it depends on the kind of women, and from which environments and circles she's from. Since most societies in the US are ****, it's quite a lot of them. It was damn near all of them in the area I used to reside in. Those heavy into the social scene are definitely like this. Unfortunately, that includes all of the "hot" girls... most of which are fake and shallow to begin with.

You just gotta accept it and adapt, or be left behind. Not many people care how nice or caring you are - only how cool, respected, and in-demand you are. Even your natural looks won't mean much without the flashy, out-going, confident personality and appearance.

The only thing good looks really determine is if they will have sex with you. That does NOT mean they want to be seen with you, or get fully involved. Most will even lie about their interest to save face in public - if you aren't valued and respected, or assertive and confident. They could be crazy about you, head over heels, wanting sex, etc - but they'll still tell everyone you're just friends and keep your relationship as private as possible... literally as they're flirting with you in front of them (which they lie about).

Most also don't want someone who doesn't have other girls available right now. They aren't interested in potential, or girls looking at you, or you having legitimate excuses, or whatever. They want you to be actively engaging, courting, or already dating them. Rejecting or socializing with them doesn't demonstrate your value - only having them does. They only assume, as a good looking guy, that you have options already.

And they pay attention to all of this ****... how people are treating you, if they're looking up to you, if you're confident and out-going, if you have girls hanging around you, if you're active in the dating scene; pursuing, being pursued, getting laid, and having girlfriends. It doesn't matter much what you have going for you in private - only what you can prove in public. That's what everyone judges you by... men, as well.

 

[( . )( . )]

You've got to move past the platitudes to really achieve greatness.

You've got to move off your friends couch to really achieve greatness.

The trick is finding out what makes each individual woman you encounter want to hop on your c*ck.

Yeah, that be GAME. Lets not confuse the newbies into thinking chicks are all unique snowflakes (although try as you might). If that were true we wouldn't have the 90/10 rule. Besides , I'm sure it doesn't take a genius to figure out over the top club game may not really be all that appropriate to gaming a blossoming bookworm walking the family dog. However game is game is game. It's called common sense.


As for the OP, that's not a bad post. It's refreshing to see some red pill knowledge at 4chan with the amount of readers it has is always good. Although their base readership is predominantly males so it's not surprising the odd nugget will pop up.

 

[mv.89]

I forgot who said this but isn't it true

Women want : looks, status, money

Women need: security, dominance, reliability

Also I must have missed something but what is this 90/10 rule again ?

 

[( . )( . )]

Also I must have missed something but what is this 90/10 rule again ?

It's Pareto's principle adapted for male/female dynamics. It used to be known as the 80/20 rule within the community, 20 percent of men have sexual access to 80 percent of women. However unrestrained hypergamy now in full effect that's probably a stretch. I personally believe it's closer to 90/10.

 

[Mr_Stinky]

Some gospel truths in this thread

 

[DragonBlood]

rep+1

thanks really good post, strong reminder to what the objective of game actually is.
To improve as a person. The rest sorts itself out.

 

[SirFratserlot]

How am I suppose to improve myself when im in college

 

[SamTheHobit]

It's Pareto's principle adapted for male/female dynamics. It used to be known as the 80/20 rule within the community, 20 percent of men have sexual access to 80 percent of women. However unrestrained hypergamy now in full effect that's probably a stretch. I personally believe it's closer to 90/10.

I wonder if that number rose because women are becoming more slutty.

 

[plate's_empty]

I wonder if that number rose because women are becoming more slutty.

10% of the guys are fvcking 90% of the women.

Women are becoming more selective.

Because of all the dating sites and easy access to men. The reason that women are becoming more selective is they can be.

 

[Zarky]

It's Pareto's principle adapted for male/female dynamics. It used to be known as the 80/20 rule within the community, 20 percent of men have sexual access to 80 percent of women. However unrestrained hypergamy now in full effect that's probably a stretch. I personally believe it's closer to 90/10.

That's just ridiculous. If anyone can point to any numbers backing this up, please do. 10% of men are banging 90% of women? Forget it. Social chaos would ensue. That's some manosphere fantasy.

Western culture is still largely based on monogamy. A small percentage of the population is gay, and another small percentage is celibate (by choice or not). Most adult men in the western world are having sex. Usually with one woman who is a girlfriend or wife.

The only people who can't get laid are the posters on this forum and ones like it. Even my best guy friend who is essentially homeless (moves from hostel to hostel), is ugly as sin, has teeth that are literally rotting out of his head, a scraggly beard and who almost never showers.. got laid last week.

 

[bukowski_merit]

"Women are not actually attracted to men. There is a vague idea of what a man is physically, and some are better than others aesthetically speaking, but the purely physical appearance of a man is almost inconsequential unless he is horribly ugly or outrageously attractive.

There's ample data out there that show women are attracted to men's physical apperance (and what they're attracted to changes with their menstral cycles). However, I will tend to agree that it's not that significant unless you're on one end of the spectrum... I wouldn't say "horribly ugly" though... Just "ugly" will be good enough (any guy in the 1-4 range is SOL). I guess if we're going to use scales... I'd say MOST men fall into the 5-7 range... And there's minimal advantage to being a 7 vs. 5.

"Women are attracted to status, money, how much a man smiles and laughs, how many friends and resources a man has, how full a man's life is--how many "cool," "exciting" and prestigious things he is doing or connected to.

As a blanket statement: I don't agree with any of this...

There's certainly women out there this applies to, but it's not as simple as it is listed.

"They are interested in how other people view him--how many people want to be around him, how other people interact with him and whether their interactions convey that he is special and amazing. They want him to be extremely outgoing and aggressive; they want him to demonstrate his status over other people by dominating them in various non-violent ways.

This is one way to attract a woman. And a guy like this will have it easier than I (as will a guy who's 8-10 in looks).

But I'm not extremely outgoing or aggresive (other than sexually, but i don't think that's what this person is talking about). And I've fvcked a lot more women than most.... Including wives of guys like the guy the author is talking about above....

I don't like most people (especially men). So... They end up not liking me. But women like me, because im fun. And most women's perception of me is that of a ladies man (which is correct). And this perception comes as a result of the fun they have with me....

That's all the status I need.

"A woman's attraction to a man is a function of her jealousy at the thought of another woman having that man.

This, I agree with 100%....

"She doesn't care who he actually is or EXACTLY what he looks like physically, she only cares about the VALUE of the life he has constructed around himself.

If you own who you are. If you own the domain you have built around yourself. If you are what you are, and do not apologize for it.

The problem is that most guys who are lesser than... Are none of the above.

So, what you're testing against... Is a lot of guys comfortable with who they are (the guys with "status") vs. guys who are not.

Guys with "status" will normally be better looking guys, with more money, and successful lives... What this naturally does is produce guys who are confident in themselves in their lifestyles.

Most guys without status... ARE NOT confident...

So what I'm saying is that if a guy without status, can carry the same precense as a guy with status.... That's often good enough...

"A woman basically is a greedy materialistic prostitute. Although that sounds vulgar, it's true. She trades her physical self to buy into the success a man has created for himself."

Women are pretty much hoes or prostitutes.... I think Johnny Soprono said that years ago...

Either #1 bargaining their bodies for self-gratification... Or #2 bargaining their bodies for material/security gain... Or #3 bargaining their bodies to keep a man in their lives...

BUT.... these 3 things are often factored into each individual relationship based on many variables. #3 will be present in almost every transaction.

Meaning: If guy fvcks a woman who loves sex really good - Both #1 and #3 apply. If he has a minimal amount of material wealth or security to offer - that probably won't matter to most women.

And you can flip that.

If a man has tons of material wealth, and can offer a woman security for the rest of her life - she can over look #1 if he's bad at giving her gratification (if she even cares about it.)...

#3 is perhaps the hardest to do on it's own. I think this is mostly where game and self-confidence come into play. Even if you're bad in bed, even if you had no success - there's stuff that can keep a woman coming back... Many of it taught here....


Just my take on it all...

 

[twentee]

most of these guys will NEVER HAVE ANY alpha years, dude.

 

[plate's_empty]

That's just ridiculous. If anyone can point to any numbers backing this up, please do. 10% of men are banging 90% of women?

Go find out from 9 random guys how many women they've had sex with. Then ask me.