Re-respecting women

[TonyTenner]

Hi
Only got red-pilled a couple of months ago having run into trouble with a woman. I knew nothing about Game or the Red pill up until that point. I've always loved women and have had no problem getting with them. At 37, my notch count is about 80 but I've generally had problems keeping the good ones. I now know why.

Having read Rollo Tomassi, watched his podcasts, listened to Patrice O'Neal, and generally gone down the typical RP road over the last 2 months, I've found myself having less and less respect for women. Even ones I thought were fascinating and alluring I know see as empty vessels simply acting out the only thing they're better than men at: hypergamy.

I'm still dating the woman who I got red-pilled over and EVERY single typical behaviour described in the red-pill community I now notice in her. It's truly extraordinary to me how homogenous women's nature is. It's like they're all cut from the very same cloth. I can barely think of one woman I've met who did not display typical female-nature behaviours (attention seeking, status seeking etc). Except for my Mum.

I'll probably dump my gf. Before being RP'ed I wouldn't even dream of it and would have hung on for dear life. But through an RP lens, I now see some of her behaviour is unacceptable. And i'll barely be sad about it. Don't get me wrong though - the benefits of being RP'ed far outweigh the cons (I'm fully focused for the first time ever on my and my career).

I want this to be a positive thread on how one can regain one's respect for women whilst constantly recognising their often ugly natures.

This topic may well have been done to death, apologies of so. Anyway, Im all ears.

 

[deadmasterx]

I think that despite of what most men thinks, we also have a lot of common behaviours that for women it seems as clear as water too. We also do follow a pattern that most of them can identify. The main problem is that we judge their actions in a male perspective. Let's just remember that women are emotion oriented beings, which means that anything that can drive her through a emotion rollercoaster is perfect, is good. They love it as much as we love a good obedient woman who respect us and give us some hot wild sex in the night. That's their "price" for getting you the things you want to take from them. It's their own nature, as much as our male nature is about competition, territorialism, stare to a fine ass without even realising you're doing it, because it's part of you, part of your nature.
If you take a good look on women's behaviour, you'll notice what to do and what to not do. How can you be a better man, not only in your love life but also business life. To get a woman you must be even slightly smart, good looking, good orator, convincing and confident. These are traits that will help you with pretty much any other aspects of your life. They teach us these things, the failure may hurt us a lot, but the reward is sweet.
So, don't hate them. Be grateful for their texting, their drama, their flaking. You can learn from all of these. Whenever a girl gives me a "You said it to all the girls, don't you?" it makes my day. Another good opportunity to show her that I'm ready for her tests.

 

[cola]

Remember men do a lot of toxic things too. Too many of us take the red pill and get on our high horse and act like we are pure benevolence and women are pure malevolence.

How many of us have strung women along that we will be with them and then pump and dumped? I know I have.

How many of us have showered a girl with attention until she got attatched, met a girl you liked a little more and then just went completely ghost? I know I have.

Just remember we do **** too, it’s bad men out there and bad women ..

 

[derby1]

I see what OP means, since going red pill, i can literally predict the quotes and sentences that will come out their mouth, its nauseating.

Professional victims all with the same stories

to me now this is comedy value

5 years ago i would have got my sword and shield at the ready , hanging off her every word

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Respect who we should ( good women ) see the rest as they are.

 

[Black Widow Void]

The situation that you are describing is a natural and a normal occurrence.
Becoming 'aware' can lead to having self-contempt for our own past naive behavior as well as current contempt for the actions of women.

Here are a few considerations that will make the transition easier.
A lot of female demonstrated behavior is subconscious. In other words, it's part of their biology.
Another part is the fault of men. Yes, I said "men." Think back to when you (actually any of us for that matter) were too accommodating to women. We set a 'tone' of acceptability for their bad behavior. In other words, we gave them a "green light" that their behavior was okay.

And although many of us here are more 'awakened'... there's countless men out there that continue to make unacceptable concessions for women. In other words, these 'un-awakened' men are continuing to perpetuate the problem.

Imagine a woman that has been 'conditioned' (by men) into behaving a certain way and always getting away with it. They are not acting "entitled". Instead, they are behaving in a way that 'non-aware' men have conditioned them. It becomes second nature to these women.

And now.. we come along and put our foot down. Our behavior isn't as common to them. In fact, I would imagine that it can be uncomfortable. Naturally, many of these women may offer some resistance. While it's true that women may respect us for being more of man, we also have to be subtle and gradual as well.

In other words... getting new knowledge and then behaving like a "bull in a china shop" will not get us very far.

 

[Gorgiass]

I don't know how this girl is and what your options are, but it's worth using what you know and changing her into what you want. Even attempting to for practice. Easier when she's younger and you haven't established bad precedents of course. People in general, and women especially, are moldable by higher status individuals. Just lay out your expectations and carrot and stick until she meets them. If she doesn't, then ditch her.

People are ugly-natured. Thinking too much about it will depress almost anyone, so I try not to anymore.

 

[andreihaha]

The hate men feel against women is a projection of the hate they feel for themselves.
You don't hate women, you hate how you let them control you, how they perceive you, how you let them hurt you.

Once you start respecting yourself, women will start to see you in a different way.

I love women.

 

[Atom Smasher]

There are about 2% of women out there that are worthy of respect. Even they will exhibit some of the traits that frustrate us in occasion, but it’s at a reasonable level.

I say, go for the 2%. Be a 2 percenter, and they will notice you.

 

[TonyTenner]

I see what OP means, since going red pill, i can literally predict the quotes and sentences that will come out their mouth, its nauseating.

Professional victims all with the same stories

to me now this is comedy value

5 years ago i would have got my sword and shield at the ready , hanging off her every word

Yeah, it's truly extraordinary how accurately the Red Pill predicts female behaviour. The mysticism is gone, and with it Romance is dead (and never existed). I now know what they are going to say - and then how they are going to act (usually contrary to what they've just said) - based on the cues I give them.

 

[TonyTenner]

When your expectations are realistic then it is not too difficult to actually respect the good women a lot more than you would have before.

I see where you're coming from. It's like as RT says "I don't tell you this so you'll hate women, I tell you this so you won't hate women".

 

[TonyTenner]

Nothing says anyone including wlmen get respect. You don't have to but by all means respect the Law.
I would say bro if you thoroughly read the RM and still trying to "respect"
I would have to say you need to do more accepting how things are. Acceptance...

Ya I'm new to all this. Acceptance will come. I'm still in the mourning stage.

 

[TonyTenner]

I don't know how this girl is and what your options are, but it's worth using what you know and changing her into what you want. Even attempting to for practice. Easier when she's younger and you haven't established bad precedents of course. People in general, and women especially, are moldable by higher status individuals. Just lay out your expectations and carrot and stick until she meets them. If she doesn't, then ditch her.

People are ugly-natured. Thinking too much about it will depress almost anyone, so I try not to anymore.

Yes that's precisely what I'm doing. I've told her what I find unacceptable and it's remarkable how her behaviour changes and she's being good again. Then I slip back into being a bit too nice and it's remarkable how her behaviour changes and she's being bad again. The penny dropped yesterday: when in doubt, default to being a bit of a ****. They can't help but like it.

 

[TonyTenner]

People in general are drama filled egomaniacs. Even your own family. The older you get the less tolerant you will be for people in general, not just women. Eventually romance becomes petty.

Im not saying become a monk. But the red pill has sent many guys into MTGTOW.

Those guys grew up with Disney delusions. They grew up in the matrix. So when they hear about women’s nature for the first time, it’s a shock to their systems.

The older you get the more you’ll realize a lot of people are ridiculous and wonder how we are all still functioning as a society/civilization.

When I was in the military, I met the most soulless people that would barely qualify as human. And sometimes it makes me wonder whats keeping it all together? Lol.

Society feels like a house of cards. All it takes is a little push and everyone eats each other.

My red pill was when I took up zen and discovered that hell was people.

Ever since then I’ve always been on my purpose. Because I know if I let myself go, it will lower my vibration to the level of zombified people.

When you are on your purpose, you will be elevated. You’ll be able to look at people from a higher perspective. In a way this is almost like a self protection.

When you become aimless, you attract all the zombies. This goes for men and women. You’ll just find yourself in one drama after another, or one bad relationship after another.

Create a purposeful routine based on your life goals and stick to it. You’ll run into other people on your level. You won’t have to worry about the zombies.

Nicely said. Yeah the RP has given me more motivation and more focus on my career than ever before. Women had been forever getting in the way of my goals while blue pill.

 

[TonyTenner]

The hate men feel against women is a projection of the hate they feel for themselves.
You don't hate women, you hate how you let them control you, how they perceive you, how you let them hurt you.

Once you start respecting yourself, women will start to see you in a different way.

I love women.

I still love women but I feel the mysticism, the unpredictability, and to an extent, the Romance, are all dead.

 

[TonyTenner]

There are about 2% of women out there that are worthy of respect. Even they will exhibit some of the traits that frustrate us in occasion, but it’s at a reasonable level.

I say, go for the 2%. Be a 2 percenter, and they will notice you.

How do you know a 2 percenter? Big question, I know.

 

[derby1]

The hate men feel against women is a projection of the hate they feel for themselves.

not true friend, I paid 15 thousand UK pounds tax last year , all of which went to 99% of local women who parasite off a welfare system for their crotch spawns, most of which are on their 2nd baby daddy. They have no shame or no remorse for what men do one bit

Also when caroline flack killed herself the sisterhood mourned like a princess had died........"Fix your crown ladies"

Caroline flack was a male abuser

 

[Kotaix]

The red pill journey is a long one. Red pill rage is a very common thing and you're only in the initial stages of it. It took me a few years to get over what you're describing, but I did.

Eventually you'll learn that there is no point whatsoever in sputtering and/or complaining to people about female nature. In my experience, if you talk about it then the following points are true:

• Those who are blue pill will hate you for being a misoginyst or call you crazy. You will lose these friends if you talk about it.
• Those who are black pill will stoke your hatred and try to drag you into their own personal hell. Stay away from these people
• Those who are red pill will tell you: Duh.
• No one cares.

You can't hate women for their nature, you can only accept that this is their nature. Otherwise you might as well hate water for being wet.

You can't control women and you can't make them behave in a way you want, if you try to then you'll fail and you'll end up hating women even more. So long as you don't see them as the end-all be-all of life then you'll have the clarity to see thru the bullsh!t of low value women.

As far as I'm concerned, the red pill should be regarded as a spiritual journey. Stop believing the lies of society and make up your own damn mind.

 

[andreihaha]

not true friend, I paid 15 thousand UK pounds tax last year , all of which went to 99% of local women who parasite off a welfare system for their crotch spawns, most of which are on their 2nd baby daddy. They have no shame or no remorse for what men do one bit

Also when caroline flack killed herself the sisterhood mourned like a princess had died........"Fix your crown ladies"

Caroline flack was a male abuser

I just said that the hate men feel against women is a projection of the hate they feel for themselves.
So I guess you're divorced. Then you're a living example of what I just said. Maybe she has no remorse or shame, but why marry that kind of woman?
It's so much easier to blame others than to recognise your own mistakes. But that's not gonna improve your life.

 

[derby1]

I just said that the hate men feel against women is a projection of the hate they feel for themselves.
So I guess you're divorced. Then you're a living example of what I just said. Maybe she has no remorse or shame, but why marry that kind of woman?

you are making a lot of false assumptions, i have never been married.

what part of my point dont you get? the whole of the sisterhood mourned for a male abuser, its like us all crying and sharing memes if chris brown pops his clogged.

they also parasite with no shame or remorse off a welfare system i pay heavily into,

I dont hate women, but i dont like them either.

their behaviour is insufferable