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Okay so you haven't read The Red Pill, and now you have ambiguous disagreements about an author that is not singularly responsible for the red pill.

It took you 3 tries to indirectly say that? Goddamn dude. I'm done trying with you.
The Red Pill isn't the subject of this thread. The Rational Male is what's being discussed
 

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You'll never get anywhere with women if you cannot tease back. Give him his bromance.
He's not really interested in whether or not I've read The Scriptures which he considers The Infallible Word Of God. Like all True Believers, he's triggered by anyone who recognizes such things as the works of flawed, fallible humans, rather than creations of The Divine
 
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He's not really interested in whether or not I've read The Scriptures which he considers The Infallible Word Of God. Like all True Believers, he's triggered by anyone who recognizes such things as the works of flawed, fallible humans, rather creations of The Divine
Quite the projection.
 

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What do you think of Rollo Tomassi's book "The Rational Male - The Player's Handbook"? Is it a good choice for a beginner in the game?
I recommend no.

You'll risk forever going down the rabbit hole of social media red pill nonsense.

All you need are some basic ideas and then get out in the field and get experience.

Experience is your best teacher.

Have a solid set of criteria, qualify hard and don't be afraid to walk away.
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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...I would have never imagine that the red pill and certain individual connected to this field would get so much attention and influence online.
Back in '99, NO ONE imagined that a popcorn movie which stole all it's key components from prior works(Neuromancer, Dune, Dragon Ball Z, etc)would become the basis for a religion, by the end of The 2000s
 

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Just bc he's married doesn't mean he doesn't engage/socialize with women. He worked in the alc industry where he had to deal with a lot of (drunk) women. Now that he's being friends with Michael Sartain he also interacts with a lot of models at his bikini competition or whatever. Also the fact that women like Jedediah Biela or Torshaa are quite fond of him, should be proof that he knows how to 'handle' women and can productive advice.
That's only slightly less absurd than mistaking a 'roided out, less-than-mediocre comedian who's found fame as a bizarrely overrated podcaster for a self-defense guru, just because he took a few Tae Kwon Do lessons in high school + Hangs around lots of UFC fighters



"According to him his bedroom is still 'alive' to this day"

Insert your own L. Ron Hubbard comparison


Here
 

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No, I wouldn’t recommend it. I think the philosophy and theories should be reserved for discussing relationships and marriages. You don’t need a book to tell you how to get laid, it’s pretty easy at the end of the day.

side note, I saw a guy reading it at my coffee shop and he looked liked he needed to prioritize on hygiene and proper dressing etiquette over game.
 

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side note, I saw a guy reading it at my coffee shop and he looked liked he needed to prioritize on hygiene and proper dressing etiquette over game.
I've noticed similar among fellas who consider themselves Red Pill. They're really quite similar to that portion of the gay population derided by gays who present as "regular people", such as




The Woke Homosexual looks like a deviant in public, so as to signify his or her "rejection The CIS Heteronormative Power Structure". While The Red Pill man-baby goes out of his way to let all the rest of us plebs he's been cursed to share the planet with know just how far outside of "Blue Pill, Normie society" he is

Neither The Woke Gay nor The Generically Red Pill Guy find it ironic or hypocritical that they're enjoying to the hilt the perks of this deeply flawed, yet nonetheless magnificent civilization which supposedly exists just to oppress and persecute them
 
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The Woke Homosexual looks like a deviant in public, so as to signify his or her "rejection The CIS Heteronormative Power Structure". While The Red Pill man-baby goes out of his way to let all the rest of us plebs he's been cursed to share the planet with know just how far outside of "Blue Pill, Normie society" he is

Neither The Woke Gay nor The Generically Red Pill Guy find it ironic or hypocritical that they're enjoying to the hilt the perks of this deeply flawed, yet nonetheless magnificent civilization which supposedly exists just to oppress and persecute them
The Red Pill male is just a sibling of the radical woke left and crazy feminist they complain about. It starts with your atypical struggling male that is frustrated with Stacy and Chad and instead of becoming Chad or a fvck boy(the male version of Stacy), they become this stagnant inactive theorist that just wants to idolize other males and complain all day.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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The most common critique of Tomassi is the long marriage. While it's good for him that he's been married nearly 28 years, it does limit his direct experience.
On the other hand, a marriage lasting 28 years these days is a heck of an accomplishment.
 

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On the other hand, a marriage lasting 28 years these days is a heck of an accomplishment.
I feel like this is a bigger accomplishment than rinse and repeating sleeping with 304s and prostitutes. I highlighted in my Red Pill topic, but a lot of it is just a marketing tactic towards vulnerable men. You can't take any of these guys seriously because they do not practice what they preach whatsoever.
 

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The Red Pill male is just a sibling of the radical woke left and crazy feminist they complain about. It starts with your atypical struggling male that is frustrated with Stacy and Chad and instead of becoming Chad or a fvck boy(the male version of Stacy), they become this stagnant inactive theorist that just wants to idolize other males and complain all day.
I suspect that becoming a True Believer in Wokeness or The Red Pill fulfills a far more fundamental need: Providing an identity and a sense of being part of something larger than oneself

The homophobia that the now Woke gay encountered prior to encountering the yammerings of Lindy West, and the difficulties The Red Pill Gent had with his junior high crush are all of less importance
 

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they become this stagnant inactive theorist that just wants to idolize other males and complain all day.
That's pretty much the main market for Red Pill content, including Rollo's books.

Dudes overanalyzing from the sideline too terrified to get in the game.

Sure there are a few red pillers who use it as a means of improvement but that's not the norm.
 

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The Victimhood is strong in them.
I agree with these folks that there's a lot of injustice, prejudice, and bias in our society. I'm also not convinced that such ills can be anything more than reduced to varying degrees
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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For injustice to exist, you have to believe in justice. I prefer to see the world unfiltered by ideals.
I'll expand upon and adapt what you once told your young kids: Justice doesn't always happen in the time frame and fashion that we'd prefer. The world is a saner, richer place when we strive for justice anyway, imperfect as it often is
 

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That's only slightly less absurd than mistaking a 'roided out, less-than-mediocre comedian who's found fame as a bizarrely overrated podcaster for a self-defense guru, just because he took a few Tae Kwon Do lessons in high school + Hangs around lots of UFC fighters



"According to him his bedroom is still 'alive' to this day"

Insert your own L. Ron Hubbard comparison


Here
Geez, did you get banged by Rollo and he never called or why that hateboner?

You provide zero arguments for your hate against Rollo. We'd show you proof and you'd still throw some BS at us. Just like a flat earther.

Seriously, prove to me that he's a fraud. I'd really like to know. But you provide nothing.
 

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Seriously, prove to me that he's a fraud. I'd really like to know. But you provide nothing.
He’s a married guy with kids preaching anti marriage rhetoric, telling guys to get a vasectomy, screaming high value/masculine man when he failed to give an example of what that is and let the emotional man children of fresh and fraud subjugate him. I had zero issues with him until he sold his soul to the fresh and fit/andrew tate crap.
 
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