Rational Women?

[patb]

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I don't get offended by stupid people/shyte and that's why I'm happier than most of you mfers.

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[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

I share my opinions on questions asked here when I choose to.
I don't care if everyone agrees with what I say.
My posting history and "likes" indicate that the vast majority of the audience here agrees with the majority of what I post as well.
I'm getting laid like tile by attractive women.
I'm not a billionaire.
I'm not Richard Gere.
I'm not 6'+.
I drive a 20 year old car.
I don't use prostitutes.
I did not import an Asian butterface or sponsor her citizenship.
I believe in science and have several degrees in science as a result.
I do not find humor in alluding to beating women.
I don't get offended by stupid people/shyte and that's why I'm happier than most of you mfers.

...and you took the vax despite all that. This is the definition of irrational.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I made thread on this subject months ago but the topic was derailed.

I believe women can think logically and suppress their emotions, but are inclined not to for a combination of evolutionary and social reasons. There is a common belief in the manosphere that irrationality is innate to women, and that holding a woman accountable for thinking logically is a cruelty. What do you think and why?

I tend to agree with this. If women weren't able to think logically and suppress their emotions, they wouldn't be able to function in the workplace. Logical thinking and self-control are required for virtually every occupation, including basic manual labor jobs. I mean, when was the last time you saw a stewardess throwing a tantrum in the middle of a flight? Or a bartender having an emotional breakdown while serving drinks? Women only act out on their emotions when they know it will be tolerated.

 

[Plinco]

@EyeBRollin @Pierce.Manhammer @MtmVaott @Money & Muscle @patb @Bokanovsky @SargeMaximus @BoomToTheMoonAlice @Ricky

I appreciate your answers so far. This thread is a brainstorming session and I like how we are drawing from our personal experiences.

Based on my experience, and with a few points of evidence, I believe that women are biologically prone to being more emotional, but are absolutely capable of thinking rationally and suppressing their emotions, but it's a matter of accountability. Same is true for men, but it's a little bit easier for us biologically, plus our cognition are almost universally held more accountable.

 

[The Duke]

As much as female emotions drive me crazy, I also appreciate the positive side of their emotions. It's what makes them different than men(besides their beauty). Probably why a lot of us are drawn to them. Polarity can be a good thing.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

They can be rational and logical but will always be subject to their own nature.

Here is a hypothetical. A woman can go to medical school and spend years studying the human organism. She can tell you logically how the reproductive system works and how, why, and when women go through their menstrual cycles and what biological factors trigger things like attraction. There are women out there who will be 1000% better informed than you on such matters and they'll write papers and win awards.

Yet when Aunt Flo is about to come to town she'll ask "why am I so hungry / tired / angry / horny?" Every single month.

Note, men are like this too in different ways by different factors.

 

[Plinco]

You are quoting a story Literally 1 theory.

It doesn't matter if there is one example, or 1000. All it takes is one exception that negates the so called principle. Ayn Rand's existence proves the statement that all women are irrational false. This shifts the discussion from Can women be rational, to what causes some people to be more rational than others.

 

[Ricky]

Part of it is training, cultural expectations and society and parr of it is physiology

as other posters said, while women are different we wouldnt want them to start acting like men necessarily either.

 

[Serenity]

think logically and suppress their emotions

This kinda presupposes that logic and emotion is conflicting, this is not always the case. Something can also be logical without being true or real. To me a rational choice isn't necessarily the purely logical or the purely emotional one, it's the one that meets both as good as possible. Rationality is something above merely just logic or emotion, it's what you get when you take ALL OF IT into account, being flexible and adapting to the rich stream of information internally and externally.

Both logic and emotion is an inherent part of the human experience, for both sexes. Rejecting one is to reject part of ones nature, that's irrationality, inflexible thinking.

 

[Plinco]

Part of it is training, cultural expectations and society and parr of it is physiology

as other posters said, while women are different we wouldnt want them to start acting like men necessarily either.

Actually it's just the opposite. If women were more rational, they wouldn't act like men because there's no reason for them to.

 

[Plinco]

This kinda presupposes that logic and emotion is conflicting, this is not always the case. Something can also be logical without being true or real. To me a rational choice isn't necessarily the purely logical or the purely emotional one, it's the one that meets both as good as possible. Rationality is something above merely just logic or emotion, it's what you get when you take ALL OF IT into account, being flexible and adapting to the rich stream of information internally and externally.

Reasoning is a process of identification of reality, regardless of who uses it. Someone can approach a question in a different way, however with proper reasoning skills and abstract concept formation, will come to the correct conclusion regardless of how their senses may differ. Emotions on the other hand are automatic response to stimuli, which are incapable of grasping reality objectively.

 

[Plinco]

So go a head. Chase the outliers. See were that gets you. You literally just told this thread that 1 exception coming in changes everything.
Talk about a recipe for an unstable man.
Its a numbers game.
You have heard this before?
This decades old advice just doesn't apply with approach.
You are missing the chess for the checkers. If you are smart enough to be aware of this.
But by all means run with your theory.
The averages do matter

What makes you think I want to chase rational women? Or chase women at all? What makes you think that's the purpose of this thread?

You CANNOT formulate a principle on averages.

 

[soulforge]

I tend to agree with this. If women weren't able to think logically and suppress their emotions, they wouldn't be able to function in the workplace. Logical thinking and self-control are required for virtually every occupation, including basic manual labor jobs. I mean, when was the last time you saw a stewardess throwing a tantrum in the middle of a flight? Or a bartender having an emotional breakdown while serving drinks? Women only act out on their emotions when they know it will be tolerated.

We hire a ton of females at my company, from young girls to older worn out heffers..

Been with the company ten years & till this day never experienced any females losing
control of their emotions.. Having a huge hissy fit, acting disrespectful towards the managers/bosses because they had a bad day.. never once have a I witnessed this.

Why? Because of consequences.. They know they can't get away with shyte Behaviour, and they absolutely will control their emotions.

I know of one older female/manager who will literally get down on her knees at each and every command given to her, by her male Operations manager.. She Is 100 loyal to this guy.

Yet she goes home and tells her husband to go get fvked on a regular basis.

 

[Plinco]

No. It depends. Racism, Discrimination of Religion and many other things, things I have witnessed from People with a wide range vocabulary that are ruled over by emotions. How does that make the opposite Gender superior to the other in terms of rational thinking? Most People are average intelligent, average People are common and average People are more likely to fall into the pitfall of being emotional.

It all depends whether the Person is confident, secure, insecure, knowledge, Personaility, Experience and many other factors.

Depends on what? Can you please elaborate

 

[Plinco]

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The purpose of this thread is to focus on epistemology, not on politics.

 

[Plinco]

Always funny, when People prove my point and aren't aware of it. Clearly you do not realize that what I was referring to isn't about Politics. Speaking with truth is most often met with denial. This Thread is a joke as you guys can see

Is English your first language? Why don't you elaborate in detail so that other people can understand what point you are trying to get across.

 

[Plinco]

Im sitting here with bunch of People and going through the comments here and the first thing that came to our Mind is seriously, whether you are illiterate and have mental problems or genuinely dont understand the point. Otherwise your gaslighting attempts are getting ridiculous now, Im not gonna deal with you. Those who understand will understand, if you cant see through it, you seriously should check yourself and I really mean seriously

No. It depends. Racism, Discrimination of Religion and many other things, things I have witnessed from People with a wide range vocabulary that are ruled over by emotions. How does that make the opposite Gender superior to the other in terms of rational thinking? Most People are average intelligent, average People are common and average People are more likely to fall into the pitfall of being emotional.

It all depends whether the Person is confident, secure, insecure, knowledge, Personaility, Experience and many other factors.

There's no clear context about what you are referring to. It looks like you're attempting to introduce a bunch of concepts into the discussion without detailed explanation. I suggest you work on your communication and comprehension skills. If you reply with a more detailed and constructive post, I would appreciate it.

 

[member162951]

I believe women can think logically and suppress their emotions, but are inclined not to for a combination of evolutionary and social reasons. There is a common belief in the manosphere that irrationality is innate to women, and that holding a woman accountable for thinking logically is a cruelty. What do you think and why?

If I'm reading this correctly, since when does not being logical equate to being emotional?

It's unclear how you define emotional but it doesn't mean crazy.

One can certainly be emotional AND logical simultaneously, can they not?

Being irrational is a completely different thing.

One can be unemotional and calm but completely irrational and illogical. I've seen it among both women and men.

OR emotional but rational and logical which I've also seen among women and men.

It's never so black and white to say it's one or the other. Emotions don't exist that way, they're nuanced.

 

[Plinco]

If I'm reading this correctly, since when does not being logical equate to being emotional?

It's unclear how you define emotional but it doesn't mean crazy.

One can certainly be emotional AND logical simultaneously, can they not?

Being irrational is a completely different thing.

One can be unemotional and calm but completely irrational and illogical. I've seen it among both women and men.

OR emotional but rational and logical which I've also seen among women and men.

It's never so black and white to say it's one or the other. Emotions don't exist that way, they're nuanced.

Excellent point. I'm writing something up where I'm going through this and will describe in detail. In the context of my original description, I've simplified it to logic being constructive and emotion to be automatic reaction to stimuli. That's an oversimplification but necessary to ask a more simple question and get a simple point across.

 

[buddhafukko]

Rationality is an expression of intelligence. Most women are less intelligent then most men. There are exceptions. I wouldn't date a woman as dumb as most men I meet. To say that women are not rational is absurd. On a whole, females are less rational, by nature, for very good reasons.