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Rational males. Are they really just paranoid and nuerotic?

AgentofChaos

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According to the manosphere it's best to be a "rational" male having rational discussions. At what point does rational become paranoid and obsessively nuerotic when it comes to women? Is it just the nature of the beast to be obsessive, compulsive, paranoid, and nuerotic when it comes to women and call it rational?

5000+ steps to dance like a chimp in hopes a woman or any woman a man wants responds positively.

Spreadsheets on how many daily shiit tests a man passes.

Obsessing over minute details and asking countless questions over the same topics.

Fear mongering each other over any and every perceived "mistake" a man could make that would deny him poon pleasure.

Is being blue pill really worse than being a rational male?
 

CptRomn

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So many pills....only one gag reflex.

The manosphere gets a little crazy. Too many nerds. There's nothing less cool than a step-by-step manual on how to talk a drunk 6.5 out of the bar, and into your car, when there's a 90% chance she went there hoping to get laid, in the first place. They're mostly just guys putting on their A game for D list *****.

These places are loud, too loud for conversion, anyway. If you're dancing with a chick, and she seems really into you, "let's go/get out of here" is probably all the conversation you need. Put your slide rule away.

As for a conscious awareness of primal sexual politics. That's useful, but not to over-analyze the sexiness out of it.

The primary importance is YOUT happiness, short-term and long-term. "Blue Pill" bliss can lead to long-term misery. "Red Pill" awareness can lead to unrelenting misery(remember Cypher from The Matrix?).

I remember reading where a man asked his grandfather how he was able to maintain such a long, happy marriage, and his grandfather replied, candidly, "your grandmother never was sure I wouldn't walk out on her, if she ever became insufferable." I got the impression that the grandfather had never needed to verbalize his willingness to walk, that he'd never made threats, like so many do, today, as if they were trying to manipulate their mommies, by threatening to run away from home. I just got the impression that the grandfather was an oldschool man, whose wife understood that he had options, from whom a disapproving look carried weight, and wasn't afraid to put his wife over his knee, if she needed correction, or to let her contemplate the horror of the absence of his steady hand from her life, inspired by no more than her insecurity, unbuttressed by supplicating reassurances from him. A woman seeking a man's approval is happier than one seeking his constant reassurances that he'll never leave her, no matter what, asking him to constantly sign her hall passes.

Some Redpillers swear off of marriage and family, failing to recognize that that's the root of the problems about which they complain, that men are only able to be dominant when women are willing to be submissive, which is completely back-a55wards from our anthropological default settings. Men don't exert dominance over submissive women. Unwavering masculine dominance causes women to submit, if not to you, to some more dominant man. Men don't seek permission and opportunities to become dominant. We just are. I've seen feminists play dominatrix to their soyboy boyfriends, and then give me "fvck me" eyes when I put her in her place. That's the natural order....not a society in which outliers cast seed and run, but one in which men rule the roost, and oversee the instruction of each successive generation.
I'm becoming more and more aware of this. Even in a professional setting I've found that my female superiors will initially test my mettle but if I'm masculine (whether I'm right or wrong) in demeanor it knocks them down a few thousand pegs and they act wholly submissive. Super bizarre, obviously I've learned to not be overbearing, and some women do take offense. It's a very primitive response almost, a reflex of sort that they submit to any/all dominant males.
 

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At what point does rational become paranoid and obsessively nuerotic when it comes to women?
To a large extent, being rational is a defense mechanism for most men.

Humans are not rational.

Relationships are not based on rational thinking.

Rational thinking can only happen OUTSIDE of the game, on the sidelines, watching the game.

No boxer ever won a fight by being rational INSIDE of the fight.

No boxer ever got into good fighting shape without a sh*tton of training.

Being rational can help, but it is usually used as a safe place on the sidelines.
 
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