Rare Mystery Footage (video) ! ! !

[thirtyplus]

Bottom Line

Last time I'm posting in this thread because I can tell a lot of you guys have no game at all. You need to shatter that reality that "Those girls are dumb" because reality check "This works for ALL GIRLS"

****, I'm with you, man. Talking to some of these guys is like banging my head against a wall.

Respect to all the guys that actually go out, and understand The Game, but all you keyboard jockies who have posted your limiting beliefs, well.....all I can say is, your loss. All it means is more hot girls for me

Peace.

 

[BuildingSomethingBig]

What the fcuk is with these losers hating on Mystery? This is exactly why SoSuave has gone to $hit. This site is now run by guys who know nothing about game or the community that come here and rack up hundreds of posts, spouting off their opinions about this and that, and act like an authority probably without ever having left their bedroom. People calling Mystery a f@g? WTF? The guy has laid more pu$sy than you have jerked off to. How about a little respect for one of the founders and cornerstones of the seduction community?

People are either severely ill-informed, or they just don't possess the intellect to see the structure and underlying principles of a seduction method; don't have the mind to seperate the relevant from the irrelevant. Essentially, the Mystery Method offers a perspective on a seductive interaction. Strip the Mystery Method down to its skeleton and you will have three parts: attraction; rapport+comfort; and seduction. As someone else has already mentioned, these are emotional states. All women will go through these stages in a succesfull seduction, no matter how classy or intelligent they are. Whatever your own goals, whether it be to get a number, a lay, a girlfriend, or a wife, you will have to go through these stages. The sooner you can understand that, the sooner you can apply Mystery's decade-plus of wisdom to your own situation.

As for people hating on the quality of girls he goes after. Who gives a fcuk? They are party girls - the kind Mystery likes to have fun with. The kind you take back for ONS's. Since when do you need a high-IQ to be able to give a good BJ?

 

[everywomanshero]

Misunderstandings

Actually, that video is pretty good.

When a woman throws up a standard ****-test, which is really just flirting, most guys cave-in and run away. To an AFC, he should just have a really boring "get to know you" conversation, get laid, then get married. They really can't understand flirting from a woman's point of view.

This video shows Mystery getting the same tests and passing them, even lazily doing so at times. He has total confidence in the PU, because he knows he has competence. If you want to play the game, then you have to be able to pass these tests or you'll lose most of your PUs and only get the ones that are spoon fed to you. This is something 90% of newbs do, and they run around all night long looking for the one handed to them on a silver spoon rather than learning how to PU. For this reason alone the video is quite good, even if a newb might not understand the specifics.

 

[Don John NJ]

What the fcuk is with these losers hating on Mystery? This is exactly why SoSuave has gone to $hit. This site is now run by guys who know nothing about game or the community that come here and rack up hundreds of posts, spouting off their opinions about this and that, and act like an authority probably without ever having left their bedroom.

You could not have said it better. I don't think I will participating here anymore. This forum is a joke, and this thread has proven it to anyone with any idea of seduction. It seems like the majority of people posting are ignorant teenagers with a lot of digital confidence that comes from being behind a keyboard.

I truly feel sorry for the people who come to this board and sincerely need help.

 

[The Juan and only]

Yeah, but the goal isn´t to meet your future wife or the woman of your dreams in a club. The goal is to bang hot party girls and I believe the MM helps you to accomplish that.

No, I don't think it does. At least not in proportion to the amount of effort.


look, you choose a good target, you go up to her. You act in a fun and confident way, you make small talk, dance, touch her, whatever. She'll probably be receptive, and if she's not. Move on.

imo that is about 90% as effective as MM.

dont waste your time with this logical crap.

"This works for ALL GIRLS"

That's utter bullsh1t.

 

[wayword]

Take it from someone who has been in the community since 2003, I have NEVER seen video that demonstrated fractionating and indirect tactics so well, as well as an overall vibe and rubber band snapbacks.

Care to 'splain all that?

But you have to admit, this is overpeacocking, lol! More clown than cool. Fortunately, they've toned it down since then.. :crackup:

 

[sparky0000]

anymore?

 

[everywomanshero]

ooops

I thought the video in question was the ****-test one from the DPUA, my bad!

 

[Thomas94305]

Wow.. Great video.. You hear all these "theories". But, rarely do we ever get to see anything in the field. People here are all up and down about if he's good or not... But, thing I got from his videos is just how unengaged he is. It just communicates something about his inner game. He can neg with his posture. He goes into a set, opens with "how are you?" and continues to walk by, he's not "hooked". I'll try that out for myself. I'll go in with strong eye contact, open, and be in the conversation. Will change that. Will try exactly same conversation basics.. open, vibing, whatever, but posture is more into room, distracted.

Anyhow, whether someone likes or hates what was shown in the video, I always gain from watching. If they are baaddd, then I know what NOT to do. If they're good, then that helps.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

haha no way Neil Strauss looks ridiculous. lmao

YEAH! He looks like Britney!

 

[Latinoman]

I'm not impressed. But I respect his ability to do what works for him.

I know he can pick women...but just a certain type of women (chicks that go to night club and are either into drugs or alcohol). Can he pick a woman he meet in the bus station or a more "professional" environment? I seriously doubt that.

In my personal opinion...his TRUE technique is the "alpha" technique. With that I mean...he has so many guys following him around "belivieving" on him that some women (nightclubs) will find that attractive or interesting. Heck, he can look RIDICULOUS...but because of the amount of men following him...that overcome how ridiculous he looks.

The Mystery secret is his ability to communicate a concept to MEN. Make no mistake about that. To then have those MEN follow him around. Women find the "man that is followed by many men" attractive. As power is attractive to women. And it comes down to that.

He is smart. He gets paid by MEN. He gets followed by the same men. And that is the "secret" (in my opinion) about his technique.

Send him alone to a more professional or "culture" environment. He will fail. Heck, send him to a d.c. nightclub ALONE in those customes and his success ratio will go down considerably. He needs an entourage in order for his technique to be successful. A very smart move as he also gets $$$.

I have known my share of men that have the ability to seduce women (my father being one)...typical rakes. Very rarely you see those kind of men "teaching" techniques as ANYONE knows that a "technique" is a very personal thing and based on certain conditions.

Will Mystery pull more women than me under his conditions (and that huge entourage)? Of course. It is a fascade. Would he be able to keep women interested in him for a longer period of time? Nope. It takes certain natural skills to keep a woman interested ONLY on you. I have that. Rollo Tomassi has that. And a few others have that.

Being a PUA does not translate into being a DJ. PUAs can b.s. their ways into getting a woman. But they cannot b.s. their ways into keeping that woman interested solely on them. Most even get cheated once in LTR.

 

[wayword]

Being a PUA does not translate into being a DJ. PUAs can b.s. their ways into getting a woman. But they cannot b.s. their ways into keeping that woman interested solely on them. Most even get cheated once in LTR.

I believe you are on-point.

In fact, I have a sneaking suspicion that PUAs camouflage their inability to KEEP a woman in an LTR by claiming they are not interested in LTRs and only STRs. But even if they wanted a faithful LTR, they probably couldn't maintain one.

In THE GAME, Mystery in fact could not successfully maintain LTRs and fell into some serious funks because of it.

With that said, I have a few observations:

1) Many PUAs do come off as effeminate. I think this is because naturally manly men don't have to learn PU - as women naturally flock to them. Similar to how smaller guys tend to gravitate towards martial arts - because big guys don't need it as much.

2) A lot of Mystery's techniques are crossed over from his training as a magician. Stage presence, stage angles, stage positioning, flamboyant costuming, working the crowd, etc. Obviously, this all suits him better to night game than day game.

3) Yes, I think even Mystery has said that women are attracted to a "leader of men." And, he certainly preaches what he practices... So, that's not a knock against him - but a further testament to his Game, actually.

4) I think his Game works better on upper-class suburban White girls who are more accustomed to metrosexuals...but wouldn't work as well on other types of women looking for more rugged men.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Out of curiosity, how many of you have read The Mystery Method or the Venusian Arts?

 

[Latinoman]

stupid analogy, as i said before mystery frequesnted the club for many years BY HIMSELF to find out what works and what doesnt. so that basically scraps your whole idea of the 'leader man' nice try at bashing mystery though.

Mystery CLAIMED he frequented the club scene for many years. Maybe he did. And I'm sure he learned that the easiest way to attract a bunch of drunk women is by he himself be the LEADER of an entourage.

I'm 38. I have been in nightclubs for over 20 years myself.

I'm not bashing him. I respect his approach and his ability to make $$$. It works for him under the settlings he is at.

 

[Latinoman]

I believe you are on-point.

In fact, I have a sneaking suspicion that PUAs camouflage their inability to KEEP a woman in an LTR by claiming they are not interested in LTRs and only STRs. But even if they wanted a faithful LTR, they probably couldn't maintain one.

In THE GAME, Mystery in fact could not successfully maintain LTRs and fell into some serious funks because of it.

With that said, I have a few observations:

1) Many PUAs do come off as effeminate. I think this is because naturally manly men don't have to learn PU - as women naturally flock to them. Similar to how smaller guys tend to gravitate towards martial arts - because big guys don't need it as much.

2) A lot of Mystery's techniques are crossed over from his training as a magician. Stage presence, stage angles, stage positioning, flamboyant costuming, working the crowd, etc. Obviously, this all suits him better to night game than day game.

3) Yes, I think even Mystery has said that women are attracted to a "leader of men." And, he certainly preaches what he practices... So, that's not a knock against him - but a further testament to his Game, actually.

4) I think his Game works better on upper-class suburban White girls who are more accustomed to metrosexuals...but wouldn't work as well on other types of women looking for more rugged men.

EXACTLY!

I agree 100% with you on this. I know the guy is brilliant! He knows what environment works better for him and what kind of women will fall for it. And he knows the concept of the "leader of the flock". I applied that, when I was in the military and hung around with a group of 15-20 Latinos. I was one of the top two guys...the guys that walked in the front of the group. In my case, the "well dressed" and "GQ" type guy. And this worked wonders with a certain group of women too. However, I learned that the best way to get laid, was by flying missions solo.

And I agree 100% on the Magician stage. That is actually the SECRET of his "alone" style...when he approaches a woman or even men. He probably applies the same techniques that applies to captivate his audience (for his magic gigs). He seduces MEN with his style. That's why I consider him more of a "seducer" (e.g. captivating) than a PUA (as I seriously doubt he has out of the ordinary sexual skills). And more of a PUA than a DJ.

I know my own style...would not work with a particular group of women. He knows his style either. But for it to generate an $$$...he must also showcase his style in the environment that would guarrantee a higher rate of success.

But I know one thing for a fact...in a LTR...I know what it takes to make a woman 100% interested in me...for years!

Good post wayward.

 

[thirtyplus]

Care to 'splain all that?

Sure. I wrote an entire post about it here http://realitymethod.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/pickup-in-action-mystery-video-deconstructed/

Indirect = stupid distinction from direct, but basically not coming in with the whole "Hi, my name is X, I just wanted to meet you" (which is direct).

Fractionating = moving from thread to thread at his own pace, in order to derail certain emotions and change emotional states. Guys here would call this "being a man" without really understanding how or why it works, or having very fine control over it.

Rubber band snapbacks = setting a hook and then "leaving" (either physically or emotionally). The girls snap back onto you like rubber bands because you've hooked them at high BT moments. A very short term tactic that generates massive attraction that can be quickly diffused, but good showmanship.

And to the guys here who are saying PUAs *can't* get LTRs -- utter bull****. Not only are you ignoring the evidence (Style and Lisa, Mystery and his serial monogamy, TD and his "created" insta-girlfriend) but you're forgetting the fact that probably NINETY PERCENT OF GUYS EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD CAN GET IN LTRS. That is the one guaranteed skill most guys have that eventually gets them some P*ssy.

It's not like it's hard, guys. You throw yourself at a woman long enough and she eventually gives in and gives you a relationship. ****, in every country outside the U.S. Canada and the UK the girl will pretty much stay faithful, too. You really think PUAs don't have those skills?

PUAs not only CAN get LTRs, they can create mLTR situations, or just have a LTR + tons of one night stands.

A lot of these distinctions -- PUA vs DJ vs seducer -- and "this type of girl" versus "that type of girl", the "*****s versus QUALITY girls", as well as "THIS ENVIRONMENT vs THAT OTHER ENVIRONMENT" are UTTER bull****, and very frankly come off as tryhard rationalizations -- sour grapes, if you will, from guys who are offended at having their reality shattered by a crazy-looking effeminate guy who's banged more chicks than they've whacked off to -- and gets paid to do it, to boot.

Social dynamics are a science, and guys who get very good at that science, it doesn't matter what environment you put them in, or what "type" of girls they're facing. You really think these guys that have banged over 100 chicks and talked to probably over 5,000 haven't encountered a pretty damn good spectrum and variety of the "types" of women out there?

I see why some guys find this board so frustrating....

 

[kimjong101]

Man...good thing he's in great shape and has an extremely symmetrical face, else he NEVER would have been able to get those chicks! Ain't that right, skip?

is that sarcasm? cuz if you got those things, you are set brotha. all you need to complete the package is a rod that packs it deep!

 

[realsmoothie]

Out of curiosity, how many of you have read The Mystery Method or the Venusian Arts?

Neither.

Why? Because really, from what people on the site have told me, most of what you need to know can be found in "the bible".

EDIT: should I read them?



As for "hating" on Mystery... I don't think there's much of that going on. People are having their doubts. I myself really see him having NO success using that look and that kind of approach at any bar I frequent. That doesn't mean it doesn't work in a lot of places, with a lot of girls. But it sure as h*ll won't work with the girls I see when I go out.

 

[Latinoman]

And to the guys here who are saying PUAs *can't* get LTRs -- utter bull****. Not only are you ignoring the evidence (Style and Lisa, Mystery and his serial monogamy, TD and his "created" insta-girlfriend) but you're forgetting the fact that probably NINETY PERCENT OF GUYS EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD CAN GET IN LTRS. That is the one guaranteed skill most guys have that eventually gets them some P*ssy.

Really? I want to see FACTUAL figures as I know what I'm talking about. Style and Lisa? How many years they have been together? How do you know she is loyal to him? You are so confused that it is ridiculous!

I should probably start writing and come with my own style...and get some $$$ too.

It's not like it's hard, guys.

Really? That might explain why we have so many idiots throwing their $$$$ away to people like "Mystery" and the likes.

You throw yourself at a woman long enough and she eventually gives in and gives you a relationship.

Really? My goodness!

****, in every country outside the U.S. Canada and the UK the girl will pretty much stay faithful, too.

I have visited dozens of countries. I can ASSURE you that you are mistaking. Sure...places where the woman is KILLED for adultery might be the exception.

You really think PUAs don't have those skills?

I KNOW. I was a rake once and had to get my sh_it together really quick.

 

[Poll]

It's an old con game, fake it til you make it.
as the dollar grows, so does the quality of hoes,
in the end, you become what you pretend.
either a millionaire, or a pua that is queer