Rap songs with awesome beats? Dont care if they're pop

frivolousz21

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i agree that its glorified.


I live 5 miles from East St louis, IL...USA.

its a fycking dump...99 percent african american.


it didnt get completely fycked until the past 10 yrs when the young black men decided to live the "life" rather then better themselves threw education
 

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frivolous: I agree that for the most part rap is detrimental (especially the mainstream), but there are some real gems in the underground.

Check out anything by:

Atmosphere
Cunninlynguists
Tribe Called Quest (cant believe nobody mentioned!)
Wu-tang Clan
Eyedea & Abilities
Gangstarr
Jeru the Damaja
MF Doom
Zion-I
Outkast (their early stuff, like ATLiens)
 

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ur right......

I cant tell you who is good anymore..because I dont know.

when I was 19....5 yrs ago..I remember I just realized how bad rap is for people I care for...some of my black friends..who really lived what the songs where saying.

and would be jobless, in and out of jail, or jams. It was sad to see them go from good kids to this because of influence by there own race.

I hope the good rap beats out the bad one of these days.
 

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Friv, let's not blame the music, each one is to blame. You can't blame a banana for you tripping over it.

Has anyone heard the new LL Cool J song? I suppose its more Hip-Hop, but whatever, I loved it, catchy!
 

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Never forget these words...

"Tvs, media, parents, teachers, bosses, mentors, etc, have people believing they'd ALL be rockstars and movie actors and tycoons, and people are slowing realizing they won't, and they're very, very angry."

A roughed up version of Tyler Durden's quote from Fight Club, movie and book versions.
 

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It's the way/how people are being raised. EVERYbody should have a dream, and goals, but they also must be realistic and achievable. We don't know what that ceiling IS, but what you see is mass competition, like trout up the stream, for the few seats available at the top of that media pyramid.

Part of the problem is HOW kids were raised, whether its the ghetto or not, when Dr Spock published his infamous stating kids SHOULD NOT be hit, they should be talked to, even at 5 years old, they should be spared, and given positive reinforcement for every little achievement minor or major. And this gives modern kids an OVER inflated sense of accomplishment, to where they feel MORE worthy or capable or expectent of things, before they've even taken BABY steps.

The other part are parents are generally absent, so they sit, day by day in front of TV's, or at school (which is only a minor version of what you see on TV), and they reprogram themselves.

I saw "8th and Ocean" last night with my girl, and was put off by how AWFUL the girls looked relative to OTHER models. I never found them to be model worthy, even the guy models on the show didn't say much, UNTIL the girls wanted Breast Implants. Then their status went up a few points. Are you serious?

But this is off topic. *I* want more beats, because I enjoy them at home, and last I checked, it never coaxed me into want a gun or protecting myself, or even popping caps. My rights give me reason to carry and for protection.


A-Unit
 

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Pimp101 said:
frivolous: I agree that for the most part rap is detrimental (especially the mainstream), but there are some real gems in the underground.

Check out anything by:

Atmosphere
Cunninlynguists
Tribe Called Quest (cant believe nobody mentioned!)
Wu-tang Clan
Eyedea & Abilities
Gangstarr
Jeru the Damaja
MF Doom
Zion-I
Outkast (their early stuff, like ATLiens)
That about cuts in half my list. From a production standpoint I gotta add:

Mr. Lif/The perceptionists (produced by Akrobatic)
Older Aesop Rock produced by Ant
Prince Paul
RJD2
Sage (IMO the best hip hop in the last 10yrs but not the best production)
Anticon
MURs
Beastie Boys
 

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Aesop Rock, Sage Francis and Anticon is horrible. Stay away from that stuff, trust me unless you like nasally voiced rappers who can't stay on beat and rap about space ****. I don't know how people listen to that honestly. Murs is nice though, Murs 3:16 is heat. He's got a new album out, haven't heard it yet.

I'd recommend Shock G's latest album fear of a Mixed Planet, nice. DJ Quik's latest, Trauma is nice too. Both albums actually have lyrical content beyond what you hear on the radio. Also Ice Cube is dropping some heat lately on the socially concious tip. Also I'd check out De La Soul, they're still doing it, and Paris and Kam. Sway and Tech's last album was hot.
 

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get outta here.

For production value Blockhead on the first Aesop discs is unbelievable. Yeah the dude is nasally, whiny and hasn't had a good album since labor days, but the older stuff is top notch production.

Sage is a better lyricist than anyone in hip hop period.

I just aint into the fake a$s gangster ****.
 

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belividere said:
Damn straight

and while your at it check out soul position (RJD2 and Blue Print)
 

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belividere said:
get outta here.

For production value Blockhead on the first Aesop discs is unbelievable. Yeah the dude is nasally, whiny and hasn't had a good album since labor days, but the older stuff is top notch production.

Sage is a better lyricist than anyone in hip hop period.

I just aint into the fake a$s gangster ****.
Aesop Rocks lyrics make absolutely no sense at all
 

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Don't count out Mars Ill though... manCHILD could really contend with TON of these rappers out here, PLUS he's a Christian, so to satisfy (hopefully?) friv's concern, there definitely are some rappers who can both bring positivity and growth to the scene.

Respect to Friv though, you're standing up for a great point...
 

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Yea, thanks cruise..

im not dogging rap.

rap itself is amazing.

but the content of some of it.

EXP. the mainstream USA rap is so bad...its really amazing its allowed to be on the air waves.

Free speech!
 

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Get some mixtapes. I got mad songs on my mp3 of mixtape music. Try getting some remixs too. :cool:
 

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Blackdragon: Thats like saying get some CD's. Almost every hip hop artist has released or been on mixtapes at some point. The question is who's worth checking out.

Anyone heard the new Cunninlynguists album - "A Piece Of Strange"? I cant stop bumping it. It has a more mature feel than their other albums, they're really stepping up their game. The new Ghostface is pure fire too :box: He never fails to deliver.
 

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If your only exposure to a particular type of music is what you hear some fool blasting in his car, or what you occasionally catch on a music channel when you are flipping through the dial, then you do not have the ethnomusicological authority to make sound pronouncements upon what you know nothing about. There are people who have PhD's and have done post-doctorate work on ethnomusicology; I know because I met one during to fall of 2004.

There is politically conscious rap, social awareness rap, african american empowerment rap, even religious gospel, all of which you will never hear on BET or vH1because the major record producers don't think that the heavier stuff would make good cash cows for the mainstream audience, a circuitous self-propelling process that dumbs down the target population by assuming their inability to process heavier material. Hence, the mindless masses slip further into intellectual atrophy because their lack of deeper stimulation. They latch on to the garbage spewed at them, the stench of which would assail the nostrils of the Almighty, for they know little of anything else, all the while perpetuating stereotypes that poison the already troubled waters of race relations in America.

When I look at Britney and Christina, do I then proceed to write off all pop as intellectually asinine, sexually degenerative self-hatred filth stewing in a corporate pot of materialism? I used to say all Jazz was alike (elevator music) until I started listening to it. I though all classical was boring and pretentious, until I opened myself to it. I

You don't have to like rap. I love rap and even I can't stand the sh!t salad that gets tossed around on BET sometimes, but if you don't know what goes on beneath the surface, then to paraphrase Tupac
"If you don't know, don't judge."
 

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theres a new song by Rza called Chamber Of Fear, that beat is crazy as hell it's like his movie scoring kinda ****

T.I.'s new album is hot too
 
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