Rant: Why Mike is starting to hate women as far as dating goes.

[ElStud]

I'm honestly starting to hate women. I mean dude, I can approach any set and get numbers, but it's just the type of women you have to go through, that pisses me off. Don't know how it is in colleges in other countries, but a lot of the girls I've approached in college are either stuck up, rude or full of themselves.

Now what I mean by stuck up, is there are a lot of delusional women who think that every guy wants to get in their pants and think that they're hotter than they are. Some women have to realize that not every man wants to bang their skanky ass and that sometimes we are simply going up there for the sake of having fun with her and getting to know her.

Then there are rude b*tches. You know, when you're walking one day, you get a lot of interest from a lot of sets, then that ONE b*tchy set comes that pisses you off. You've all had one of those sets. When you go up to a particular set and she just says "Oh, sorry I'm studying", "stop bothering me" or just plain ignores you. One b*tch even ignores me, then f*cking yells at me when I give her the hand and walk away. What goes through these b*tches minds that makes them think they can act like that? I don't know.

But yeah, it's girls like these that make me freaking hate women and want to stop doing seduction forever. I mean you could approach 100 sets, get decent results and these b*tches could totally f*ck over your whole mood. But when I think about it, that's sort of okay that they show their true colors from the start. Afterall, that's probably how she is with everyone in her little b*tch world.

Also, these b*tches need to understand that, I'm a man who has other things to do and I didn't HAVE to take 5 seconds out of my day to approach you, just for you to act like a rude skank. And while she might think she is in the position to be a b*tch, she's not. These chicks need to realize they are 1 of maybe 20 women that I approach daily.

But man, I could go on all day about why I hate women in general, but I won't lol. But yeah, just a little rant.

 

[bukowski_merit]

it just sounds like you have too much invested in the end result...

HB: "Can you get away? I'm studying!"
Bukowski: "What are you studying?"
HB: "Get away from me!"

(at this point my eyes are searching for an attractive woman walking by. I see one and pull her over...)

Bukowski: (to new girl) "hey this girl is studying "Get away from me" and needs your help"

...i then walk off laughing at what a strange situation i've just created...

this is funny to me... i've managed to turn something that could hurt my ego (getting rejected hard) into a funny situation...

i'm amusing myself! which is why i'm out... i'm not out to open sets... im not out to # close or f close... i'm out to amuse myself... i find rejection funny... because i always do something silly to make everyone say "what just happened" when it occurs...

With all this said: i don't even like nighttime pickup... i tend to stick to social and daytime pickups... i find it much easier to not get snob snuffed...

 

[ElStud]

it just sounds like you have too much invested in the end result...

HB: "Can you get away? I'm studying!"
Bukowski: "What are you studying?"
HB: "Get away from me!"

(at this point my eyes are searching for an attractive woman walking by. I see one and pull her over...)

Bukowski: (to new girl) "hey this girl is studying "Get away from me" and needs your help"

...i then walk off laughing at what a strange situation i've just created...

this is funny to me... i've managed to turn something that could hurt my ego (getting rejected hard) into a funny situation...

i'm amusing myself! which is why i'm out... i'm not out to open sets... im not out to # close or f close... i'm out to amuse myself... i find rejection funny... because i always do something silly to make everyone say "what just happened" when it occurs...

With all this said: i don't even like nighttime pickup... i tend to stick to social and daytime pickups... i find it much easier to not get snob snuffed...

That's all good, but my thing is, why waste time. But that could be good. And most of my pickups are daytime. From what I've seen women give you even more BS during nighttime pickup(You can be the funnest guy in the room and b*tches will be b*tches).

 

[oakraiderz2]

I'm honestly starting to hate women. I mean dude, I can approach any set and get numbers, but it's just the type of women you have to go through, that pisses me off. Don't know how it is in colleges in other countries, but a lot of the girls I've approached in college are either stuck up, rude or full of themselves.

Here we go again. Im assuming you rarely learn from your mistakes and that you struggle in school and obviously life in general. You come on here with the same banter every month, b*tchin and moaning about how youre such a prize but girls are stupid. Maybe you should drop the ego.

Now what I mean by stuck up, is there are a lot of delusional women who think that every guy wants to get in their pants and think that they're hotter than they are. Some women have to realize that not every man wants to bang their skanky ass and that sometimes we are simply going up there for the sake of having fun with her and getting to know her.

Youre not one to classify ANYONE as being delusional, expecially with the twisted mindset that you possess. Read what you wrote, you think every girl you talk to should want to hook up with you even though youre a complete chode. I would PAY to not only see what you look like, but see you approach a hot girl. You need to realize that not every woman wants ANYTHING to do with you. Stop rationalizing youre behavior by saying you want to get to know her cause thats some gay sh*t. You want sex as bad as everyone else but cant get any cause youre sh*t is weak. Now you see that you dont have a CLUE what youre doing being that a women with an attitude makes you this mad. If you knew how to run sh*t you would pop back and not let that ho get away with it, but you dont cause youre a chump.

Then there are rude b*tches. You know, when you're walking one day, you get a lot of interest from a lot of sets, then that ONE b*tchy set comes that pisses you off. You've all had one of those sets. When you go up to a particular set and she just says "Oh, sorry I'm studying", "stop bothering me" or just plain ignores you. One b*tch even ignores me, then f*cking yells at me when I give her the hand and walk away. What goes through these b*tches minds that makes them think they can act like that? I don't know.

Youre a tool. If a girl is studying you let her study. Too bad you completely lack any social skills which is why you keep f*cking up. You remind me of one of my friends who is TERRIBLE with girls and talks just like you. He thinks girls are b*tchy and doesnt know what to do about it due to the lack of social awareness, similar to you. Get a damn clue. Pick your battles. If you go into the SAME situations and the SAMETHING keeps happening, yet you do nothing to adjust, your life will be difficult, trust me.

But yeah, it's girls like these that make me freaking hate women and want to stop doing seduction forever. I mean you could approach 100 sets, get decent results and these b*tches could totally f*ck over your whole mood. But when I think about it, that's sort of okay that they show their true colors from the start. Afterall, that's probably how she is with everyone in her little b*tch world.

Those girls make you hate women because theyre the girls that you want but have no f*cking chance in hell to get cause youre not good enough at what you do, even though you think you are. I could approach these b*tches and get better results than you guarenteed cause im not a tard, im actually attractive, and i dont talk about pikachu and karate. Youre CLEARLY demonstrating to EVERYONE on this site that youre all talk and are oblivious to how to handle women. Still havent got a date have ya? NO. Maybe its time to leave the safety of your closet...

Also, these b*tches need to understand that, I'm a man who has other things to do and I didn't HAVE to take 5 seconds out of my day to approach you, just for you to act like a rude skank. And while she might think she is in the position to be a b*tch, she's not. These chicks need to realize they are 1 of maybe 20 women that I approach daily.

You play video games and thats it. Hahahaha, its funny how you think youre doing them a favor by approaching them, seems like a bitter disposition before you even wrote this post. You get rejected by 20 women daily, yet you do nothing to better the odds. 0 for 20 is pretty much aweful. Youre batting 0 cause you havent even had a date. I could go out and act like a dbag and be more successful than you.

But man, I could go on all day about why I hate women in general, but I won't lol. But yeah, just a little rant.

You sir are the BIGGEST f*g on this site. At least you have a follower in capecrusader or whatever his name is...Maybe you should just give up, cause you have a plethora of problems that need to be addressed first.

 

[Vice]

You have inner game issues.

Go.

 

[ElStud]

Here we go again. Im assuming you rarely learn from your mistakes and that you struggle in school and obviously life in general. You come on here with the same banter every month, b*tchin and moaning about how youre such a prize but girls are stupid. Maybe you should drop the ego.



Youre not one to classify ANYONE as being delusional, expecially with the twisted mindset that you possess. Read what you wrote, you think every girl you talk to should want to hook up with you even though youre a complete chode. I would PAY to not only see what you look like, but see you approach a hot girl. You need to realize that not every woman wants ANYTHING to do with you. Stop rationalizing youre behavior by saying you want to get to know her cause thats some gay sh*t. You want sex as bad as everyone else but cant get any cause youre sh*t is weak. Now you see that you dont have a CLUE what youre doing being that a women with an attitude makes you this mad. If you knew how to run sh*t you would pop back and not let that ho get away with it, but you dont cause youre a chump.



Youre a tool. If a girl is studying you let her study. Too bad you completely lack any social skills which is why you keep f*cking up. You remind me of one of my friends who is TERRIBLE with girls and talks just like you. He thinks girls are b*tchy and doesnt know what to do about it due to the lack of social awareness, similar to you. Get a damn clue. Pick your battles. If you go into the SAME situations and the SAMETHING keeps happening, yet you do nothing to adjust, your life will be difficult, trust me.




Those girls make you hate women because theyre the girls that you want but have no f*cking chance in hell to get cause youre not good enough at what you do, even though you think you are. I could approach these b*tches and get better results than you guarenteed cause im not a tard, im actually attractive, and i dont talk about pikachu and karate. Youre CLEARLY demonstrating to EVERYONE on this site that youre all talk and are oblivious to how to handle women. Still havent got a date have ya? NO. Maybe its time to leave the safety of your closet...



You play video games and thats it. Hahahaha, its funny how you think youre doing them a favor by approaching them, seems like a bitter disposition before you even wrote this post. You get rejected by 20 women daily, yet you do nothing to better the odds. 0 for 20 is pretty much aweful. Youre batting 0 cause you havent even had a date. I could go out and act like a dbag and be more successful than you.



You sir are the BIGGEST f*g on this site. At least you have a follower in capecrusader or whatever his name is...Maybe you should just give up, cause you have a plethora of problems that need to be addressed first.

Assume what you will. And yeah, I do want to get to know her. I want sex eventually, but I want to ofcourse get to know her. And no, i'm not like that. I don't see the point in arguing on and on with a girl who was rude to me.

And I don't go into the SAME situations and have it always happen. A lot of time I can go up to a girl who's studying and I can talk to and even get her number. But like I said, sometimes there's just that b*tch who thinks they have the right to be rude to somebody.

Want them? Not always. Sometimes I will go up to the girl, just cause she's a girl and I want to practice socializing and gaming. Excuse me if I don't want to screw the brains out of every girl I approach. And yes, I have got a date, but that's besides the point.

And dude, think what you want about me. It's not my place to argue against bold assumptions.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

I'm honestly starting to hate women. I mean dude, I can approach any set and get numbers, but it's just the type of women you have to go through, that pisses me off. Don't know how it is in colleges in other countries, but a lot of the girls I've approached in college are either stuck up, rude or full of themselves.

I have to honestly say, the cold approach dynamic in college i would even say can be considered harder than the real world, because of some of the things are things against you. Some of the girls have social circles, like u but influenced by friends, have school projects, etc...all of that against us. Yea, people could say "College is easier" but only if its social circle based, in my opinion.

Now what I mean by stuck up, is there are a lot of delusional women who think that every guy wants to get in their pants and think that they're hotter than they are. Some women have to realize that not every man wants to bang their skanky ass and that sometimes we are simply going up there for the sake of having fun with her and getting to know her.

Let them think that, just have the frame that ur not even concerned with it.

Then there are rude b*tches. You know, when you're walking one day, you get a lot of interest from a lot of sets, then that ONE b*tchy set comes that pisses you off. You've all had one of those sets. When you go up to a particular set and she just says "Oh, sorry I'm studying", "stop bothering me" or just plain ignores you. One b*tch even ignores me, then f*cking yells at me when I give her the hand and walk away. What goes through these b*tches minds that makes them think they can act like that? I don't know.

Its expected, don't even worry about it. There are bound to be bad eggs. Plus why even give her the hand? She's not worth it. lol

But yeah, it's girls like these that make me freaking hate women and want to stop doing seduction forever. I mean you could approach 100 sets, get decent results and these b*tches could totally f*ck over your whole mood. But when I think about it, that's sort of okay that they show their true colors from the start. Afterall, that's probably how she is with everyone in her little b*tch world.

Consider it beneficial that these women are doing this. U've seen how they are. This works to ur advantage...ur weeding out the ones who u aren't suppose to be with. Remember, she's not anything special. There's a million of her, but only one of u ;-)

Also, these b*tches need to understand that, I'm a man who has other things to do and I didn't HAVE to take 5 seconds out of my day to approach you, just for you to act like a rude skank. And while she might think she is in the position to be a b*tch, she's not. These chicks need to realize they are 1 of maybe 20 women that I approach daily.

That's the thing El Stud, she has free will. She can act however she wants, it just means doing so will make it harder to meet a stud, thats all.

But man, I could go on all day about why I hate women in general, but I won't lol. But yeah, just a little rant.

Good, its out of ur system. Now get back out there, and do what u will

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

OakRaiderz...yes...i know El Stud can be an idiot most of the time...but just remember this, at least he's giving the effort and is a bit more socially intelligent these days. There are a lot of guys on this site, who give up after it gets too hard or its harder than they thought or they check the material out but still decide to be a victim of social conditioning in the dating world or even worse...make up fake Field Reports but yet be KJs...or be like what Mad Maniac was, a tool. :-(

Despite El Stud's drawbacks, he's got heart and he'll never give up.

 

[Ken785]

dude...ElStud is a little misleading...try EL AFC.

Cheer up man...improve all aspects of your life...your outer and inner game...then the women will naturally follow.

 

[abcd_z]

Oh wow, it's like looking at a snapshot of my past.

For whatever reason, ElStud has the same root problem I had a long time ago:
I couldn't accept the advice of other people. I would rationalize that I had everything under control and that I didn't need to change anything. Then, inevitably, things wouldn't go as perfectly as I expected them to, and I would ask other people for advice.

...and then completely ignore anything they said unless it conformed to my pre-existing beliefs.

ElStud: You've gotten a lot of feedback to your posts. But the one thing I've noticed above anything else is that you don't believe that anybody else could possibly be right, that other people could possibly help you out.

And that's a shame, because if you keep up like that, you'll burn yourself out.

Scratch that, it's already happening. What you posted at the top of the screen, that's a major symptom. You've put unrealistic expectations on yourself, but won't accept the help from other people that's necessary for you to get there.

Other people may flame you, but I've got nothing but love for you.

I hope you turn things around, whatever that takes for you.

Best of luck.

 

[ElStud]

Wow, a man with his own opinion imagine that lol. Really though, this is what it is, a rant. It's my beliefs based off my experiences. I APPROACH a lot and this is what I've mostly seen around campus, girls who are b*tchy, full of themselves or stuck up. Oh yeah, let's not forget girls who think every man was to be in there pants. Why do you think these b*tches say "I have a boyfriend"? B*tch who said anything about wanting to be your god damn boyfriend. Get off your freaking high horse.

A woman with confidence is great, but it's another thing to just be damn arrogant and full of herself. And sometimes you will find a girl who's actually cool and you say "Man, maybe women aren't so bad afterall". Then you approach and encounter a b*tch and that all turns around.

 

[Metacomet]

Then there are rude b*tches... that ONE b*tchy set comes that pisses you off. ...One b*tch even ignores me....these b*tches...and these b*tches could totally f*ck over your whole mood....probably how she is with everyone in her little b*tch world.

Also, these b*tches need to understand that, I'm a man who has other things to do and ... she is in the position to be a b*tch, she's not.

I could go on all day about why I hate women in general, but I won't lol.

Wait there's more...

girls who are b*tchy, full of themselves or stuck up. Why do you think these b*tches say "I have a boyfriend"? B*tch who said anything about wanting to be your god damn boyfriend.

:crackup: Wow.

I have found that a man's ability to act right around women is in direct opposite proportion of how many time's he uses the word 'b1tch' to describe women.

I have also found that men who complain about women or 'hate' them are fvcking creepy and should avoid females altogether. You are the type of aggressive 'losers' that freak women out and make them think all men are the same. You approach women demanding their interest, respect, etc. and get all butt hurt when they don't see any value in you .... think about it man.

You've already been served in this thread. And I'm a fvcking noob who hasn't gamed more than a handful of women besides my past girlfriends. Good lord I feel good about myself visiting this site. :crackup:

Good luck with everything... b1tch.

 

[chinwaggler]

With women like that you either make them realise what a ***** they are, or play them like ****.

Just tell her she's rude, or do something ridiculous that embarasses her. A girl in a lecture said 'shouldn't you be listening?'. I was so close to putting my hand up and telling the lecturer that she was farting or hitting on me or something.

 

[ElStud]

Wait there's more...



:crackup: Wow.

I have found that a man's ability to act right around women is in direct opposite proportion of how many time's he uses the word 'b1tch' to describe women.

I have also found that men who complain about women or 'hate' them are fvcking creepy and should avoid females altogether. You are the type of aggressive 'losers' that freak women out and make them think all men are the same. You approach women demanding their interest, respect, etc. and get all butt hurt when they don't see any value in you .... think about it man.

You've already been served in this thread. And I'm a fvcking noob who hasn't gamed more than a handful of woman besides my past girlfriends. Good lord I feel good about myself visiting this site. :crackup:

Good luck with everything...

Say and think what you want man. The numbers I've gotten from girls don't lie and frankly I don't care if you believe me or not. So call me creepy, loser whatever, means nothing to me.

 

[The Inside Man]

Being hateful will only bring you down.

If you approach 20 women a day and consistently get the same responses, like others have said, it's time to stop looking at these 20 women a day like they are doing something wrong, and time to take a look at yourself.

The "*****iness" and "rudeness" you describe are normal reactions people have when someone is trying to pick them up or give them attention they don't want. Are some girls meaner than others? Sure, just like guys.

However, you are projecting your inability to close onto your targets.

The first thing you should do is stop approaching 20 women per day. Focus on quality and not quantity. Make the several interactions you have with women worth it, and if she thinks, "Oh, I just happen to be in the same place with this guy, and he is really funny and is making me feel good", it will go better than, "Oh, here's El stud, he is walking up to me with robot like effectiveness, he must be trying to pick me up".

So instead of targeting 20 girls per day, talk to the hotties that just happen to be next to you in line, or in class, etc. Rather than systematically approaching 20 girls every day.

Now that you have more time since you're not approaching and trying to close all these chicks, it's time for some work on yourself.

It is clear that there are some inner game issues here and that what I just prescribed will not work if those are not fixed first.

Keep socializing alot, but the key is to go at it in a fun way, WITHOUT having expectations or attachment to the outcome.

There is no try, there is just DO. Realizing that has been a big turning point for me over the years, as I have stopped TRYING to hang out with a certain girl, stopped TRYING to get her number, and just have fun and take advantage of opportunities as they naturally present themselves. What you are doing is probably creating an unnatural feeling in the girls you're approaching, that they can tell you're on a mission to close and not to meet them.

Some girls will still give you negative vibes, this happens to everyone. Forget about them, don't give them negative energy. Good luck.

 

[DonJuan11]

It's my beliefs based off my experiences. I APPROACH a lot and this is what I've mostly seen around campus, girls who are b*tchy, full of themselves or stuck up.

You are not giving us specific examples. If you go up to a girl who is studying and ask for her phone number when she has a midterm the next day, of course she is going to tell you where to go. I would too if the situation was reversed.

Oh yeah, let's not forget girls who think every man was to be in there pants. Why do you think these b*tches say "I have a boyfriend"? B*tch who said anything about wanting to be your god damn boyfriend. Get off your freaking high horse.

Again, you are hiding your examples from us. If you are asking for their phone number and coming on strong, of course they will say they have a boyfriend if they are not interested.

"You are a hot 20 year old girl, can I get your phone number so we can just hang out and I can practice my social skills with you?"

What girl in their right mind would say yes to that?

A woman with confidence is great, but it's another thing to just be damn arrogant and full of herself. And sometimes you will find a girl who's actually cool and you say "Man, maybe women aren't so bad afterall". Then you approach and encounter a b*tch and that all turns around.

Not every girl is going to give you a positive response as though they want to be your best friend and pump up your ego on every approach. In fact, I would consider 1/20 a very good day. You have a very sensitive ego ElStud, and you must provide us with examples instead of putting down, insulting, and calling names to women who don't like to bothered when an aggressive guy comes along while they are studying for a final exam.

 

[verysuave]

dont BUY into the "MYSTERY METHOD" crap tooooo much.

When i first started here, 3 years ago, i thought mytery method was the shiet...
now come to think of it, its mostly bull crap.

NOthing beats the real you cuz women will see through that.

(I used to hate that line when guys tell me here in this forum "Women will see the real confidence through"

Now i know what they mean.

 

[ElStud]

Being hateful will only bring you down.

If you approach 20 women a day and consistently get the same responses, like others have said, it's time to stop looking at these 20 women a day like they are doing something wrong, and time to take a look at yourself.

The "*****iness" and "rudeness" you describe are normal reactions people have when someone is trying to pick them up or give them attention they don't want. Are some girls meaner than others? Sure, just like guys.

However, you are projecting your inability to close onto your targets.

The first thing you should do is stop approaching 20 women per day. Focus on quality and not quantity. Make the several interactions you have with women worth it, and if she thinks, "Oh, I just happen to be in the same place with this guy, and he is really funny and is making me feel good", it will go better than, "Oh, here's El stud, he is walking up to me with robot like effectiveness, he must be trying to pick me up".

So instead of targeting 20 girls per day, talk to the hotties that just happen to be next to you in line, or in class, etc. Rather than systematically approaching 20 girls every day.

Now that you have more time since you're not approaching and trying to close all these chicks, it's time for some work on yourself.

It is clear that there are some inner game issues here and that what I just prescribed will not work if those are not fixed first.

Keep socializing alot, but the key is to go at it in a fun way, WITHOUT having expectations or attachment to the outcome.

There is no try, there is just DO. Realizing that has been a big turning point for me over the years, as I have stopped TRYING to hang out with a certain girl, stopped TRYING to get her number, and just have fun and take advantage of opportunities as they naturally present themselves. What you are doing is probably creating an unnatural feeling in the girls you're approaching, that they can tell you're on a mission to close and not to meet them.

Some girls will still give you negative vibes, this happens to everyone. Forget about them, don't give them negative energy. Good luck.

What I'm saying though is, out of 20 women I approach there might be 2 or so b*tchy sets and a couple of sets that don't go well. Like I said, I'm only saying my opinion. To me if I walk up to a women and she's "I have a boyfriend" that's arrogance on her part. And it is true, that I didn't have to waste my time going up to her.

Like I said sometmes you'll find cool sets, but a lot of the time, it's just sets I don't see going anywhere. And overall my hate of women goes beyond game. I mean they lie, they cheat, they use men and a lot of them are downright spoiled and need a reality check.

I'm not giving up on the whole seduction but man, if I see another stuck up b*tch I'm gonna call her out on it. I don't care if it's "reactive" it's what I feel I must do. Like "Listen girl, I'm gonna go, but honestly I want to know that you're f*cking rude and need a reality check. I'm surprised any guy would want you with that attitude".

What's funny about most chicks though, is if you take away their beauty, most of them are NOTHING. Without beauty they can't get validation from men and thus become insecure. A women who has true confidence and is secure with herself, will still be confident WITHOUT her beauty.

And if there's another thing I must admit, it's that I let these b*tches get to me too easily. But man it's hard not to let these stupid chicks get to you.

 

[oakraiderz2]

I have found that a man's ability to act right around women is in direct opposite proportion of how many time's he uses the word 'b1tch' to describe women.

I have also found that men who complain about women or 'hate' them are fvcking creepy and should avoid females altogether. You are the type of aggressive 'losers' that freak women out and make them think all men are the same. You approach women demanding their interest, respect, etc. and get all butt hurt when they don't see any value in you .... think about it man.

You've already been served in this thread. And I'm a fvcking noob who hasn't gamed more than a handful of women besides my past girlfriends. Good lord I feel good about myself visiting this site. :crackup:

Good luck with everything... b1tch.

I fully concur with your point. I have a friend who is EXACLTY like that.

Elstud, if you had a date you would run on this site and post about it so you can make us think that youre the coolest guy. Im pretty sure NO girl would hang out with your creepy angry ass. Just because your gayass gets numbers doesnt mean SH*T. Youre a joke and all the girls you talk to know it. Haha...i wanna make a movie about you to make everyone else feel better. Elstud goes in for the kiss and...hahaha. Post when you actually touch a girl or lose that v card...hahah.

 

[The Inside Man]

It's normal that some people act like that, Elstud. I think you should really reread my post and think about what you can personally do to improve your life, which is not dependent on what strangers say to you.