Ranking American cities for women & dating

[Manure Spherian]

I mean FFS the island itself is shaped like a turd.

Terrible. I better get out of here.

 

[SW15]

"Houston- 10- There are plenty of single women, but the logistics can be challenging, and you may need to sift through a lot of individuals with questionable behavior in this area." Can you elaborate on this? I live in H-Town and just wondering what type of questionable behavior that you speak of ???.

Be glad that you live in Houston as it is a superior mating environment to Dallas and Austin. Dallas and Austin are the 2 toughest environments in Texas.

 

[Mertz09]

Be glad that you live in Houston as it is a superior mating environment to Dallas and Austin. Dallas and Austin are the 2 toughest environments in Texas.

Thanks!

 

[SW15]

When I have been to the Colorado mountain towns and Park City, UT, it has either been with an established girlfriend or on a family trip with a parent or parents.

Generally, when I have looked around, I've seen mostly couples. I don't see many cases of younger, single, and childless women in those towns. I also don't see single men either. Unmarried men who are childless aren't going to a place like Aspen, Vail, or Breckenridge alone for a week. They'll typically go with their girlfriends or with a parent or parents. I could envision the 40+ divorced woman getting alimony from her beta ex-husband (likely a business or medical professional) in the mountain towns. Childless men typically aren't interested in these women, at least for more than hit it and quit it.

I might be able to envision some Denver single and childless females in the Colorado mountain towns for a long weekend, either in winter or summer. These are likely women with higher paying jobs, probably $75,000+. Maybe some Denver guys could find them there. However, either in summer or winter, the mountain sports guys will exceed the mountain sports women, which is why Denver has its Menver reputation.

On the skiing thing, I’ve personally seen single dads skiing with kids and plenty of single guys either alone or in friend groups who are all out skiing & snowboarding together. Ditto the women although it’s more unusual for a single woman to be skiing alone unless she’s a local to whatever area.

So I strongly disagree with @SW15 on this. Additionally riding the lifts with strangers is an automatic conversation starter. On days when I ski without hubby there are any number of available men who chat me up on the lifts. Of course they discover in short order that I’m married, but they are on the slopes having conversations and meeting women, some of whom are single & available, especially in younger age groups.

Skiing is uniquely well positioned to meet someone and hang out right away too. You can ask if your lift mate wants to ski a bit with you. Great insta date opportunities.

Again, what I personally observe.

When I wrote what I wrote about the Colorado and Utah mountain towns, it wasn't about just winter. The mountain towns in those states are also active in the summer. It's common for people from warm large cities in Florida, Texas, and Arizona to go to the Colorado and Utah mountain towns in the summer to avoid the hottest conditions in those states.

In recent years, I've been to the mountain towns more often in summer than winter.

I don't think a lot of unmarried and childless women from Denver would spend a 2-4 day weekend in any of the mountain towns to the west of Denver within 200 miles of Downtown Denver. Of the resort towns, Breckenridge is the most feasible for 2 day weekend. It would be much less common for a group of 2-3 unmarried and childless Denver women to do this. There are many more Denver men would who do this. This is part of Denver's 'Menver' reputation. When I write this, I'm thinking of both ski/snowboard winter trips or summer trips around hiking, mountain biking, tennis, horseback riding, whitewater rafting, etc.

Almost all those activities that I mentioned in either season have far more men than women that participate in them.

Utah is a little different than Colorado because Park City and Deer Valley are so much closer to Salt Lake City than the mountain towns are to Denver. However, that is offset by the dating culture in Salt Lake City where there are a lot of early marriage.

In both Colorado and Utah mountain towns, there is tourism from areas well beyond Denver and Salt Lake City. Unmarried, childless male tourists from distant areas would exceed unmarried, childless female tourists. If I were skiing at Vail or Aspen this weekend and examining characteristics of skiers and snowboarders, I would likely find at least 5 unattached, childless men for every 1 unattached, childless woman. In Vail or Aspen, I would probably find more people from further away than Denver.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

Be glad that you live in Houston as it is a superior mating environment to Dallas and Austin. Dallas and Austin are the 2 toughest environments in Texas.

I've never lived in Texas but my unscientific opinion is that the nicest people in the US are from Houston.

 

[SW15]

I've never lived in Texas but my unscientific opinion is that the nicest people in the US are from Houston.

I would say that Salt Lake City and Boise people are nicer than Houston people.

A lot of Californians are moving to Boise and starting to ruin it though.

There would be very little talk about Salt Lake City and Boise on this forum because they have less typical mating environments than most major US cities. They are also smaller than most of the cities mentioned in the first post of this thread, especially Boise.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I've never lived in Texas but my unscientific opinion is that the nicest people in the US are from Houston.

Where the fvck you get this information from? Most Houston drivers are trying to kill each other out on the rode.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

Where the fvck you get this information from? Most Houston drivers are trying to kill each other out on the rode.

Nobody is nice on the road.

 

[oc16]

I've found Kiev, Dnipro, Kherson, St. Petersburg, Volgograd & Warsaw to be far better than any American city,

Volgograd is on my bucket list (for WW2 History reasons)

 

[Mertz09]

Where the fvck you get this information from? Most Houston drivers are trying to kill each other out on the rode.

LOL. I’m from Houston was born here and yes, many very nice people it’s all the crazies moving in from everywhere else that have mucked things up.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

When I wrote what I wrote about the Colorado and Utah mountain towns, it wasn't about just winter. The mountain towns in those states are also active in the summer. It's common for people from warm large cities in Florida, Texas, and Arizona to go to the Colorado and Utah mountain towns in the summer to avoid the hottest conditions in those states.

In recent years, I've been to the mountain towns more often in summer than winter.

I don't think a lot of unmarried and childless women from Denver would spend a 2-4 day weekend in any of the mountain towns to the west of Denver within 200 miles of Downtown Denver. Of the resort towns, Breckenridge is the most feasible for 2 day weekend. It would be much less common for a group of 2-3 unmarried and childless Denver women to do this. There are many more Denver men would who do this. This is part of Denver's 'Menver' reputation. When I write this, I'm thinking of both ski/snowboard winter trips or summer trips around hiking, mountain biking, tennis, horseback riding, whitewater rafting, etc.

Almost all those activities that I mentioned in either season have far more men than women that participate in them.

Utah is a little different than Colorado because Park City and Deer Valley are so much closer to Salt Lake City than the mountain towns are to Denver. However, that is offset by the dating culture in Salt Lake City where there are a lot of early marriage.

In both Colorado and Utah mountain towns, there is tourism from areas well beyond Denver and Salt Lake City. Unmarried, childless male tourists from distant areas would exceed unmarried, childless female tourists. If I were skiing at Vail or Aspen this weekend and examining characteristics of skiers and snowboarders, I would likely find at least 5 unattached, childless men for every 1 unattached, childless woman. In Vail or Aspen, I would probably find more people from further away than Denver.

Colorado and Denver has to have one of the strangest vibes I have ever seen in a state. The people are in NPC mode and intolerable for the most part. You get a lot of people who sound like they belong on Reddit in that place. Colorado in general just has this odd overcompensating tough guy vibe to it. No one sees the people there as being strong like people from Texas and so they come off as these overcompensating dude bros with a weird hint of smugness in them, it is something you have to experience up front to really get.

TBH, outside of the southwest, I find people on the west coast just really odd and strange. I was at the airport in Denver and one dude was hopped up on drugs but the airport worker smiled and let him through.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Getting laid in NYC was easy for me.

Getting laid in NYC is easy for anyone who has some testosterone in them and isn't a stereotypical reddit neckbeard or Aspie PUA dork......so that excludes 90% of guys in the PUA community.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I had a buddy who was cleaning up in Ogden Utah he was loving it, Never been to Utah so do your own research
I mentioned Wisconsin before, stay away from Milwaukee I'm talking Madison Wisconsin or Eau Claire any college town in Wisconsin minus Milwaukee

I have heard a lot of good things about that town but man I must say, people in Utah give me the creep vibes, especially the dudes there. It is like every other guy is trying to convert you to a cult and almost every single dude I have known from Utah was a predator. Like you know those types of guys that are all smiles to your face and taking some moral (usually religious) high ground but you know for a fact this dude take advantage of a vulnerable woman? That is the vibe I have gotten from almost every single Utah dude I have met.

It sucks because the company I work for is HQ'd in Utah and so far, it seems like:

1. All the chicks in the Salt Lake City office want to bang me.

2. The dudes sound thirsty as heck as they ask me about Miami, like they have that desperate predatory look in their eyes

But I hear Ogden has a lot of single nurses which makes it a gold mine for game.

 

[SW15]

outside of the southwest

You don't even like the Southwest that much. Here are a couple of instances of you taking shots at Arizona. These are valid criticisms of Arizona.

Observations on Phoenix's Scene

@SW15 I was actually at LIV a few weeks ago, it is one of the biggest nightclubs in Miami and at one point considered top 10 nationwide for the amount of money it brought in. My wing and I are having a good time and doing a lot of approaches. Since it is a nightclub, you do get blown out fast. I...

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One dead giveaway of a city/place being awful for dating and meeting women.

Really don't think it matters what country you are in anymore All women are viewing globally interconnected media content via channels like TIKTOK and Instagram It's these platforms that breed some of the worst behaviours and attitudes in women , not the location Men also adopt bad habits...

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I find people on the west coast just really odd and strange.

They often are.

Colorado and Denver has to have one of the strangest vibes I have ever seen in a state. The people are in NPC mode and intolerable for the most part. You get a lot of people who sound like they belong on Reddit in that place. Colorado in general just has this odd overcompensating tough guy vibe to it. No one sees the people there as being strong like people from Texas and so they come off as these overcompensating dude bros with a weird hint of smugness in them, it is something you have to experience up front to really get.

This is true.

When you go to a Colorado mountain town like Breckenridge, Vail, or Aspen, you're running into mainly non-locals. The service sector workers in those towns are Colorado locals. I don't believe the typical guy goes to a Colorado mountain to seduce. He's most likely going there for recreational sports activity or other touristy activity. If he is unmarried, this is usually a trip with his longer term girlfriend.

Denver is the large city and most interactions in Denver will be with Denver locals.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I cannot say good things about Atlanta or Charlotte OP. Maybe these cities do have hot girls but the vast majority of them are in tight social circles that are tough to get into if you are not a local or were raised there. Just living in these cities drains you of your life energy as people around you are all a bunch of larda$$es that worship football/sports and their cushy office jobs.

The reality about Atlanta and Charlotte is that any outsider is ultimately picking off transplant women and women not a part of the scene. In Atlanta, this means Yankee women and women from southern states who are not a part of that postgrad Buckhead Greek Life clique. In Charlotte, it is the same thing.

Atlanta and Charlotte are Bizzaro Worlds of the dating game. You see fat ugly dudes with hot chicks and then realize chicks want them because somehow, them playing football in high school matters in their 20s. The clique works overtime to keep outsiders out and if you are a white guy from the north, good luck! I used to know a prominent bar owner in Buckhead that told me that he would never hire a Yankee as a bartender, he only wants southerners.

Just beware of Atlanta and Charlotte, you are picking off outsiders when you do game in these cities as social circles there housing the hottest girls are impenetrable.

In NYC, LA, and Miami, the women value objective SMV. In Charlotte and Atlanta, women value subjective SMV. Subjective SMV meaning that in normal circumstances, some fat bubba would be way lower SMV than a Cristiano Ronaldo but hey, he played high school football and that still matters at the age of 30.

At least in an NYC or LA, you know what you need to work on and get to work. In Atlanta and Charlotte, you can be a high SMV guy but it feels like gaming in a small town because of how restrictive her circle gets. Like these women have been brainwashed into liking losers that are overweight and dress like crap. People never grow past their college Greek Life days and it is pathetic.

 

[SW15]

the company I work for is HQ'd in Utah and so far, it seems like:

1. All the chicks in the Salt Lake City office want to bang me.

That's great. Salt Lake City women aren't that promiscuous either. There are a lot of married Mormon women there.

The dudes sound thirsty as heck as they ask me about Miami, like they have that desperate predatory look in their eyes

Are these Mormon men who think that they'd be able to have lots of casual sex in Miami? I doubt that any random Mormon guy who lives in Utah could show up in Miami and game well. Most of those guys would be borderline incel in Miami. It's possible some might get a girlfriend, but it's doubtful most would able to seduce numerous women in a 6 month period.

people in Utah give me the creep vibes

I haven't felt that from most Utah people, though there are some examples of creepy Utah guys.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

That's great. Salt Lake City women aren't that promiscuous either. There are a lot of married Mormon women there.

I think they are in bored marriages tbh lol.

Are these Mormon men who think that they'd be able to have lots of casual sex in Miami? I doubt that any random Mormon guy who lives in Utah could show up in Miami and game well. Most of those guys would be borderline incel in Miami. It's possible some might get a girlfriend, but it's doubtful most would able to seduce numerous women in a 6 month period.

I haven't felt that from most Utah people, though there are some examples of creepy Utah guys.

Guys get the worst impression of Miami. They think it is all bikini babes and pornstars jumping on their meat and then they come here, get rejected hard, and walk away defeated.

 

[SW15]

I think they are in bored marriages tbh lol

A lot of marriages are boring. It's not just marriages in Utah.

Guys get the worst impression of Miami. They think it is all bikini babes and pornstars jumping on their meat and then they come here, get rejected hard, and walk away defeated.

That's exactly what I would think Miami would be like. It's a tough city for seduction. Both Dallas and Miami are 2 of the more challenging larger city environments in the USA for seduction. Only top tier guys are getting the bikini babes, Insta/OnlyFans models, and porn stars. Most men will be invisible to the type of Miami women you describe.

Lots of men are seeking the poontang paradise and never find it.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

@SW15

Utah marriages happen young and a lot of those women miss out though bro.

Miami is leagues harder than Dallas. I have a couple of guys in my game chat that travel to Dallas and talk about how much easier it is than Miami. IMO, I cannot think of any other city that is pound for pound more competitive than Miami for game. Like if you do not bring it, someone is going to be macking on your girl.

The Silver Lining is that the guys I know who have stuck around in Miami have seriously transformed. Lot more dudes with 6 pack abs in my friend group lately, they realized they cannot compete regardless of money unless they look good.

 

[Redwood]

LOL. I’m from Houston was born here and yes, many very nice people it’s all the crazies moving in from everywhere else that have mucked things up.

They've been saying that since 2005,

But I'm also here and have mixed views on this city nowadays.