Rank these DJ behaviours

Wilko

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 13, 2010
Messages
595
Reaction score
133
See the random list of "DJ" behaviours below? I thought it would be interesting if each poster could sort them into four categories: Essential, Recommended, Strictly Optional, and Avoid At All Costs. This isn't so much what you think the perfect DJ would choose to do, but your own personal priorities and preferences.

Financial self-sufficiency
Six-figure salary
Self-employment/Entrepreneurship
Undergraduate Degree
Post Graduate Qualifications
Fame/local celebrity
C&F
No contact
Two strikes
Online dating
Speed dating
Cold approaches
Day game
Social circle game
Workplace relationships
Facebooking
Club game/Night game
Salsa/Latin/Ballroom dancing
Chick friendly exercise classes, i.e. yoga
Peacocking
A 250lb bench and single digit body fat
Maintaining a "healthy" BMI
Marriage
Cohabitation
Children
No marriage
No children
No mortgage
Home ownership
An expensive, hot ride
No debt
Monogamy
Wh0ring
Spinning plates

Sh!t, that's probably more than enough for now. There's some "small" techniques in there, and some "bigger" life choices aswell. Most have their obvious counterparts listed, but if I've missed something you think should be in there, put it in your sorted list and bold it. I'll chime in later with my own preferences.
 
Last edited:

backbreaker

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 24, 2002
Messages
11,573
Reaction score
572
Location
monrovia, CA
essential

Financial self-sufficiency
No contact
Day game
Cold approaches
Maintaining a "healthy" BMI
No debt


Recommended

Two strikes
A 250lb bench and single digit body fat
Spinning plates
Wh0ring
Monogamy
Marriage
Children
No marriage
No children
Monogamy



Strictly Optional

Six-figure salary
Self-employment/Entrepreneurship
Undergraduate Degree
Post Graduate Qualifications
Fame/local celebrity
C&F
Online dating
Speed dating
Salsa/Latin/Ballroom dancing
Chick friendly exercise classes, i.e. yoga
Peacockingee1
Club game/Night game


Avoid at all costs

No mortgage
Home ownership
An expensive, hot ride
Social circle game
Workplace relationships
Facebooking
Cohabitation
 

bmp2cpm

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Oct 24, 2009
Messages
425
Reaction score
503
Location
PA
1) Spinning plates.

Everything else is just gravy.
 

Colossus

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 22, 2005
Messages
3,505
Reaction score
547
ESSENTIAL:

Financial self-sufficiency
Maintaining a "healthy" BMI
Spinning plates
No contact (When necessary)
One strike rule (Determine your strikes)
Social circle game (always valuable)
Emotional health (I add this because I think it's ridiculous to focus on every other aspect of your life and walk around full of baggage)
Regular hobbies
Broad experiences with women (more important than anything you'll ever read)

RECOMMENDED:

Undergraduate Degree
Post Graduate Qualifications
Online dating
Cold approaches
Day game
A 250lb bench and single digit body fat
Home ownership
No debt


All the rest is personal preference.
 

Wilko

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 13, 2010
Messages
595
Reaction score
133
ESSENTIAL
Financial self-sufficiency
Maintaining a "healthy" BMI
Mental and emotional health (thanks Colossus)
Two strikes/Prize mentality that stems from genuine self-worth (earned)
No contact
No marriage
No debt

RECOMMENDED
C&F
Online dating
No children
No mortgage
Spinning plates

STRICTLY OPTIONAL
Six-figure salary
Self-employment/Entrepreneurship
Undergraduate Degree
Post Graduate Qualifications
Fame/local celebrity
Speed dating
Cold approaches
Day game
Club game/Night game
A 250lb bench and single digit body fat
Home ownership
An expensive, hot ride (by which I mean a car, that may not have been obvious at first?)
Monogamy
Wh0ring (just to be clear, I didn't mean man-whoring, I mean hiring some pvssy).

AVOID AT ALL COSTS
Social circle game
Workplace relationships
Facebooking
Salsa/Latin/Ballroom dancing
Chick friendly exercise classes, i.e. yoga
Peacocking
Marriage
Cohabitation
Children

I know there are only a few replies so far, but I'm really digging this thread. Key differences with my own rankings are the very low priority I afford marriage and children, any activities that you do just to be around women, and anything with high potential for blowback. Risk/reward, cost/benefit, you get the idea.
 
Last edited:

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

muscleman

Master Don Juan
Joined
May 1, 2007
Messages
1,095
Reaction score
49
You're not going to get a lot of consensus here if that's what you're looking for. For example, some of the stuff BB listed as 'strictly optional' I would list as essential, and some things as 'avoid at all costs' as 'optional'. Everyone has their own style of game, even betas.

In the quest to become a better man, you have 5 primary categories:

-wealth
-status
-fame
-looks
-game

Excelling in 1 won't get you far.
Excel in 2 and you start getting laid regularly.
Excel in 3 or more and you have more pvssy than you know what to do with.

So pick and choose.
 

Wilko

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 13, 2010
Messages
595
Reaction score
133
Consensus? Pffft! Not likely around here - and I wouldn't have it any other way:) It's really just a way to start some talking points without getting all flamey. So far so good. Hopefully it draws out some more gold like this:

muscleman said:
In the quest to become a better man, you have 5 primary categories:

-wealth
-status
-fame
-looks
-game

Excelling in 1 won't get you far.
Excel in 2 and you start getting laid regularly.
Excel in 3 or more and you have more pvssy than you know what to do with.
Edit: Just looking at that "action plan" of yours again. There's nothing untrue about it, but I think it makes the Game look much harder than it really is for most of who are playing it. I don't think the average reformed AFC looking for a modest amount of success with women needs to be too concerned with excelling at wealth, status, or fame. Of course, we're not banging supermodels either...:)
 

muscleman

Master Don Juan
Joined
May 1, 2007
Messages
1,095
Reaction score
49
Wilko said:
Edit: Just looking at that "action plan" of yours again. There's nothing untrue about it, but I think it makes the Game look much harder than it really is for most of who are playing it. I don't think the average reformed AFC looking for a modest amount of success with women needs to be too concerned with excelling at wealth, status, or fame. Of course, we're not banging supermodels either...:)
It just depends on what level you want to play the game. It's interesting because one of the most popular articles on my site is how becoming Alpha is like an MMO. See, you can play at level 1 or 10 or 100, but higher levels have higher challenges (with exponentially higher rewards).

So yea you don't need much just to get your d!ck wet with a 3/10. But want to score 8/10s regularly? Gotta put in work. And not just the same things over and over, but progressively getting better so your job gets easier.
 

Wilko

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 13, 2010
Messages
595
Reaction score
133
Oh snap! That's your blog. Despite the now incredibly obvious link in your signature block, I'd never actually connected it with anyone here at SS. Yes, duh indeed.

I was thinking about it over lunch and another interesting angle on this ranking idea would be a post on the most "cost effective" techniques/behaviors (best bang for buck). As distinct from get ripped, get famous, get wealthy. Something like "the lazy man's guide to seduction". I'm using cost as a catch-all term for time, money and energy in this context.

Funnily enough, I very nearly used the term "levelling up" when I originally commented on your post.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

Bible_Belt

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 27, 2005
Messages
17,104
Reaction score
5,735
Age
48
Location
midwestern cow field 40
Slickster said:
You forgot THE most essential DJ trait - self respect.
I was about to point out that all of the original list is external, but you beat me to it. You can have any set of traits and still be a miserable AFC on the inside.
 

Rave18

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 14, 2012
Messages
349
Reaction score
22
Essential

Financial self-sufficiency
Undergraduate Degree
Post Graduate Qualifications
Home ownership
Maintaining a "healthy" BMI

Recommended

Self-employment/Entrepreneurship
A 250lb bench and single digit body fat

-
This is President Abraham Lincoln, speaking to John M. Thayer, a brigadier from General Ulysses S. Grant's army, about the complaints about General Grant's drinking:

"Delegation after delegation has called on me with the same request, 'Recall Grant from command,' as the members of the delegations were not willing that their sons and brothers should be under the control of an intemperate leader. I could not think of relieving him, and these demands became very vexatious. I therefore hit upon this plan to stop them.
"One day a delegation headed by a distinguished doctor of divinity from New York, called on me and made the familiar complaint and protest against Grant being retained in his command. After the clergyman had concluded his remarks, I asked if any others desired to add anything to what had already been said. They replied that they did not. Then looking as serious as I could, I said:
"'Doctor, can you tell me where General Grant gets his liquor?'"
"'The doctor seemed quite nonplussed, but replied that he could not. I then said to him:
"'I am very sorry, for if you could tell me I would direct the Chief Quartermaster of the army to lay in a large stock of the same kind of liquor, and would also direct him to furnish a supply to some of my other generals who have never yet won a victory.'"
Lincoln handed Thayer a friendly slap on the leg, lay back in his chair, had a laugh, and resumed:
"What I want and what the people want is Generals who will fight battles and win victories. Grant has done this and I propose to stand by him. I permitted this incident to get into print, and I have been troubled no more with delegations protesting against Grant. Somehow or other I have always felt a leaning toward Grant. Ever since he sent that message to Buckner, 'No terms but unconditional surrender,' I have felt that he was a man I could tie to, though I have never seen him."
The secretaries, Nicolay and Hay, noted that when overzealous people had accused Grant of intemperance, Lincoln's reply was, "If I knew what brand of whiskey he drinks I would send a barrel or so to some other generals."
Abraham Lincoln, The War Years, Carl Sandburg, Volume II, pages 119-120.

http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-us_stupid_drunks.html
-
Monogamy

Strictly Optional

Six-figure salary
No debt
Fame/local celebrity
Peacocking
 

Scaramouche

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 27, 2008
Messages
4,064
Reaction score
1,185
Age
80
Location
Australia
Dear Wilko,
Few people have met a true Don Juan,whether such a life style is practical in this Day and age is a good question....On the Manosphere Roosh and Expat come very close....A fundamentalist would say,Don Juan was never interested in maintaining a relationship....At most each encounter had a half life of a couple of weeks....Those of us who spin Plates consider this the Dons style,but I think were he alive today he might consider such a life style,serial monogamy in multiple simultaneous realities....The Dons only real interest was in the thrill of the chase,in cutting notches on his Bed Post,enjoying that post conquest ego buzz and moving on.
To gain an insight into the would be Lotharios modus operandi,it is best to divide each operation into four distinct stages.....Identification,extraction,seduction and disposal....Quite similar in its stages to a big Company obtaining a Contract....So examining each.
Identification:Our would be Don,must have a thorough grounding in Body Language,in the subtle nuances of dress,behaviour and speech that display the vulnerabilities of the target,here timing is of the essence,we are all subjects of our Bodies Bio Rhythms.......The ebb and flow of a young Womans Hormones and therefore moods, are regulated by the Moon,what is acceptable even desirable one day will be frowned upon the next.
Extrication:As soon as practicable the victim must be isolated and drawn into your web....Pubs and bars are pretty useless,unless your Pad is close by,without that,it is very difficult to maintain momentum,she will be full of enthusiasm that night,as well as Gin and Beer LOL,in the morning that old school teacher mind will be ringing false alarms,and she will turn flaky...An outside barbecue at a private home,is the sort of environment where the Don can strike...
Seduction:That's the easy bit,practice on a variety of bra straps,knowledge of the Female anatomy,some faculty with the art of massage and the deed is done.
Disposal:Here is where most DJ's lose it...Blame it on insecurity,or Oxy-Tocin build up,the average bloke just wants to hang on to a good thing,often at considerable cost and little long term benefit....Your true Don just keeps growing and moving on,for this the greatest characteristics are a Machiavellian disdain for other peoples feelings,a complete lack of commitment,compassion,or pity...An utter lack or even an understanding of moral scruples,its just pump and dump...Do any of you guys here, have what it takes?
 
Top