QUESTION: Why commit 100%?

[PlayHer Man]

I spend a lot of time here pushing my point of view on women and relationships. I'm interested in hearing from those who don't agree with me. I want to see their reasoning.

I have two main questions:

1. Why should any man commit 100% to ONE woman and not spin plates in 2013?

2. How does a man benefit LONG-TERM from forming a deep faggish "bond" with a woman in 2013?

I say 2013 because I'm acknowledging that such behavior might have made sense at certain points in history. But how does it make sense today?

NOTE: Spinning plates doesn't just mean dating and f*cking multiple women.. it also means being open and WILLING to do it when given the opportunity.. regardless of your relationship status.

 

[fuko2007]

1. I dont think any man should commit 100% to a woman this day in age. Its not like it was years ago when women looked for a man to marry and were faithfull. Society has changed views since then and its the norm now for women to be able to do what they want i.e. go sleep with who they want. It seems guys are stuck in the old age of relationships and women are moveing into a whole new light. Thats why you see all these posts about " how could she be so cold?" and " we dated for three years and she just dumped me like that". Its not going to get any better unless we change with it to.

2. The only benefit i see from this in my book is SEX. The only other thing that comes from an LTR is hurt when she dumps yo a** and look back to answer 1 to see why i view it in that light.

 

[HumbleNinja]

I spend a lot of time here pushing my point of view on women and relationships. I'm interested in hearing from those who don't agree with me. I want to see their reasoning.

I have two main questions:

1. Why should any man commit 100% to ONE woman and not spin plates in 2013?

2. How does a man benefit LONG-TERM from forming a deep faggish "bond" with a woman in 2013?

I say 2013 because I'm acknowledging that such behavior might have made sense at certain points in history. But how does it make sense today?

NOTE: Spinning plates doesn't just mean dating and f*cking multiple women.. it also means being open and WILLING to do it when given the opportunity.. regardless of your relationship status.

Most dudes don't have time to put in the work to get another chick hooked by trying to fvck them while in a relationship especially if they have more important things to do in life.

Chicks are not like playing with a video game controller where you make them do what you want let alone use a few controllers at once.

Too much drama, as well as others getting involved in the situation (possibly either or both chicks friends, family)

No one can have a normal relationship, expect chicks families or friends to never be involved, expect to control them with sex etc. It's too time consuming when there's other things to do more important.

If one chick fvcks up bad..You drop her. You chouldn't need plates to determine your worth to chicks or have anything to prove.

Though you should meet new chicks and expand your social circle even if in a relationship so if the time comes in the future after one relationship is done you might have another.

Men and women who actually are going somewhere in life have much more important things to do in life than sleep with everyone or feel some need to have as many options as they can while working to keep them around.

Friends come and go. So do chicks. It doesn't mean you need to ALWAYS be on the move to HAVE to have new friends and chicks as everyone eventually goes their own ways, has families, things to do etc. You should too. It's not "giving up" it's just life and growing up, moving foward and having your own besides "needing" to have chicks to appear in your own mind to "have a life".

Most people will have one main friend they always hang out with more than their other friends. You both "commit" to each other yet things happen and you get too busy and you go hang out with other people. You can't continually go through life having some hanging out with multiple friends as if no one else has nothing going on for them but time to see you. Same with chicks. It's less nonsense than running around, wasting time, possible money, listening to them yap, get needy, and need to see you even for sex.

Most will willingly stay with one person and see how things go as juggling more people with their own thoughts, ideas, wants, needs etc. gets to be too much when you yourself have things going on besides chicks. That's life.

 

[Mr Wright]

Firstly, a relationship doesn't mean forever. Most people are aware that it is finite, but that does not mean it is pointless. Life is finite but that does not mean we should just end it now. Also I can safely say I had a lot better sex in a relationship that out of it, the emotions intensify it.

Not everyone has the same mindset as yourself for a reason. It doesn't make them a faggot, it just makes them different to yourself. Some guys just don't want the hassle, if you work a job with long hours or whatever, you probably don't have the time to chasing tail. A long term relationship where you get your evening meals cooked and your d!ck sucked once a week might be enough for some. Some guys are just not that way inclined, just like how some guys aren't that into sports, I fvcking love sports but appreciate why others may not. It's called empathy, it's a human emotion. Different people bring different qualities and attributes to the table. Some guys may receive benefits in other ways, like families who push for marriage may provide other benefits both social and financial. The desire to be accepted by your family and receive benefits is usually stronger than the desire to shag a load of birds. Sometimes being a good boy can reap rewards from mummy and daddy. And some guys just really like a particular girl, may be good friends with her too, as long as you realise it can be taken away at any moment and dont cry about how the world hates you when it does, you are mature enough to be in a relationship.


Personally I don't do relationships any more because I like having variety and cannot see the point aged 21 but I can definitely understand why some guys go for it. But variety can get boring, guys who fvck hundreds of women end up in relationships because it's draining and boring.

It's also in our biology to occasionally raise a kid just to make sure that it can actually survive infancy. Biology will always be relevant.

 

[Who Dares Win]

As a general rule I agree about not getting married for all the reason we all talk about in this forum, from the fact you dont get any more than before to the fact that she legally owns your balls.

Regarding long terms and committment however I believe that given the right circumstances there is nothing wrong with that, in my case Im currently in a relationship with a girl which virtually doesnt p1ss me off (except telling me Im an ******* who dont care about her except sex).

She never flirted with any other guy and openly pushed away those who tried, never said no when asked sexual performances after done for the first time, cooks for me,clean my place when she comes and doesnt annoy me when Im sleeping after work and she accept me as the leader and she openly said that.
The only time she complains about is if I dont open her door but go first myself but its only for few seconds or some old school stuff like that.

More or the less you get what I mean, in this case Im honest and loyal to her not only because I find it right given what she does to me but also because as a man I should keep my word.
I had girls asking me out in these last week and despite a couple of them are exactly the type of b1tches I like, I passed, I even stopped touching asses of the girls at work despite they all allow me to.

Of course if she was the average annoying b1tch which dance dirty with other guys, p1ss me off or is glued to her phone I would not even consider to be a good man to her.
It all depends on the conditions of the relationship in terms of committment and the conditions of the law in term of marriage or cohabitation.

 

[BraddH]

Because it simply gets boring.

 

[PlayHer Man]

As a general rule I agree about not getting married for all the reason we all talk about in this forum, from the fact you dont get any more than before to the fact that she legally owns your balls.

Regarding long terms and committment however I believe that given the right circumstances there is nothing wrong with that, in my case Im currently in a relationship with a girl which virtually doesnt p1ss me off (except telling me Im an ******* who dont care about her except sex).

She never flirted with any other guy and openly pushed away those who tried, never said no when asked sexual performances after done for the first time, cooks for me,clean my place when she comes and doesnt annoy me when Im sleeping after work and she accept me as the leader and she openly said that.
The only time she complains about is if I dont open her door but go first myself but its only for few seconds or some old school stuff like that.

More or the less you get what I mean, in this case Im honest and loyal to her not only because I find it right given what she does to me but also because as a man I should keep my word.
I had girls asking me out in these last week and despite a couple of them are exactly the type of b1tches I like, I passed, I even stopped touching asses of the girls at work despite they all allow me to.

Of course if she was the average annoying b1tch which dance dirty with other guys, p1ss me off or is glued to her phone I would not even consider to be a good man to her.
It all depends on the conditions of the relationship in terms of committment and the conditions of the law in term of marriage or cohabitation.

Decent points.

So since she is your only source of sex.. what would you do if she started cutting off sex? Will you just jerk off or f*ck another chick?

Women love a captive man but they don't respect one. The deeper your loyalty becomes the more shallow her respect for you will become. Does she share the same desire to "keep her word" as you?

I've noticed most "relationship men" who aren't totally beta will basically "give as good as they get". In other words... they will be nice as long as the woman is.

I completely understand why men do this. I will explain why I don't --> Its still a passive way of living because you are basing your behavior on HER behavior. You are letting her lead. You are "behaving" to avoid drama and other problems. You are not rocking the boat.. you are waiting for her to rock it first.. then reacting. I prefer doing whatever I want and allowing her to take it or leave it (with occasional compromises here and there).

In theory it makes perfect sense to avoid rocking the boat and destroying a "good thing". But in relationships this always leads to "sh!t tests" as the woman gets bored with your "good behavior".

I think a man should always flirt with women he finds attractive. Case closed. BUT I see your reasoning.

 

[thatfeel]

God this thread would be perfect for NewJack.

 

[Bokanovsky]

The only reason to "commit 100%" is if you want to have a family and kids. This is as true today as it was 1,000 years ago. Kids need a stable environment to grow up in, and if you decide to be a family man, there are certain sacrifices that you'll have to make as far as your personal freedom is concerned. If you don't want kids, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to commit to one woman. A marriage without kids is like a car without wheels...a totally useless contrivance.

 

[The Simple Man]

I spend a lot of time here pushing my point of view on women and relationships. I'm interested in hearing from those who don't agree with me. I want to see their reasoning.

I have two main questions:

1. Why should any man commit 100% to ONE woman and not spin plates in 2013?

2. How does a man benefit LONG-TERM from forming a deep faggish "bond" with a woman in 2013?

I say 2013 because I'm acknowledging that such behavior might have made sense at certain points in history. But how does it make sense today?

NOTE: Spinning plates doesn't just mean dating and f*cking multiple women.. it also means being open and WILLING to do it when given the opportunity.. regardless of your relationship status.

Because we are approaching the end of 2013 -> the weather gets cold -> lazy to go out -> find a b!tch to fvck through the winter -> dump her @ss in 2014.

 

[TheODB]

I spend a lot of time here pushing my point of view on women and relationships. I'm interested in hearing from those who don't agree with me. I want to see their reasoning.

I have two main questions:

1. Why should any man commit 100% to ONE woman and not spin plates in 2013?

2. How does a man benefit LONG-TERM from forming a deep faggish "bond" with a woman in 2013?

I say 2013 because I'm acknowledging that such behavior might have made sense at certain points in history. But how does it make sense today?

NOTE: Spinning plates doesn't just mean dating and f*cking multiple women.. it also means being open and WILLING to do it when given the opportunity.. regardless of your relationship status.

I'm all about having the mentality of a DJ, and I tend to push that viewpoint whenever people come here asking a question clearly showing that their perspective on relationships has been whitewashed by feminism/mainstream media/whatever the hell else. I fully support the idea of spinning plates when single, and I always stick up for people, both in life and on the internet, who have philosophical disagreements with LTRs and marriages.

At the same time, I've been in an exclusive relationship for three years and haven't strayed. I think the girl I'm with is worth the commitment (obviously), but I'm not really afraid to leave should the need for that ever come. It wouldn't be easy to do from a logistical perspective because our lives are pretty closely intertwined right now, but I'd still do it if I felt our time was over or if she crossed any forbidden boundaries.

If you're asking why a guy like me doesn't "spin plates" (i.e. cheat), it's simple. I'm a man of my word, I follow through on my commitments, and I don't particularly care if some (or even most) women do not agree. If I get to a point in my relationship where I really, really want to start banging other chicks, I'd take a good hard look at the relationship and most likely put an end to it. But again, when single, I'm a huge supporter of casual sex, and I don't look at relationships and marriages as more valid ways of associating with people.

 

[Jariel]

I spend a lot of time here pushing my point of view on women and relationships. I'm interested in hearing from those who don't agree with me. I want to see their reasoning.

I'll dispute this. The first reason is that you're simply expressing a personal opinion. If you don't see any benefits of a relationship, that's cool and you will clearly enjoy your life more by playing the field.

But this doesn't make it fact or even advice. And referring to guys who want relationships as faggots is a very childish and passive aggressive persuasion tactic.

1. Why should any man commit 100% to ONE woman and not spin plates in 2013?

Given time and the right woman, she can become somebody you simply enjoy being with. Her company is fun, you share private jokes, have entertaining conversations, visit places together and get to know each other intimately. You also get regular sex and as you get comfortable with each other, you learn how to satisfy each other, try new things and it becomes so much more fun than any one night stand.

And of course, there's the whole being in love thing. Obviously not your thing, but those who get it, know exactly why it's worth pursuing.

It's like having a best friend who you can enjoy life with and fvck on a regular basis.

2. How does a man benefit LONG-TERM from forming a deep faggish "bond" with a woman in 2013?

The same way you bond with friends, family or anyone you care about. You find a human being who brings so much pleasure and positivity into your life and you decide you want to continue to experience that forever.

And many men want to raise kids and a family. Better to do that as a couple than impregnating some randomer, at least in my opinion.

So that's my input.

I get it that you don't agree and you think all women are evil and unfaithful etc etc, but I only have to look on my Facebook friends list and I see lots of my friends in long term relationships, married, kids...and you know what...

IT MAKES THEM HAPPY!

Is there any other reason you need?

This is what the men on this forum need to wake up and understand. Growing balls and being a DJ/Alpha isn't about how many women you can bang or how macho you can act. It's about pursuing what you want in life and what makes you happy.

If playing the field makes you happy, then go for it. If a relationship makes you happy, then do what it takes to make it a good one.

We can all give advice and try to help guys on this forum overcome their troubles and flaws, but there's nobody here who can tell another man what his desires should be.

 

[bukowski_merit]

1. Why should any man commit 100% to ONE woman and not spin plates in 2013?

I don't think I'd give anyone 100% of me. 80%? Maybe... She'd have to be exceptional and completely in love with me to the point it borders unhealthy.

There's only one woman I dated who I felt this way about. She treated me like a king. It was 2 years of a woman who thought everything I said was amazing and/or funny. No arguements. Very little drama... And Lots of wild sex. Almost every night was the same - she'd come over - we'd kill a bottle of wine while I made her laugh - then we'd fvck for hours.

And well... (some guys might, but) I never got tired of that... And I treated her very good in return...

That relationship ended abruptly when she stopped acting like the girl I wanted to date. Just like that... And I walked away with no thought of returning. And have been single since.

2. How does a man benefit LONG-TERM from forming a deep faggish "bond" with a woman in 2013?

Unfortunately, the need to bond is in our DNA. It's stronger in a woman, but it's not completely "faggish" for a man to desire good companionship, consistency, or comfort (neither are things most women can provide anymore).

I love a lot of that stuff that may be considered soft. Laying in bed all day with a woman, snuggling, watching tv a little (inbetween the fvcking), fvcking, her fingernails softly running along my skin, my arms wrapped around her, stupid kisses everywhere... Her purring like a kitten...

That's powerful stuff if you let it happen.



Yes, it may be fleeting - but, it feels good when it's happening. There's all kinds of chemicals your body is releasing during these types of days; many of them anti-depressants; many of them on par with the high of the best drugs....

If i had my choice of

• a) 7 days a week of a new girl nightly - who would come over and fvck, leave as soon as I was done, and never hear from again.... Or
• b) 1 woman for an unknown amount of time who I actually enjoy being around, and who doesn't want to leave my side or bed....

I'd choose b).... with ease....

but would still be ready to jump back on the a) bandwagon if b) acted up....



Note: This is coming from a guy who hasn't had a real relationship since late 08... and has fvcked buckets of random women since then (at least 80; probably 100+).

I can honestly say - this isn't my choice; it's the society we live in.

 

[SamTheHobit]

Only time I'll truly commit is with a virgin.

Otherwise why the fvk would I want a used up slvt?

Doesn't make sense and it's gross.

 

[JohnChops]

Only time I'll truly commit is with a virgin.

Otherwise why the fvk would I want a used up slvt?

Doesn't make sense and it's gross.

SAM this reminds me I found a 21 year old virgin. One of my.plates friends as soon as she said "21 and virgin" I'm like oh snap look one for Sam the hobbit!

 

[Albatross953]

I can think of one reason to be in a relationship...last week I woke up and couldn't remember which plate I was sleeping next to...started to panic there a little bit...lol

 

[Who Dares Win]

Decent points.

So since she is your only source of sex.. what would you do if she started cutting off sex? Will you just jerk off or f*ck another chick?

Right now this problem does not exists, as I said once she did her first hj or bj to me then she didnt deny any time I asked wheter was morning or night, it was hard at the beginning cause of her conservative family backround but right now there are no denied requests.
If the problem will exist I'll deal with that, but as I said its me running the relationship so there are no such things as those which happen when its the woman in charge.

Women love a captive man but they don't respect one. The deeper your loyalty becomes the more shallow her respect for you will become. Does she share the same desire to "keep her word" as you?

I saw plenty of guys writing her on fb or trying to flirt with her in the club and she pushed them all away in that same moment, sometime she even came with her phone and told me to answer some guy which was annoying her, she had no problem to update her status on fb for everyone to know.

I've noticed most "relationship men" who aren't totally beta will basically "give as good as they get". In other words... they will be nice as long as the woman is.

Cant deny that its true, after all we weight what we get before we give in any relation.

I completely understand why men do this. I will explain why I don't --> Its still a passive way of living because you are basing your behavior on HER behavior. You are letting her lead. You are "behaving" to avoid drama and other problems. You are not rocking the boat.. you are waiting for her to rock it first.. then reacting. I prefer doing whatever I want and allowing her to take it or leave it (with occasional compromises here and there).

I disagree its not that you give according to what she gives, in my case is that I demand certain things and I offer others in return, its her following my line and not the other way around, just like the first weeks of dating I made it clear that I'm the man and she is the woman with all what it means.

In theory it makes perfect sense to avoid rocking the boat and destroying a "good thing". But in relationships this always leads to "sh!t tests" as the woman gets bored with your "good behavior".

I think women get bored when you slowly cease power to her,many men are too lazy to decide what to do so they simply ask her what she wants, this is what make them smell weakness and open the way to problems or sh1t tests.
You can let her decide something but it must come from a position of power not because you hope to avoid the drama or to get something more from her (if you dont get already what you want,you're not gonna get it anyway, that means that the relationship is broken to begin with).

I think a man should always flirt with women he finds attractive. Case closed. BUT I see your reasoning.

Its up to you, honestly Im fine in having women trying to flirt with me cause it confirms me that I have choices but at the same time since Im a man of my word I ignore such requests.

I would rather say that a man must still keep himself in shape and position to easily get other girls if necessary, he should do the setup but not execute.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Firstly, a relationship doesn't mean forever.

Not everyone has the same mindset as yourself for a reason. It doesn't make them a faggot, it just makes them different to yourself. Some guys just don't want the hassle, if you work a job with long hours or whatever, you probably don't have the time to chasing tail. A long term relationship where you get your evening meals cooked and your d!ck sucked once a week might be enough for some. Some guys are just not that way inclined, just like how some guys aren't that into sports, I fvcking love sports but appreciate why others may not.

It's also in our biology to occasionally raise a kid just to make sure that it can actually survive infancy. Biology will always be relevant.

Being in a relationship does not make a man a faggot. Being afraid of losing a woman makes a man a RAGING faggot though.

Raising kids is no where in a man's biology. This is why men can reproduce until death (unlike women). Men are designed to spread their seed.

Of course men can raise kids as well as women can. But there is no biological "urge". Any urge you have comes from society programming.

Right now this problem does not exists, as I said once she did her first hj or bj to me then she didnt deny any time I asked wheter was morning or night, it was hard at the beginning cause of her conservative family backround but right now there are no denied requests.
If the problem will exist I'll deal with that, but as I said its me running the relationship so there are no such things as those which happen when its the woman in charge.


I saw plenty of guys writing her on fb or trying to flirt with her in the club and she pushed them all away in that same moment, sometime she even came with her phone and told me to answer some guy which was annoying her, she had no problem to update her status on fb for everyone to know.


Cant deny that its true, after all we weight what we get before we give in any relation.


I disagree its not that you give according to what she gives, in my case is that I demand certain things and I offer others in return, its her following my line and not the other way around, just like the first weeks of dating I made it clear that I'm the man and she is the woman with all what it means.


I think women get bored when you slowly cease power to her,many men are too lazy to decide what to do so they simply ask her what she wants, this is what make them smell weakness and open the way to problems or sh1t tests.

You can let her decide something but it must come from a position of power not because you hope to avoid the drama or to get something more from her (if you dont get already what you want,you're not gonna get it anyway, that means that the relationship is broken to begin with).


Its up to you, honestly Im fine in having women trying to flirt with me cause it confirms me that I have choices but at the same time since Im a man of my word I ignore such requests.

I would rather say that a man must still keep himself in shape and position to easily get other girls if necessary, he should do the setup but not execute.

Fair enough.

 

[thatfeel]

Being in a relationship does not make a man a faggot. Being afraid of losing a woman makes a man a RAGING faggot though.

That's not what you originally said though:

2. How does a man benefit LONG-TERM from forming a deep faggish "bond" with a woman in 2013?

inb4 "what I really meant was". Sorry but you should practice your passive aggressiveness.

 

[Dgwizdal]

That's not what you originally said though:



inb4 "what I really meant was". Sorry but you should practice your passive aggressiveness.

That feel when you realize that everyone who is giving/looking for girl advice on bodybuilding.com are complete AFC blue pillers compared sosuave.