Question for the Rich or Stylish amongst you

[BeTheChange]

Be fair though. The Rock vs Leonardo DiCaprio. Now let's see who cleans up. I agree with what you're saying though, being physically fit will certainly help, but give me a break though, no one is going to dedicate themselves so much to the point of actually looking like the Rock in terms of his physical capabilities.

One thing I disagree with the OP on is he is already stating that he is willing to throw serious money at this problem, to the point he's spending more than $10k to address the issue. If you search for my threads, you'll find one from a while back discussing the purchase of a couple new suits. I didn't buy them to pick up women though, but they aren't hurting anything either. However, if you think women can't discern the difference between cheap clothes/accessories and the more expensive stuff, well I've got news for you. It's practically in their genes. Just like damn near every guy will get an instant boner the moment even a semi-attractive woman with a double-D rack starts rubbing her tits on us, it's genetic. You start going around relying on expensive stuff to compensate for a majority of your game, two things are going to happen:

1) Your game will suffer to some extent because you're relying on 'things' to compensate. Women will come to you to socialize but you'll likely have trouble closing the deal.

2) The type of women you will attract will likely be gold diggers. That's fine if you just want a few plates, but if you're wanting something more serious, you are already screwing yourself over.

Suggest you read my post again.

It's not about "game". It's about spending the least amount of TIME and money to get what I want. An expensive watch holds its value and will last a lifetime. If there is even an ounce of peripheral benefit woman wise I'd take that over improving my "game" any day of the week because I would purchase the watch regardless.

You could use your argument to criticise any superficial benefit (gym body, money, clothes, shoes, etc) yet only an idiot would argue maximising these qualities would hurt your ability to attract women.

When I was 18 and built like an Ethiopian school boy, friends used to say the exact thing you're parroting when I decided to hit the gym. "Only superficial woman care about that sh*t". Three years later and I could walk into a club, grab a girl and hook up with her on the spot. It had nothing to do with "game" and everything to with being built like a Greek God. The girls were younger, drunker and more carefree. College days. Times have changed but I know which version of myself I'd rather be.

Now in the world I inhibit (high class bars, clubs, etc) I need a similar pull. When it comes to women I'm lazy (almost MGTOW esque) because honestly I spend too much of my time working to building an empire, to dedicate any significant portion of that 24 hour day chasing women.

I see nothing wrong with relying on external props if they reflect your value as a man and they make it easier to get what you want.

 

[fastlife]

Definitely not rich (yet), but I spent a year or so at 20 totally overhauling my image--and the last two years modifying my behavior and here's my shortlist:

1. Eye Contact: Keep your eyes straight ahead at eye level. Maintain eye contact. The world of female subcommunication takes place with the eyes and they light up when they see a man who moves in the same sphere. I get a freebie approach invite or two every night out just from eye contact--and I can usually tell when I'll hook up with a girl just based on eye contact.
2. Vocal Tonality: Project your voice. Be loud. Think of it like sonar--if a girl can over hear your conversation, it gives her a free in--she's already getting a glimpse into your personality and reacting emotionally before you even notice her. Combined with eye contact, you can see what girls are listening in on your convo and bring them in. Talk authoritatively & challengingly--downward tonality--like you're speaking down to a crowd from the mountains. If I'm out by myself, sometimes I'll just talk so loudly to myself that it feels to the groups around me that I'm a part of their conversation. Sounds hella weird but it works.
3. Body Language: Practice good posture--shoulders relaxed, chest out, take up space, walk in like you own the place, always be comfortable, move slowly. Women ping their environment--they pick up on these things.
4. Grooming & Fashion: How memorable is your appearance? Do you have any really noticeable qualities--distinct haircut/bear/look? A lot of girls I approach have seen me before, even if I never noticed them. Regulars remember my name. For fashion--Fit & Comfort >>>> Price & Style. For grooming, find something that's distinctive & low maintenance. Studied carelessness is big. I make an effort to show off as much of my body as possible--form fitting, low cut shirts, etc. Plenty of girls give me sh1t about it, but it's a good excuse for them to touch me or for me to sexualize. I.e., Girl: "Wow, could you show off anymore of your chest?" And I'll just start pulling my collar down lower or pretend like I'm doing a striptease.
   
5. Cologne: Again the idea is making the most communication with the least amount of effort. Find a cologne/deodorant/bodywash combo that complements your natural body odor--AND STICK TO IT. You want girls to anchor that smell to you--and reach is more important than subtlety for our purposes. I want girls to smell me even if they're a group or two over.
6. Location: You can live in a total dump, but if you're a five minute walk from the venue you'll have way more success than the guy who lives 20 minutes away. Have goodies back at the house--Wine, Pets, etc. are chick magnets. Blow, tree, etc., are also big for a vast percentage of girls, if that's your thing (I don't partake & not hugely into girls who do--but I know I've dropped dozens of easy lays by not having a J rolled up at the house).
7. Car: Doesn't mean sh1t. By the time a girl's walking back to it--and she's made that commitment--you could be in the biggest piece of sh1t beater & she'll rationalize it as being cool. (Ask me how I know).

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

Wasn't my experience at all, had a $100k car at 25 and while it did get a lot of attention most girls are aware of the gold digger image and it will most of the time work against you. Atleast here in my area and with the girls that I go for. Point is I think that a new Mustang GT will do you a lot better than a supercar will.

Really, I would've never thought that. You must've been doing well for yourself to own a r8.

 

[dk1990S111]

Really, I would've never thought that. You must've been doing well for yourself to own a r8.

Ya can't complain lol car is gone now and going to put the money towards my future. But ya like @fastlife said above, by the time they see the car it shouldn't and most likely wont make a difference. Don't get me wrong, it will attract the gold diggers for sure but I avoid them once I start getting that vibe, too much headache. I got the car for myself, was my dream car since it came out, but it is a blessing and a curse to have a car like that when it comes to women.