Question for the hot guys.

[AlmostThere!]

Do you notice a lot of eye contact and open body language from chicks in non-social situations? For example, walking around town, mall, Starbucks...

What I'm trying to get at is if you're really attractive, do women outside of bars, parties, social get togethers openly show interest.

 

[yuppaz]

I hate to answer, because it means I think myself hot...but have been complimented in the past and drooled at sometimes. Most of the times girls won't openly show interest but if you are being dominant and owning the room, you learn to notice squeamish behavior from girls that are physically attracted to you. They get tense around you and f*ck with their hair, or sometimes close off. One thing that has helped me personally by (maybe just in my own mind) being attractive is that if I try at all, or go in with high energy type game, they think something is wrong with me, if I'm more laid back and non-challant it seems to work much better. If you see the tension I'm talking about, try playing it somewhat indirect because they are nervous as hell, so if you can make them feel more comfortable, but not completely validated it can help u a lot.

 

[xdreamz]

haha same thing here i don't want to call myself hot cuz that sounds a little arrogant but i'm attractive, i have girls approach me at parties or whatever. chicks will find an excuse to get my number or give me theirs. they will be in my general area. on the streets girls will give me a smile or something (iono maybe that's normal).. i'd say most girls will try to make eye contact with me. if i'm around they might lean in a little bit, or they will brush up against me. if i talk they will definately be receptive.

 

[Julius_Seizeher]

Yes, if only you could see the world through my eyes...

They will stare, cavort with their girlfriends, look away when I catch them staring, start touching their face if I take a step towards them (I love to play that game)

 

[Trader]

I am NOT a hot guy but one of my good friends was, and I hung around him a lot

Yes he got major IOIs, such as looks in his direction.

In group settings, he would tend to garner a bit more attention from the girls, but he had to keep it up with his personality. Put it this way, he doesn't really need to approach girls - girls give him an *opportunity* - it's up to him to take advantage of it

For me - I have to be a bit more devious and *create* the opportunity with girls. But I would argue that once the opportunity is created, both the hot guy and the average looking guy are on about a level playing field - the looks factor tends to fade away

 

[AAAgent]

I am NOT a hot guy but one of my good friends was, and I hung around him a lot

Yes he got major IOIs, such as looks in his direction.

In group settings, he would tend to garner a bit more attention from the girls, but he had to keep it up with his personality. Put it this way, he doesn't really need to approach girls - girls give him an *opportunity* - it's up to him to take advantage of it

For me - I have to be a bit more devious and *create* the opportunity with girls. But I would argue that once the opportunity is created, both the hot guy and the average looking guy are on about a level playing field - the looks factor tends to fade away

Agreed. I'm pretty decent looking but i've had to compete with better looking guys, taller guys, bigger guys, etc. Looks just create more opportunities for yourself. That's why dressing nice, cleaning up, etc. just give you more chances of getting NOTICED.

Once you're noticed you can be brad pitt and have no game and the girl will run off to the guy that does have game.

 

[xdreamz]

i dunno man brad pitt is pretty famously good looking and will definately have an edge over some PUA greats. game is something you can acquire, looks are not (besides plastic surgery). looks have value.

i think it happens at a subconscious level... we tend to be really cool to the ones that look better than us, and the ones that look uglier we just chat them up because they make us feel better.

 

[AAAgent]

i dunno man brad pitt is pretty famously good looking and will definately have an edge over some PUA greats. game is something you can acquire, looks are not (besides plastic surgery). looks have value.

True brad pitt will have an edge of some pick up artist.

He's famous as well which gives him social proof.

But imagine brad pitt as a normal person up against an unknown pua. brad's looks will definately get him noticed while on the other hand the pua has to find a way to open women.

Brad doesn't need an opener since the women will come to him so once the pua opens him and brad technically would be on equal grounds. If brad has no game he loses.

obviously the real brad has his looks, social proof, sh!tload of money, which would blow alot of pua out of the water but theoretically speaking looks only give you an opportunity. if you can't capitalize on an opportunity, you still fail.

 

[Rhino22]

Do you think that these girls will maybe kind of avoid you too if they think you are hot? I have been told many times that I am quite attractive. My band members even call me the "hot" one lol. I have noticed that girls are kind of nervous around me...is this because I am very attractive to them? Even one time at a show I went to this hot girl came up to say something to my group of friends but really only spoke to them. Was she intimidated by me? I noticed another poster mentioned that they will get "closed off." Is this kind of like what this girl did?

On the other hand I have noticed now more recently a handful of girls that I believe are looking at me and then they look away when they realize they have been caught.

 

[909pua]

Do you notice a lot of eye contact and open body language from chicks in non-social situations? For example, walking around town, mall, Starbucks...

What I'm trying to get at is if you're really attractive, do women outside of bars, parties, social get togethers openly show interest.

I dont know with me, they just do eye contact, not once or twice, i catch them looking at me more than 3 times. A few will approach me and start talking. Usually if a girl is interested in you, especially if shes a hot one, she'll give you an initial IOI and is up to you to follow up on it. I notice alot of girls do this to me. If i don't do anything, they wont waste time. Some other guys have it easy, but for me, its like this with me most of the time. YOu have to do all the work at first until you get to home run.

 

[Darth]

Again, hate to post here because it sounds arrogant, but what I've noticed is that in comparison to less attractive guys, I get a lot of girls on the street looking at me for a split second and then pretending not to notice me, and then getting a good long look right before they pass.

Or they'll be walking down the street, and some will start furiously clawing at their hair like it's on fire.

Some will just look down, away, anywhere but at me.

And only occasionally, they will smile back at me.

In general, yeah, walking down the street I get IOI's from strangers.
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But the bottom line in talking to girls if you're attractive is this: you have to be "nice" at first to ease their nerves, and actively show interest. BUT, if you pick up on any kind of an ego or attitude on her part, then it's time to be nonchalant/cool/indifferent...in other words, playing the disinterest game.

Seriously. If you see that she is nervous just being in your presence (talking really fast, saying, "I feel so stupid right now," etc.), then no jokes at her expense, until she knows you better. "****y and funny" for an attractive guy doesn't work. "Kind and manly" would be a better guideline.

UNLESS, again, for some reason she thinks she's better than you.

 

[Poonani Maker]

Good advice, Darth. It helped me. I think Julius Seizeher said he is a Marine, so duh, chicks will do a double-take on a trial by fire looking dude. I'm sculpted like a Marine, but never was one. My father Is and raised me as one: harsh yelling language, treated me like sh!t, beat me up as early as 9 years old.

If you look like you've been through the school of hard knocks, because you HAVE, then most women will do a double-take.

However, as an attractive male, I'll go places and women are just so much into THEMSELVES that none of them notice, but there always seems to be at least One I catch going, "ooooh." I see them out of my periphery or directly, to where she can't help herself but to oooh and awww, smile, look down, laugh or giggle, as if I give a sh!t about them.

Some will touch me on the chest or arm just having met them. Let me preface this with, this practically ONLY happens after I've been working my ass off, running, lifting, whatever. The point is, my testosterone levels are churning full force, and I'm feeling quite ballsy, and of course, NO MB.

 

[old married dude]

Overall I wouldn't say I'm hot, but probably better looking than 90% of guys my own age since I look younger, dress well, and am in very good shape.

I notice that if a girl is attracted to me, they tend to want to be close. Sometimes they will get so close that I feel they invade my personal space.

 

[Darth]

I notice that if a girl is attracted to me, they tend to want to be close. Sometimes they will get so close that I feel they invade my personal space.

That's true as well. But then when you look at them, then they pretend to ignore you. I don't get it.

 

[CarlitosWay]

Do you notice a lot of eye contact and open body language from chicks in non-social situations? For example, walking around town, mall, Starbucks...

What I'm trying to get at is if you're really attractive, do women outside of bars, parties, social get togethers openly show interest.

Yes and yes. Most of the time they are very subtle (quick glances going up and down your body).

I'm not the hottest guy, but I've been told I'm handsome,have that sexy latino look blah blah blah...I've walked out of say best buy with girls screaming something like "DAMN!"

I hate getting called a "pretty boy" by chics. I usually take offense and set em straight haha.

 

[NSUballer]

The other night I was at this bar in town. Everyone was out bc it was the last day of finals and you know how college kids do.

Anyway, back to the topic.

I was at the bar and one time i raised my arm to stretch and this pretty hot 18-19 girl about ten feet away started to waive but quickly realized I wasnt waiving, making her feel awkward and slightly embarassed.

Thats just one example. Everywhere I go people make eye contact or at the very least give a look or two. And I mean everyone. Men, women, everyone. I get the most obvious looks from older women and teenage girls. the girls in between wont want to look too hard but sometimes I'll catch 'em.

It used to weird me out that people would always look at me, I didnt know why they were. I didnt think I was all that much to look at.

I figured it out though. When I got to college I wasnt very confident in myself and especially my looks. Two years ago is when I really got comfortable in my own skin and started acting like a man.

It didnt hurt that I ran and lifted weights religiously since 9th grade and was on the football team in college, making me alot more physically imposing than the average college guy.

 

[NSUballer]

And about the not wanting to arrogant.

thats true to a point. You dont want to be OVERLY arrogant, but some arrogance is VERY attractive to women.

Example.

The other day, this girl I been talking to for ab 2 months needed me to get her an adderall for work, she works nights as a nurse.

Well I told her I would bring it to her but decided not to. I tell her to come by my apt. She comes and sends me a text saying come down stairs. I immediately text back for her to come up stairs. She resists at first saying shes running late or whatever. She ends up coming up.

As I'm talking to her when she came up she says outta no where "Nobody has ever told me that before."

I say "told you what?"

"No guy has ever told me anything like that before. "

Meaning no guy has ever stood up to her and demand her respect in an arrogant but respectful, manner.

She called me twice this morning when she got home from work. I'm assuming for some you know what. I didnt answer....

 

[909pua]

Overall I wouldn't say I'm hot, but probably better looking than 90% of guys my own age since I look younger, dress well, and am in very good shape.

I notice that if a girl is attracted to me, they tend to want to be close. Sometimes they will get so close that I feel they invade my personal space.

Amen to this. This happens everywhere I go, especially in crowded places, especially if you are just minding your own business.

 

[edger]

Do you notice a lot of eye contact and open body language from chicks in non-social situations? For example, walking around town, mall, Starbucks...

What I'm trying to get at is if you're really attractive, do women outside of bars, parties, social get togethers openly show interest.

No. With the greater majority of attractive women, no. Although lately for the past 6 months or so, for some God only knows why reason, I've been getting more vibes(IOI's) from more attractive women than usual. And I'm not doing anything differently. I still look the same, dress the same, act the same, move the same, etc., etc. Strange.

 

[edger]

But then when you look at them, then they pretend to ignore you. I don't get it.

That's either one of two reasons: She's either an attention wh*re, or like Tazman suggests, they are intimidated. The game is a b*tch. I realized in recent years, it's just much, much less of a headache to invest your time and money wisely with escorts or fly to Amsterdam and invest in their high-end smoking hot prostitutes, or as they are better known, "kamer girls". And you know, honestly, I'm much happier this way, doing what I do, rather than endlessly waiting for a hot woman to be receptive. Because in the end, I win, I GET WHAT I WANT, WHERE I WANT, WHEN I WANT.