Quantum computing creates a world of possibilities but also one where nothing is secure.

[BackInTheGame78]

Quantum computers will be able solve problems in minutes that would take the fastest supercomputers today millions of years.

That opens up a world of possibilities where technology will likely advance faster than ever before.

It will also open up a world where nothing will be secure because all current security protocols will be able to be cracked within mere seconds even by the most rudimentary methods like Brute Force attacks.

Banks, financial institutions and government agencies will be targeted immediately and it could cause serious issues and upheaval...

About to enter a technological era that has yet to ever be seen on earth at the same time as entering an era that might be the most dangerous one when we look at the effects of AI along with Quantum Computers could pose if they are used for nefarious purposes.

Quantum computers could solve problems in minutes that would take today's supercomputers millions of years

Quantum computers could give us answers to impossible problems in physics, chemistry, engineering and medicine.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[SargeMaximus]

Maybe this makes living with hard assets instead of digital ones better?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Maybe this makes living with hard assets instead of digital ones better?

And when someone robs your house or your house catches on fire then what?

 

[SargeMaximus]

And when someone robs your house or your house catches on fire then what?

Well sure you can fear monger any scenario

 

[jaygreenb]

Well sure you can fear monger any scenario

You can say the same thing about living in a cabin in the woods with precious metals. There has always been a boogeyman in the future that was supposed to bring everything down but the world kept moving forward. If you chose to isolate and protect you were left behind. We have seen several of these in our lifetime and they have always been different scares since the beginning of civilization. Yes, there will be massive advancements in technology but there will also be massive incentives for govts, corps, people to protect their own interests. Those groups are infinitely better funded and advanced than the nefarious groups.

 

[SargeMaximus]

You can say the same thing about living in a cabin in the woods with precious metals. There has always been a boogeyman in the future that was supposed to bring everything down but the world kept moving forward. If you chose to isolate and protect you were left behind. We have seen several of these in our lifetime and they have always been different scares since the beginning of civilization. Yes, there will be massive advancements in technology but there will also be massive incentives for govts, corps, people to protect their own interests. Those groups are infinitely better funded and advanced than the nefarious groups.

I’m not living in a cabin in the woods hoarding metals. Not sure what gave you that idea

 

[BackInTheGame78]

You can say the same thing about living in a cabin in the woods with precious metals. There has always been a boogeyman in the future that was supposed to bring everything down but the world kept moving forward. If you chose to isolate and protect you were left behind. We have seen several of these in our lifetime and they have always been different scares since the beginning of civilization. Yes, there will be massive advancements in technology but there will also be massive incentives for govts, corps, people to protect their own interests. Those groups are infinitely better funded and advanced than the nefarious groups.

If you only knew how old and poorly defended the US Government systems are you might change your mind on that haha

 

[jaygreenb]

If you only knew how old and poorly defended the US Government systems are you might change your mind on that haha

I am definetely not an expert on tech but you do not think an apple/google/amazon has the access to capital/tech /talent to develop the capabilities or incentives to defend their billion to trillion dollar networks? Or that governments and their agencies do not have the reach/funds/surveliance to track down small groups trying to bring the whole system down? Not saying there are not going to be potential issues or flare ups but also think over time any issues get figured out and resolved just because the amount of money on the line and the corresponding funding and attention that goes with that. I am not going to pretend to know though, anything is possible

I’m not living in a cabin in the woods hoarding metals. Not sure what gave you that idea

Comment was a little tongue and cheek but you made the comment of physical over digital which is a regressive/defensive/not evolving with the times position. Do agree though, very important to own both for different reasons especially now. which I do as well.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I am definetely not an expert on tech but you do not think an apple/google/amazon has the access to capital/tech /talent to develop the capabilities or incentives to defend their billion to trillion dollar networks? Or that governments and their agencies do not have the reach/funds/surveliance to track down small groups trying to bring the whole system down? Not saying there are not going to be potential issues or flare ups but also think over time any issues get figured out and resolved just because the amount of money on the line and the corresponding funding and attention that goes with that. I am not going to pretend to know though, anything is possible


Comment was a little tongue and cheek but you made the comment of physical over digital which is a regressive/defensive/not evolving with the times position. Do agree though, very important to own both for different reasons especially now. which I do as well.

Even today, if someone wants to get in badly enough they eventually will to some degree...

Adding quantum computing capabilities makes almost any defense system 10000x more vulnerable than it is today to attacks and breaches. And that 10000 number might be more like 1,000,000...

 

[jaygreenb]

Even today, if someone wants to get in badly enough they eventually will to some degree...

Adding quantum computing capabilities makes almost any defense system 10000x more vulnerable than it is today to attacks and breaches. And that 10000 number might be more like 1,000,000...

Do those quantum capabilities not apply to the other side of to those defending their systems though software/encryption etc and their abilities to do so? Also, who has access to the latest and greatest cutting edge tech? Genuinely asking

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Quantum computers will be able solve problems in minutes that would take the fastest supercomputers today millions of years.

Only if they ever exist, which they might not.

Quantum computing has a hype problem

Quantum computing startups are all the rage, but it’s unclear if they’ll be able to produce anything of use in the near future.

www.technologyreview.com

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Do those quantum capabilities not apply to the other side of to those defending their systems though software/encryption etc and their abilities to do so? Also, who has access to the latest and greatest cutting edge tech? Genuinely asking

Not sure but in terms of hacking/breaking into things what usually ends up being most secure are the things that take the most computing power to break into since it would take a very very long time to break thru security/passwords, etc...

If computers exist that can take even the most secure systems known currently and render them useless within a few seconds or minutes, I am not sure how that would be combatible. As of right now they would need to come up with some sort of newer technology that doesn't get exist to defeat that.

US Military likely would be pretty high on the list of latest/greatest since they end up inventing a good portion of it, or at least the people/companies working in conjunction with them. So many common things in every day usage owe their existence to the US Military such as the Internet, satellites, GPS and microwaves.

Would be really remarkable to think of how things would be different if they weren't continually churning out technology that is at first used by them but then later repurposed for civilians.

 

[Serenity]

It will also open up a world where nothing will be secure because all current security protocols will be able to be cracked within mere seconds even by the most rudimentary methods like Brute Force attacks.

There are already many quantum safe encryption methods both in existence and in use today.

Quantum computing can do some things way way better than classical computing because of the way it works, but it's not overall superior at everything. It will break some of today's commonly used encryption methods, but not all. Once quantum computing becomes more available and there's a couple of large data breaches related to it you'll probably see everyone changing their encryption method to something quantum safe.

I'm pretty sure military, intelligence and other critical functions have already used quantum safe algorithms for many years. The security risk of quantum computer attacks and the solutions have been known about for many years.

The AES encryption for instance was established by NIST all the way back in 2001 and AES-256 in particular is quantum safe. It's in use by the US government among many others worldwide.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

There are already many quantum safe encryption methods both in existence and in use today.

Quantum computing can do some things way way better than classical computing because of the way it works, but it's not overall superior at everything. It will break some of today's commonly used encryption methods, but not all. Once quantum computing becomes more available and there's a couple of large data breaches related to it you'll probably see everyone changing their encryption method to something quantum safe.

I'm pretty sure military, intelligence and other critical functions have already used quantum safe algorithms for many years. The security risk of quantum computer attacks and the solutions have been known about for many years.

The AES encryption for instance was established by NIST all the way back in 2001 and AES-256 in particular is quantum safe. It's in use by the US government among many others worldwide.

Well, certain AES encryption is good depending on which cipher suites are used.

We just got dinged on a pen test audit at work and had to upgrade our allowable cipher suites on Azure cloud servers to eliminate any weak cipher suites and only allow strong ones.

These are constantly changing however and what might be considered strong today could be weak in a few weeks or months once vulnerabilities are found.

When you have government sponsored hacking like North Korea, China, Russia and of course the US(covertly behind the scenes) are involved in, vulnerabilities tend to get found much quicker than they otherwise would if left to only random hacking groups.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Only if they ever exist, which they might not.

Quantum computing has a hype problem

Quantum computing startups are all the rage, but it’s unclear if they’ll be able to produce anything of use in the near future.

www.technologyreview.com

They likely will at some point...the number of recent breakthroughs they are making in the quantum realm is staggering and seemingly are finding things that upend foundational scientific theories, laws and principals almost weekly now.

 

[Deranged]

The future could be crazier than the last redhead you had a fling with.

Picture this: You say the wrong thing online. Some advanced AI -using quantum tech- hacks into and orders a drone strike on your exact location. It knows this because you have a phone in your pocket. You don't have time to react nor hear it coming.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

About to enter a technological era that has yet to ever be seen on earth at the same time as entering an era that might be the most dangerous one when we look at the effects of AI along with Quantum Computers could pose if they are used for nefarious purposes.

Quantum computers could solve problems in minutes that would take today's supercomputers millions of years

Quantum computers could give us answers to impossible problems in physics, chemistry, engineering and medicine.

www.cbsnews.com

"If", huh?

Never trust anything having to do with a black cube.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I am definetely not an expert on tech but you do not think an apple/google/amazon has the access to capital/tech /talent to develop the capabilities or incentives to defend their billion to trillion dollar networks? Or that governments and their agencies do not have the reach/funds/surveliance to track down small groups trying to bring the whole system down? Not saying there are not going to be potential issues or flare ups but also think over time any issues get figured out and resolved just because the amount of money on the line and the corresponding funding and attention that goes with that. I am not going to pretend to know though, anything is possible


Comment was a little tongue and cheek but you made the comment of physical over digital which is a regressive/defensive/not evolving with the times position. Do agree though, very important to own both for different reasons especially now. which I do as well.

You misunderstand. I don’t look to physical as a rejection of digital, I’m all about the digital. But it’s prudent to have many baskets for your eggs

 

[Kotaix]

Maybe this makes living with hard assets instead of digital ones better?

You don't even need to get into bank account passwords or security to see how much this one makes sense. Sony basically deleted people's purchased items from their digital library because their licensing agreement ran out. No refund, just a nice fvck you.

 

[Serenity]

Well, certain AES encryption is good depending on which cipher suites are used.

We just got dinged on a pen test audit at work and had to upgrade our allowable cipher suites on Azure cloud servers to eliminate any weak cipher suites and only allow strong ones.

These are constantly changing however and what might be considered strong today could be weak in a few weeks or months once vulnerabilities are found.

When you have government sponsored hacking like North Korea, China, Russia and of course the US(covertly behind the scenes) are involved in, vulnerabilities tend to get found much quicker than they otherwise would if left to only random hacking groups.

It's my impression that the proper encryption algorithms themselves aren't the weak link in modern hacking. There are a large number of potential vulnerabilities that doesn't really have anything to do with weakness in the encryption algorithms themselves. Could be the people on the inside, the other systems around the encrypted material or a number of other weaknesses not directly related to the chosen algorithm.

Social engineering is usually far easier than trying to crack encryption technology. Even the most unbreakable encryption is useless if there's a much easier way around it rather than through it.

My point is that I don't think quantum computing is going to change digital security other than everyone making sure they're using quantum resistant encryption, all other potential vulnerabilities being about the same.