Pulling at the party...Wolf? :D

[yungahdubz]

I went to a party today.

The only people I knew there were the people I arrived with, with the exception of 1 or 2 who were there who go to my school.

I recognised a lot of the people there from their public myspace's but none of them knew me. Firstly because i don't really use myspace, just go on it if i'm bored, and secondly because im not really that popular around my town.

I rolled up with 6 or 7 people, 3 of them being very popular in our school. The one guy knew everyone, if it wasn't for him we wouldn't have gotten into the party lol. Everyone was saying hi to him on the way to and during the party, and the other 2 knew a fair few people at the party as well.

During the party i felt a bit stiff(no, not down there), i kinda felt like i didn't belong. This is because a lot of the people there you would class as 'chavs', these are kinda the trouble makers over here in England. And the girls weren't dressed chavvy themselves, a lot of them were quite sexy actually, but they associate with these kinda guys and these are the type they usually go for.

These kinda chavs are the ones popular in my town.

As i am not a chav, i didn't feel as though these girls would go for me, so i felt sorta out of place even though my mates were with me. i was just sticking to them instead of going round and socialising with people.

Now i know people that aren't of the same social 'clique', but still fit in with others. I want to be this kinda person. Someone who dresses a certain way but fits in with everyone and popular. I dress like a 'trendy', this is basically just stylish clothes, not like a chav or rocker etc. But i want to be someone who fits in with everyone, chav/goth/rocker/trendy whatever.

To be fair, i fit into that example. At school i wouldn't consider myself at the very top of the popularity chain, but i am somewhat popular. I am good mates with most of the popular boys, and quite good friends/acquaintances with most of the popular girls, but i am also good friend with the rockers who aren't as popular and are from different social cliques to the people who i hang around with at lunchtimes.

But this is not the case outside of school with people i don't know.

Like i went to a party a couple months back where it was just people from our school and i had a great time, i even got with two HAWT girls. I knew them somewhat , and felt comfortable talking to them as i was in an environment i was comfortable inwith people i knew.

This was not the case at this party i just went to as i knew hardly anyone and felt as though i didn't fit in.

i want to be able 2 get with girls that associate with chavs, are these make up the majority of hot girls around here, but not actually be a chav myself. i don't wanna get caught up in that lifestyle.

I'd appreciate input from Wolf as he is form the UK and may appreciate this dynamic, but anyione else who feels they can contribute to this thread, please do so.

I guess i wanna know how i can raise my value and status so i'm more popular in my town and how to pull girls of any kind and how to feel comfortable in an atmosphere where i dont know many people.

I dont feel i've put what i want to ask accross well, im kinda drunk and tired and i will edit this later. .

 

[shaunuk]

yunga, I'm from the UK, and I also observed this 'phenomenon' when I was in senior school (i.e. 'all' the hot girls going for chavs or 'hardknocks' at school)

where abouts in the UK are you from?

how it works is, when everyone is in senior school (up till age 16), the hot girls know they're hot, and they can just about have any guy they want in the year (or even years above or below). They get lots of validation from the fact that everyone wants them and they are aware of it. This is the same as nearly any social dynamic...

The confident guys tend to be the ones who are good at football (soccer), and the 'hardknocks' (you know, the ones who are notorious for being in trouble all the time etc)...including 'chavs'. These are the guys who are most confident, and many of them are considered the 'bad boy'...

Thus they are the ones who hang with all the hot girls and pull them..

So how do you get with the hot girls when you're not a chav? Same as always, it's all about the confidence and game. BUT, in my opinion, it's a lot harder in this situation (british senior school, i.e. up till year 11, age 16) because of the cliqueyness of it all...Some of the 'hot' girls might not even consider you as a possibility because of all the other 'popular guys' around (which is the 'badboys' and other jock type guys)...

But when does this change...this almost completely changes after school ends and sixth form or the world of work begins (i.e. 16-18+)...Everyone is more or less thrown out into the 'real world' and most people realise that their schoolboy/girl ego means very little in this real world...and they should lower it pretty fast because people won't tolerate it. And so this silly teenage cliqueyness dissolves almost fully and the playing field levels again. Real game begins, in my opinion.

And things are completely normal by time university comes round (or just working). Anyone is fair game.

But what should you do? You need to become the popular guy in school. Be more of a 'don't give a ****' guy, have a backbone, dress cool, act cool, BE cool.

Not only will this help you pull the girls you want in school but being the popular guy out in the real world is also gonna set you up big time. Obviously....

 

[yungahdubz]

yunga, I'm from the UK, and I also observed this 'phenomenon' when I was in senior school (i.e. 'all' the hot girls going for chavs or 'hardknocks' at school)

where abouts in the UK are you from?

how it works is, when everyone is in senior school (up till age 16), the hot girls know they're hot, and they can just about have any guy they want in the year (or even years above or below). They get lots of validation from the fact that everyone wants them and they are aware of it. This is the same as nearly any social dynamic...

The confident guys tend to be the ones who are good at football (soccer), and the 'hardknocks' (you know, the ones who are notorious for being in trouble all the time etc)...including 'chavs'. These are the guys who are most confident, and many of them are considered the 'bad boy'...

Thus they are the ones who hang with all the hot girls and pull them..

So how do you get with the hot girls when you're not a chav? Same as always, it's all about the confidence and game. BUT, in my opinion, it's a lot harder in this situation (british senior school, i.e. up till year 11, age 16) because of the cliqueyness of it all...Some of the 'hot' girls might not even consider you as a possibility because of all the other 'popular guys' around (which is the 'badboys' and other jock type guys)...

But when does this change...this almost completely changes after school ends and sixth form or the world of work begins (i.e. 16-18+)...Everyone is more or less thrown out into the 'real world' and most people realise that their schoolboy/girl ego means very little in this real world...and they should lower it pretty fast because people won't tolerate it. And so this silly teenage cliqueyness dissolves almost fully and the playing field levels again. Real game begins, in my opinion.

And things are completely normal by time university comes round (or just working). Anyone is fair game.

But what should you do? You need to become the popular guy in school. Be more of a 'don't give a ****' guy, have a backbone, dress cool, act cool, BE cool.

Not only will this help you pull the girls you want in school but being the popular guy out in the real world is also gonna set you up big time. Obviously....

Cheers for the reply Shaun.

I believe i fit that criteria fairly well. I tend to do what i like, i don't really care about what a lot of people think of me.

I stand up for myself, i don't take **** from people, but i also know who not to square up to so you could say i was guilty for not standing up for myself 100% of the time , but i reckon this is more good judgement than it is cowardice.

I definitely dress cool, and act cool some of the time, but i'm the joker of the group and have an innate ability to make people laugh so that involves me acting like a clown sometimes, but not really caring if i look like a ****head if it results in everyone else having fun, but more importantly me having fun.

Also, i'm from Birmingham

 

[War Against Betaism]

Clothing isn't gonna get you pvssy, your game and attitude will. Clothing wise I also don't fit in the scene that I'm in. I live in L.A. and every time I go to a club, everyone is dressed up as a hypebeast (certain type of clothing style where people look like walking rainbows). I stick out like a sore thumb because I like wearing "whiteboy" clothing like Aeropostale, American Eagle, Hollister, etc. Though in my group, there is only one other person that pulls more b1tches than me. We actually went to a club last Thursday and I got two numbers while none of my other friends didn't.

The simple solution to your problem is to be social and outgoing. Yesterday I was with my friends and they brought along these girls who brought their girlfriends. They looked uncomfortable and were mostly AIMing on their sidekicks, though I just went up to them and started talking, like "So how do you know them?" And they said they only knew their one girlfriend that they came with who knew my friends. I just started asking questions and talked to them and they got comfortable around me. The key is to ask questions.

I know your concerned about not getting caught up in a lifestyle you don't wanna get in, but it's easier to avoid than you think. Just don't associate with them at all. They're not gonna initiate you unless you want to. I have quite a few friends that are bloods and I know of two crips that I'm cool with, but I'm no gangster because I don't wanna be. They'll respect you for that.

 

[yungahdubz]

If you got any more questions, or want me to go further, just say. This is what used to work for me.

Fairly broad question, how do i pull girls?

I've been in a bit of a slump lately, admittedly i haven't been trying very hard with regards to girls as my exams are higher in my list of priorities ... but 2 months is a long time to have gone without getting any.

Once my exams are over it's basically just sessions, piss ups, gatherings and parties, but I wanna be prepared for when those 12 weeks arrive.

So what I'm basically asking is which techniques/mindsets do you think are optimal for reeling the girls in?

Bit about me

I'm lucky that i have an innate ability to make people laugh, although it tends to be somewhat reserved when in the company of people i don't know. When I'm in 'state' though, i can generally make anyone laugh/ have a good time.

I'm not that high up in the 'social hierarchy', but people round school do know me and i have a fair amount of popular friends.

If i was to use any 'techniques', it would probably be ****y and Funny, although i don't really consider it a technique, more just part of me.

I'm average looking, slightly above at best I'd say. I've got sick hair , but also a rather large schnoz ... although I'm Indian, what do you expect .

I understand this is a pretty open ended question with many answers, but I'd appreciate any advice from you as you seem to give good advice and you're from the same country so you get the picture a bit more.

Much appreciated mate.

/End licking Wolf's bumhole.