PUAs be lying about their lays

[Fruitbat]

you'd be right lol
Game isn't mind control.
You can't force attraction in a girl with 'NLP' (lol) or negs or any other PUA cope. (but 'game' is useful to help not mess up with girls who tihnk you are handsome or whatever. Not necessarily required though depending on just how hot she thinks you are)

look into my eyes, would you like to see my watch?

 

[Sam_J]

I have.

2003. Went back with a woman who was beautiful but a bit older (like early 30s).

what she didn’t tell me is we went back to her cousins house because she be married. She be married to a big ass man. After bumping uglies, said man turns up at 2am on the doorstep with her 14 year old kid shouting “look at what you’re doing to this family”

I never knew any of this and I told her to go, felt terrible.

so, as soon as she went, her cousin (who was about my age 23ish) immediately jumps on me and we spend the night f00king.

walked out and that was the last I saw of either of them.

Sounds fun

 

[Pandora]

Back to original post, but those numbers don;t sound too outlandish to me. If you're devoting tens of hours to your life each week meeting women - particularly if its your main source of income, business etc. Generally the more you focus and apply yourself to something, the better you get. Couple with being half decent looking, solid 'game', personality, in the right city, I'd imagine its certainly possible.

Particularly if you live in a large city, which attracts high numbers of younger tourists who'll likely be partying - somewhere like Barcelona, which is where I believe @Bigpapa lives. Possibly if based out in certain holiday/party destinations like ibiza, majorca, certain greek islands that attract loads of young drunk women for a few months duriing the summer season. Imagine you could get through a few women each week if you're good at this kind of thing.

If you're living a fairly typical life - working 40 hours a week (outside of pua industry), have other interests outside of women, you'd have to be top tier in something to hit those numbers as your time spent out there would be much lower so you'd need to be closing women quickly, couldn't spam approach. Also would probably be compromising on quality.

Yes I can see that. Spam approaching is the key and being is a party city with a high turnover of women is the other key. Good point bro.

 

[zinc4]

So I am watching this Incel live stream from FACE LMS. He is debating a PUA who claims his ugly PUA partner is smashing 50 girls a YEAR. The PUA claims he smashed 300 to 400 girls in his lifetime of 31 yrs.

I think many of these guys greatly exaggerate how many girls they smash. I have known actual fitness models Chads who were div 1 atheletes and had fitness model contracts. They were doing maybe 5 new girls on a good month and this was not consistent. Even that was incredible. On average it was maybe 3 new girls a month. This is only 36 girls a year.

I know I have better game than most of these PUAs and I have never done anywhere close to 50 in ONE year unless I dont care about the quality of the females looks.

I bet if you were to meet these guys in real life they are good, but they are not as good as they claim. I dont know why they cant keep it real lol.

I think it depends on where all you have lived and how much time and effort you have spent on getting women.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

lolol...when did you get this 21 yr old? And where did you find her? Do you live next to a university? The reason I was in college housing was because I was a grad student so I qualified for the housing lol.

Grocery store. Not my first rodeo. Another was from my gym and I just recognized her while out. that is imo the TARGETED DEMOGRAPHIC.

Tbh I think a fair assessment be it pua or red pill, assume everyone is doing a con job until proven otherwise. Much of pickup is trash. A lot of red pill are boomers with busted wives or ugly overweight gfs. The roasts were telling. I can only listen to Troy or Tusk. Rsd is pretty much dead. Aaron Clarey is the only guy in red pill that says what a dumpster fire the smp is.

Nice man. I am always curious if I had to do it over. The Ls are common place just approaching and taking a shot. My ****s are on empty. I essentially give no free attention after an approach. Pull or next. Blow me or blow me out.

I will be honest and say, young blood got their work cut out for them. It was rubbish on my come up. It's a dumpster fire now.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Yes I can see that. Spam approaching is the key and being is a party city with a high turnover of women is the other key. Good point bro.

I think I once coined chaining gunning pickup from Go. <--- path for noobs. High school or freshman college. Then scale back. Calibrate. Don't spend days and nights. Seek competence and then sniper approach a handful of times on the regular.

MM is dated but still has gems. 3sec rule, dhv, preselection, etc among other things. storytelling is underrated but most nattys got this down pat. modern day Robert Munch. I never met a natural who didn't have the gift of gab and storytelling down. million dollar mouth piece.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

bro wtf? Was it a same day lay? I need to come to your city lol

Coffee shop cafe. Leicester. did the robbery. Girl was talking to a guy coworker. Clearly into her. Very beta. Soy. Low T.

For context, I cannon balled into chat her up and it was like he wasn't even there. Dude stood their silent and finally left when it was evident she wanted me D in and around her mouth. not a SNL. met in a coffee shop. Crushed at her place.

SHE hits me up via text for a movie. Didn't have a TV in her bedroom. Lulz! Obv still run tight game. Early 20s again. Another college girl invited me in after the club at 2am for COFFEE!

HILARIOUS!

BOTH 6.5/7 range. Young, tight, banging bod.

God bless feminism for teaching women getting ran through is empowering.

 

[zekko]

I'm sure a lot of it has to do with how much time and energy you're willing to put into it. Doesn't hurt to have low standards, I'm sure.
They talk about having passions, hobbies, and interests here, but the guys I've known who got laid the most really had no other interests other than getting laid. They virtually put ALL of their time into it. They were sizing up every girl they saw, and were very direct. Their next smash was always on their minds.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

The number of lays someone has frankly is irrelevant to me, I’m in my 50’s when I’m really juggling things I can easily do 2 quality new lays a month. Quality to me is defined as 30-50 but in athlete shape and a non neurotic personality. Sometimes you uncover gems. Over the years of in person approaches and bouts on Tinder I’ve managed to keep a harem of 5-10 decent quality gals with usually 2-3 I see more than once a week simultaneously.

As I’ve aged I like the mini relationship model, as opposed to the ONS. FNL is still important to me as proof of SMV. At most, if she’s super high quality I’ll expect a second date lay.

I’m nowhere near model quality, I’m in excellent athletic shape, I’m a polyglot, I’m traveled, excellent in the sack and passionate. I have presence and confidence. On a good day I’d say and others too that I’m solid 7.5-8. My backstory is interesting to most chicks regardless of age. And yes I’m a storyteller, which works very well for those who believe in Kino. Engage them emotionally, watch their faces and bodies and the attention your story garners then reach out for the first contact during a heightened moment of engagement. If you are a passionate man, use your hands to talk and are engaging, kino feels natural and expected to

When I started this phase of my life I was more indiscriminate about my lays, but as time has passed I won’t go for anything below 7.5, of course this is subjective as frak but I do t care what other bastards think, if they pass the big we test for me that’s what matters. Age teaches you to have the ZFG attitude.

so, in slay mode 24/year in cruise mode probably 10-12/year- but I have a number of regulars. Unfortunately this requires one to have his wits about himself, or you’ll get busted and potentially lose more than one plate.

in any case what are American so-called PUA’s charging per hour these days? Can anyone give me an average?

 

[characternote]

in any case what are American so-called PUA’s charging per hour these days? Can anyone give me an average?

I think James Tusk earns about £250 ($350 ish) per hour on a bootcamp (which consists of him saying 'Go and approach that girl and tell her she's hot and you wanted to say hi' and then after he is rejected, telling him it's ok and then point out a new girl). And he's always fully booked. He gave up a very well paid job in London finance to become a 'PUA'

Similarly, Kezia Noble has made a FORTUNE, charging (usually older, wealthier clients) around 4k for a weekend of coaching

Both British, but i'm sure it's not much different in the US

 

[B80]

a fews years ago when googling around krauser was charging a few k for a few days with him coaching znd approaching in somewhere like Prague.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

The number of lays someone has frankly is irrelevant to me, I’m in my 50’s when I’m really juggling things I can easily do 2 quality new lays a month. Quality to me is defined as 30-50 but in athlete shape and a non neurotic personality. Sometimes you uncover gems. Over the years of in person approaches and bouts on Tinder I’ve managed to keep a harem of 5-10 decent quality gals with usually 2-3 I see more than once a week simultaneously.

As I’ve aged I like the mini relationship model, as opposed to the ONS. FNL is still important to me as proof of SMV. At most, if she’s super high quality I’ll expect a second date lay.

I’m nowhere near model quality, I’m in excellent athletic shape, I’m a polyglot, I’m traveled, excellent in the sack and passionate. I have presence and confidence. On a good day I’d say and others too that I’m solid 7.5-8. My backstory is interesting to most chicks regardless of age. And yes I’m a storyteller, which works very well for those who believe in Kino. Engage them emotionally, watch their faces and bodies and the attention your story garners then reach out for the first contact during a heightened moment of engagement. If you are a passionate man, use your hands to talk and are engaging, kino feels natural and expected to

When I started this phase of my life I was more indiscriminate about my lays, but as time has passed I won’t go for anything below 7.5, of course this is subjective as frak but I do t care what other bastards think, if they pass the big we test for me that’s what matters. Age teaches you to have the ZFG attitude.

so, in slay mode 24/year in cruise mode probably 10-12/year- but I have a number of regulars. Unfortunately this requires one to have his wits about himself, or you’ll get busted and potentially lose more than one plate.

in any case what are American so-called PUA’s charging per hour these days? Can anyone give me an average?

Not sure. In the UK, it's pricey.

Outside Tusk or Troy, not familiar of who is doing BCS anymore let alone has infield. tusk is a receipt machine but has the highest smv then say that rsd crew.

If fellas adopted a black pill outlook on women and dating but operated from the perspective of a playboy with absolutely nothing to lose, more guys would be better off. most red pill is married and usually to busted or overweight. next to no receipts and not shocking given what they play house with.

Assuming a fellas is above 5, learning Game is money. It's changed my dating life. The height pill is brutal but real. Pending aesthetics, a man can do damage. Unfortunately, you have a glass ceiling. It's life. The looks money game paradigm increases probability. Sadly those who pedal it are rarely if ever living it but they got a new program.