PuaDrama interviews Just_Francis tomrw

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Just facts here, the YouTube channel, PUADrama, will interview Just_Francis tomorrow, 7/29/21, at 10AM.

The topic is California PUA, Just_Francis, will address controversy & fan/rival criticism of him.

His channel has picked up steam over the past 6 months as he has been filming live cold approaches in California.

I don’t agree with all of his techniques but I have to give him credit, he is out there, live, and really committed, he has a good energy.

 

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I remember him from his time with RSD

Then I remember his older channel. Back then I was new and assumed he had good game and stuff (despite even then he seemed to mostly get 'harsh' rejections, often getting into confrontations, got pushed into a bush by a women, nearly got attacked by a dude in Vegas etc). And would always lie so much in infieds (which I don't mind. I lie to girls too) but he'd lik about like being a hand to hand combat marine and stuff. It was so ty hard. And he still does that

I watched a few of his live streams recently. Hilarious. I even started a thread linking his stream here. The hilarious one was where he 'pulled' the fattest, ugliest woman i've probably ever seen in an infield. I'd need 55 viagra's to stand a shot with here. At one point it almost looked like she was expected payment or something lol, then it got weird, the camera cut out, and then it seemed he was outside again. All very ood, but he's clearly a pretty odd guy tbh.

But then, John anthony who I think began the 'call out' is equally odd. They're all odd guys who lie non-stop about their success in order to make money from desperate guys

At least he's actually approaching though, and live streaming them which is something. But I heard bad things about him literally ripping people off and stuff back when he was 'frank night game'

 

[Coast]

Wow, the plot thickens, I didn’t know Frank was a RSD member. I was in a LTR in the RSD era, I don’t know much about them…

I actually missed the interview. Yes he is still using the stolen valor claim to be a hand to hand combat instructor in the armed services. I wanted to throw him a hardball & ask him how he can claim to be authentic to his audience if he’s setting people up for long-term failure by outright lying.

What is his Frank Night Game history, I couldn’t find any videos?

 

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Wow, the plot thickens, I didn’t know Frank was a RSD member. I was in a LTR in the RSD era, I don’t know much about them…

I actually missed the interview. Yes he is still using the stolen valor claim to be a hand to hand combat instructor in the armed services. I wanted to throw him a hardball & ask him how he can claim to be authentic to his audience if he’s setting people up for long-term failure by outright lying.

What is his Frank Night Game history, I couldn’t find any videos?

Franknightgame was the name of his youtube channel. I think it got deleted or he deleted it.
It was basically the same as his current 'francis dating' channel, although was basically in bars at night instead of cycling around in the day lol

Was basically just nonstop approaches where girls were generally very dismissive of him. He'd try to 'hold frame' and stuff and then it lead to some cringeworthy interactions from a 'master PUA' where he was literally getting shoved into a bush by some girl. Other ones where guys were close to knocking him out after he approaches girls, they weren't interested, their male friends turn up, he 'holds frame' and yeah, just awful. Think he also tried to finger some girl at the bar in a really uncalibrated way from memory. That's another one that sticks out lol - This was probably around the time where i'd been reading pickup theory for a while and had made lots of approaches and was starting to slowly question whether ANY of these guys actually had an secrets to getting girls or skill or whether skill was even particularly relevant lol.

I slowly came to my own conclusions which are somewhere in the middle (game matters but it's basically for the strong maybe-yes girls.)

In terms of RSD, he was just one of their coaches but not one of the main guys (instructors). He 'helped' Julian and Todd on their immersion programs and stuff. You can even see him in some infields from one of Juliens products where Julian pulls some stripper in the day time

 

[Coast]

Yeah I saw one his clips where he raged at a girl on a boardwalk over a rejection & it seemed like he had a history behind that as he made some frame based comment to her. So I’m not surprised on the one hand about his club history but again at least he’s made some positive adjustments.

Is there a website to find his old club videos?

 

[Velasco]

Is there a website to find his old club videos?

There was this guy, YaReally that broke down several good things Frank did in his videos, that I copy pasted (and used that helped land me several lays, so I know they were legit).

Here's the main ones:

Frank: We should move out of the way of everyone
Girl: No fvck that
Frank: You’re feisty, I like that

That’s good calibration. Like even if she DOESN’T follow his lead he turns it into qualifying her. Same as Cajun’s classic “I like her because she’s the only one who gave me sht when I first talked to you three.”

[...]

Girl: I have to go to my room”
Frank: I’ll walk you there, my father taught me bla bla I’m sober and trustworthy bla bla

All good sht here…using being a gentleman as the excuse to get isolated up to her room, baby stepping closer to the goal. I use this and the reverse of this: “I’ll walk you there” or on a Day2 I’ll often use “you have to walk me home, it’s dark and I’m scared, someone might rape me” because I pick a venue near my apartment.

[...]

His description of a previous story of “crunch time” (23:15 - 27) because there’s people in the room, trying to escalate fast before you get to the ****ty logistical situation and taking her into the staircase is hilarious. Been there a bunch of times myself. This guy knows what he’s doing, these are the stories guys who push their sets end up with. I have a buddy who doesn’t push his sets like he should be, and I went through a period where I was very pro-actively pushing my sets to see what limiting beliefs I could break. When we pull girls together, he’s always just sort of going along with it, while I’m taking notes of “ok make her lag behind the my buddy and his girl so we have isolation and I can kiss her, there’s a corner I can let them walk around and then pin her against to escalate a bit harder then pull away, he has a mail room with dim lights by the elevator I can pull her into to “miss” the elevator and take a second one which’ll give us both isolation”
Like when you do it enough you learn to spot all the little things in the environment you can use to help you out. But that comes from actually pushing your sets. Like he says “don’t just give up at the lobby”.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Wow, the plot thickens, I didn’t know Frank was a RSD member. I was in a LTR in the RSD era, I don’t know much about them…

I actually missed the interview. Yes he is still using the stolen valor claim to be a hand to hand combat instructor in the armed services. I wanted to throw him a hardball & ask him how he can claim to be authentic to his audience if he’s setting people up for long-term failure by outright lying.

What is his Frank Night Game history, I couldn’t find any videos?

I miss the rsd Era. YouTube is full of mental masturbation and nearly nobody approaching.

There is a bunch of new guys on the scene. I'm naturally skeptical. Everyone has a theory but is married and has a tangent about hypergamy.

Who are you following these days?

 

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I was actually going to make a new thread, London based Sol_Dating on YouTube just took down all of his approach videos.

Any idea why? The guy had skill.