PUA is (was) a Politically Correct Scam

[nicksaiz65]

Maximize your looks. Find a style of Game that works well for you. Game only works when you've passed her minimum looks requirement and she is sexually available.

AMS: Your looks get you in the door. Your Game gets you the ass. And your personality determines how long you're gonna keep getting the ass.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Not how it works in practice

How does it work in your opinion?

 

[jerrycalahan]

Those of us who have been in the field for a while know that this isn't necessarily true, and believing it is the mark of a newbie. When was the last time you went out?

Overall, too many words in this post, OP is gay

LMAO! Enjoy your time alone in the middle of a grass field, fag. Butthurt PUA's are always good for a laugh.

 

[biggoal]

Like I said there was a worker at the market who's super super skinny like 105lbs only like 5-5 at the max and yet has game. He just approaches 100s of women and eventually gets dates that way. Also has no stable employment. He offered to go to the beach or the clubs and show me how it's done. And he isn't above average looking in order to make up for his super manlet size.

Granted, these are not HB9 women, more like HB6 but still shocking they'd go for him. Usually they only last a couple months and that's it though.

 

[zekko]

There's a difference between viewing women as slightly alien, and getting annoyed with them, and actually resenting every moment you spend vertically clothed near them. There's a pathological objectification and sense of entitlement among the incel crowd...that's...quite disturbing. I think such guys would probably be better off gay.

It's not even just the incels, supposedly. A lot of guys who claim to slay a lot of women talk about not being able to stand being around them outside the bedroom. I actually enjoy their company, generally. They're not perfect, but who is?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

It's not even just the incels, supposedly. A lot of guys who claim to slay a lot of women talk about not being able to stand being around them outside the bedroom. I actually enjoy their company, generally. They're not perfect, but who is?

They are saying many hardened sluts have some obnoxious ways. People have things they do to feel in control. You might not like it.

 

[zekko]

They are saying many hardened sluts have some obnoxious ways. People have things they do to feel in control. You might not like it.

I don't know, my impression is they find all women unpleasant to be around. The vibe is kind of like "I'm such an ultra-masculine alpha male, I can't be bothered by the prattlings of these estrogen based silly childish life forms. It is beneath my dignity and my interest. The alpha way is to smash and move on".

 

[zekko]

I guess, I just can't figure out why anyone who legitimately hates women would want to spend any time with them.

For the sex, obviously. And the alpha male glory. "I'm an alpha male and I must smash every woman in my vicinity, as is my alpha male right. Let all who see me despair at my masculine alpha-ness". And I don't know if they hate women so much as they aren't interested in them (on a personal level). They think such silliness is beneath them, because women are like their bratty little sisters and all. You can't seriously expect them to actually spend time with such creatures?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I'm sure plenty of people would get the same idea about me, reading my posts, because I do view women as unaccountable children, but kids are cute and fun, or can be, as long as they aren't brats. So, to compare women to children isn't hatred, but just an acknowledgement of the legal and physical reality in which we live. I don't even think it's an alterable or even a necessarily undesirable state of affairs; it's just an anthropological fact, and one which men need to accept and stop whining about(the legal war on men being a separate matter).

As far as sex goes, grudge f ucking is overrated. Sex is a thousand times better when you actually like the girl. I suppose rapists would be inclined to disagree, though.

It's 10x better if she likes YOU.

 

[zekko]

I'm sure plenty of people would get the same idea about me, reading my posts, because I do view women as unaccountable children, but kids are cute and fun, or can be, as long as they aren't brats.

It's one thing to say women are children, it's another to say therefore it is a waste of time to talk to them. As you say, kids can be cute and fun. Besides which, just for the record, I don't view all women as children. Some are, certainly. A lot of men are, too. Really, all humans are, to some degree. But women in our society are generally held less accountable than men, for sure.

Anyway, I'm not saying the guys who aren't interested in talking to women are wrong. Or right. It takes all kinds to make up the world, after all. I'm just trying to describe a certain type of poster. Such a poster would say "I will bed the girl, some beta chump can take her to lunch". To be honest, I enjoy having lunch with an attractive girl. If that makes me a beta, so be it. I'm not interested in orbiting her while she bangs the neighborhood Lothario though, to be clear.

 

[7onriverI f]

is self help industry a giant scam? ]

 

[mrgoodstuff]

is self help industry a giant scam? ]

No. There are good resources that give folks direction. And a way to improve their situation.

 

[cheyne]

is self help industry a giant scam? ]

pretty much, tbh. Plus most PUA's are going the self help route now. Another unregulated industry where literally anyone (you) could start charging people lots of money for self help (talk to them about meditation and vibrating at a high frequency and stuff). They think the fact that they stumbled into the lucrative world of PUA coaching (hitting on girls until you find one that likes you) qualifies them as business experts

 

[Vantagepoint34]

Wasn't pua like david deangelo. Tried it worked one night or like two of my relationships. Less scammy more like a free pu guide. Can you count todays pu guides that are free. Then no. All you have are red pill guides and gno opinions. So there you go how DD was more successful than todays guides.

 

[Vice]

LMAO! Enjoy your time alone in the middle of a grass field, fag. Butthurt PUA's are always good for a laugh.

Your entire post is several paragraphs of whining and regurgitating information that has been discussed years ago. UTFSF

OP still gay

 

[Mike32ct]

We’re not disagreeing at all. I’ve always believed in “wavelengths” of sorts but I didn’t have a name for it. I think I just referred to it as “clicking” vs “not clicking” with someone.

My earlier point was just that (anecdotally) I have seen far more serious/dry pickups than the charming/funny variety that is preached about by PUA/game gurus. Granted, people may be tired and drunk at the hours that many of these pickups happen, so that could be a factor too.

But the point is a dry introverted guy doesn’t have to fake being a “life of the party” extrovert. He can just own it and still meet the right chick.