PUA featured on PrimeTime (Mystery and Style)

ricorico

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upsidedownside7 said:
"Strauss's girlfriend aint all that hot. With the crowd of shallow chicks he hangs around, he does'nt need game to pick that up. All he needs is money and the fame he has as a writer and working for Rollings Stones mag."

You don't need game to pick up a famous musician? She's not that hot? That's just hate.

1. She's hotter than most chicks any of us have ever had.
2. He was a writer for years and got no tail. Just dressing up and and having money isn't enough to get chicks. Go out to the clubs, you'll see many many good looking well dressed men with money pull nothing even close to Style's girlfriend. If you go in with minimal skills you are just like EVERY SINGLE OTHER GUY!

I'm no fanboy of Mystery & Strauss but those guys do pull and have a linear, coherent and logical system to do it. To downplay their success is exactly like saying Kobe Bryant is not a top 3 player in the NBA.
first off the girl aint that hot. She's all made up.I've pulled wayyy better. But then again that is my taste.

I know a few really rich guys who are not all that, but they pull the hottest women around. To say they have "game" is an overstatement. Money is what they have and beautiful women everywhere respond to the lure of money. Do you ever wonder why Strauss's first hit coincidentally happened to be a "Playboy" mopdel at Home Depo. Boy , that happens everywhere. No! Only if you live in a rich area and the women there respond easily to guys who have cash.

they never said he "dated" her for awhile. They just dsaid the first woman he negged was a "Playboy" model. I would rather have heard they dated and seen pictures of them together, rather than a cover of a "playboy shot".

It makes me wonder how they spinned it in their advertising for the book. fact: Did he date her? Sleep with her? Don't know he leaves that answer very evasive. Do you ever think they may "exxagerate " results for marketing purposes? I would love to see an average guy who is a mailman or something,perhaps a little overweight start negging hot girls. Now that would be a funny reality show when she negs him right back with tons of ammo! If you got game, you look good,and you can tell the girl you have a great or cool carreer she may fall for it. But if you don't have anything but "game" good luck!

Now if you don't think money and clothes can get chicks think again.Look at that fat guy from "King of Queens" fat, probably little game but real hot wife. The fat guy from LOST with the frizzball hair and blob head has finally gotten himself a girlfriend. Thin and hot. I'm sure he has a lot of game.... or it is the fact he now has money and fame so he looks a hell of a lot better to shallow Helens.
 

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godsgifttowomen said:
Before you open you're mouth you should think a few times. Out of any 5 girls Mystery approaches, 4 of them become his new gf on average now. And they're hot hot hot SHB's.

Style's gf is an 8.5 in real life if I can remember~


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Do you really know that as fact? I really wonder if everyone believes anything they read or hear. I guess you never read of "marketing" and "advertising your product. A lot of times things are exxagerated in order to lure buyers to the product.

Almost consumer product is embellished a bit. Along with Biographies and such in order to make them more interesting. Can you prove they are lying, no. Probably because they are not. just embellishing numbers to suit their purpose. That's reality.
 

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godsgifttowomen said:
Before you open you're mouth you should think a few times. Out of any 5 girls Mystery approaches, 4 of them become his new gf on average now. And they're hot hot hot SHB's.
Umm, no they don't. Mystery only has one girlfriend, and if you go to his website and read a few of the interviews, he also states that she is his only girlfriend. He does get a lot of phone numbers, but he's also stated that he never calls them, because the subjects are only examples for students.
 

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ricorico said:
first off the girl aint that hot. She's all made up.I've pulled wayyy better. But then again that is my taste.

I know a few really rich guys who are not all that, but they pull the hottest women around. To say they have "game" is an overstatement. Money is what they have and beautiful women everywhere respond to the lure of money. Do you ever wonder why Strauss's first hit coincidentally happened to be a "Playboy" mopdel at Home Depo. Boy , that happens everywhere. No! Only if you live in a rich area and the women there respond easily to guys who have cash.

they never said he "dated" her for awhile. They just dsaid the first woman he negged was a "Playboy" model. I would rather have heard they dated and seen pictures of them together, rather than a cover of a "playboy shot".

It makes me wonder how they spinned it in their advertising for the book. fact: Did he date her? Sleep with her? Don't know he leaves that answer very evasive. Do you ever think they may "exxagerate " results for marketing purposes? I would love to see an average guy who is a mailman or something,perhaps a little overweight start negging hot girls. Now that would be a funny reality show when she negs him right back with tons of ammo! If you got game, you look good,and you can tell the girl you have a great or cool carreer she may fall for it. But if you don't have anything but "game" good luck!
What the f*ck are you talking about? The percentages of men making over 100K in the united states is disturbingly low. So your telling me all those men pick up tail and nobody else can? That's not true, that's straight up delusional. How much do you think Strauss even made being a writer for Rolling Stone magazine? If it's anything over 60,000 I'd be stunned. There are guys way richer striking out with these girls. Your just coming up with an EXCUSE to diss these guys. How many times have you seen the losers in your town get stunning girlfriends? That's practically why David Deangelo has a successful business teaching these guys how to become "jerks".

You've seen a few guys with cash pickup chicks? Uh okay, how is that relevant? It's not. For all we know those girls could be using them for their money or those men are presenting a cool identity, we don't know. It could be an outlier. I'll always take the advice from a tangible source that gets results like a Mystery, Strauss, friends of mine who I've SEEN pull girls over someone with just an opinion with no facts.

That whole mailman bit isn't relevant one bit. This game is to increase your percentages of closing. If your a fat lazy sloppy bum, your percentages may rise a tiny bit but that bum has a lot of work to do internally.

Even if they did exaggerate their results (which is not true considering Mystery is pulling girls literally every night in his workshops) their values and opinions still hold more water than yours or mine or anyone on this board. Opinions are like noses, everyone has one but get the facts from someone who knows what their talking about. You don't go see your doctor for financial consulting...Stop the hating.
 

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Canned lines never work. I'm succesful just striking up a casual conversation and taking it from there.

Today I was at the Circle K getting a drink and there was a hot girl looking up and down the snacks aisle. I said "You remind me of myself not knowing what to have for an afternoon snack. Here, you look like a pork rinds kind of girl." (Handing her a bag of that nasty stuff).

She laughed and said "I do not! I just have to get something because I have four hours to kill."

I said "Oh... why do you have to wait so long?"

We talked for almost 10 minutes inside the circle k. Told her that I had to go and got her number.

Why is that so hard?

but did you lay?

Number closes are by no means a success. The only real success is that lay. Number close should only be done if certain logistics are keeping you from getting the lay.

an yep there was a few stuff leaked about seduction going main stream...don't forget about the upcoming movie that was being talked bout on another forums. (Thats all the info i'm going to say since a few mods on another forums got banned because of different thing similar to this being mainstream)

But like everyone has said before there have been over 500,000+ people who pass through these seduction sites and most of them haven't learned or did sh!t so it doesn't matter, and also since everyone now comes up with the own material. To a certain extent it can hurt the noobs since certain routines can found out by the girl. (If you have a strong frame you could act like you don't know wtf she is talking bout.) I find it a advantage anyway since now its hardier for the new guys its more girls for the other guys who already are decent. But either way men have been getting laid way before these sites began popping up so yep just keep on learning you don't have to be afraid of anything.
 

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Distant light,

I agree number closes are by no means a success!!! I have a friend who is great with negs. To top it off he is funny as hell. But he's also hairy,short and has paper lips. He gets girls phone numbers because they are "comfortable" with him.On any given night he's seeing a new girl. But he rarely closes. yes,he;s confident. But he has one thing missing. No matter how hard he tries, he does not get the women physically attracted to him. So though his perectange of getting girls phone numbers is the highest I've seen. He makes them laugh,and even his negs make them laugh. But that ain't getting him laid. To me getting laid is the success.

A guy who gets 4 phone numbers out of 10,sleeps with 3 is far more successful in my eyes than one who gets 8 numbers out of 10, but sleeps with 2.

Distant Light,You're a pretty smart guy. guy who said he did'nt use canned lines.

Upsidedown as for the fact all guys are not rich. You're right. They're not. But I said cool carreer and good clothes,confidence,decent looks and a decent voice help a good deal more than canned lines. the more money you have,the less of the others you need. So ugly guys ith cash can easily pick up chicks.Ugly guys with no cash and a going nowhere carreer have a much tougher time no matter how much game he may think he has.
If you have no money, you need game but also decent looks, nice body ect. In other words something else besides just "game". Especially as you get older.

The guy on Primetime who was taking the class with Mystery was the sort of guy who should'nt have had trouble picking up chicks. He had decent clothes,said he was successful, but the second he opened his mouth it was obvious no class can help but voice classes. He sounded totally gay and had a sort of feminine voice. He can use "game" all he wants. Till he changes his horrible girly pitch, he'll keep picking up old grandma's like his new girl. YUCK!!!
 

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he should'nt have to 'change' anything.. something like voice tone-yes,but not the characteristics of it's tone-say masculine or feminine.I'd rather meet someone who was genuine -even with feminine characteristics then a feminine guy that 'acted' tough or had to learn how to become that way.
The one's that are comfortable in their own skin are the most attractive people in the world..
 

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Organized, look at it from our point of view.So a woman who'se voice has a masculine charecteristic is alright? Look there are things people should change in order to be more attractive to the opposite sex. To say comfort in your own skin is all you need is denial.

I can look at a chick complaining she can't get dates and in 2 seconds tell her why.
It can be her hairstyle is "masculine" voice "masculine" walk "masculine" clothing style "masculine". Stuff like that is a turn-off. But her friends will probably tell her confidence is all she needs and she should'nd change herself cause girls lie to each other like that.

Same way a guy with feminine walk, voice,hairstyle,fem is a turn-off. Usually, a woman who is unattractive to the opposite sex has taken on 1 or more"masculine" tendencies. We want to be able to say confidence is all it takes, but physical attraction is just as important. If women fall in love with their ears then it is even more crutial for a man to have a masculine but pleasent tone.
I'm a guy and had a hard time listening to the guy on "Primetime" . All I kept thinking was "girlie-man".
 

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ricorico said:
Organized, look at it from our point of view.So a woman who'se voice has a masculine charecteristic is alright? Look there are things people should change in order to be more attractive to the opposite sex. To say comfort in your own skin is all you need is denial...a guy with feminine walk, voice,hairstyle,fem is a turn-off.
Listen to Strauss and Mystery, they have feminine demeanors. Strauss's girlfriend also came off as somewhat masculine to me, and she also has a masculine career, so that was an interesting observation on your part.

That's not really what is holding that guy back. He's just awkward and lacks social skills. He needs to work on his overall personality. Really what he needs to do is talk to people. Not women he's trying to pick up, just normal everyday people. He should strike up conversations everywhere. He comes off as awkward and too intense. The canned lines they had him using were not so good. If somebody asked me when I flossed, I'd think he or she was an idiot.
 

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ricorico said:
Organized, look at it from our point of view.So a woman who'se voice has a masculine charecteristic is alright? Look there are things people should change in order to be more attractive to the opposite sex. To say comfort in your own skin is all you need is denial.

I can look at a chick complaining she can't get dates and in 2 seconds tell her why.
It can be her hairstyle is "masculine" voice "masculine" walk "masculine" clothing style "masculine". Stuff like that is a turn-off. But her friends will probably tell her confidence is all she needs and she should'nd change herself cause girls lie to each other like that.

Same way a guy with feminine walk, voice,hairstyle,fem is a turn-off. Usually, a woman who is unattractive to the opposite sex has taken on 1 or more"masculine" tendencies. We want to be able to say confidence is all it takes, but physical attraction is just as important. If women fall in love with their ears then it is even more crutial for a man to have a masculine but pleasent tone.
I'm a guy and had a hard time listening to the guy on "Primetime" . All I kept thinking was "girlie-man".

you must meet some really butch girls then..:crackup: but seriously, there are PLENTLY of 'tough girls' out there that can take care of themselves and are anything but girly girls and they are pretty masculine in a sense..but they are all woman.It dosen't mean they are any less attractive..maybe those types of girls are just too intense for you?? maybe? they tend to be very opinionated and say whats on their mind..in other words..a real biotch..as snoop dog would put it.it takes someone with balls to handle them...

as for the feminine thing..ummm..i don't know if you haven't noticed this..but Styles and Mystery aren't exactly the most macho guys in the wolf pack.As a matter of fact- i am still convinced that Styles is a homo or at least bi..call me judgemental :D But if you are a certain way ,learn how to accept it and change for your own personal reasons..NOT because society or some PUA guru says so..at the end of the day, no one really cares..except you..

okay enough cheeze for now :eek:
 

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godsgifttowomen said:
Mystery isn't doin' a reality show w/ MTV. It was an April Fool's joke. Yes Mystery has a gf. Maybe I see things you guys don't? ;)


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Sorry to burst your bubble but there's a new PUA reality show with Mystery by VH1 in the works. Along with MM, it's one of the reasons Mystery can live in the US right now, VH1 is providing him with a work visa. I can't trust SoSuave with reliable information anymore - no offense.
 

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Every guy deserves to learn this stuff. Thats his right. Everyone wants pvssy and its up to him to learn how to acquire it. I was never a fan of canned material anyway or canned lines BUT i do feel that Mr Strauss has put his dyck in all of our ass's. A few on this board have come across Hb's asking them if "they are pick up artists" or "if they have read the game". Thats because Mr Strauss has blown the lid off this whole thing and its out there now becomming more main stream as we speak.

Women are on the defensive a little now and are warning each other about the so called methods of PUA's. Also, captain save a hoes are out doing the same thing, warning women about thi shyt.

take a look here, its an article for a student magazine here in england that is warning female students to be aware of PUA tricks.

http://www.student-direct.co.uk/?p=1959


Thanks Mr Strauss:rolleyes:
 

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lol how do you guys know they get results?If it's by videos then the guys from Bangbus and 8th street latinas get results.

lmao.

I would never pay for game cuz I'm not a john.
 

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Tha Realnezz said:
lol how do you guys know they get results?If it's by videos then the guys from Bangbus and 8th street latinas get results.

lmao.

I would never pay for game cuz I'm not a john.
You're not a John, you're the village idiot. Enjoying your stay?
 
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